So I've been seeing a lot of people talking about how "Long" some gens are to detract or bolster whatever their opinion is. It got me wondering, at what point do you consider yourself done with a pokemon game. for me it'd be

>finished the main story and any epilogue
>finish all one off post game battles and side quests
>explore any optional routes and areas
>Catch every legendary or special pokemon
>Collect every TM
>Breed and train at least one "competetive team"
>finish at least one run of any battle towers/frontier

What does /vp/ think constitutes finishing a game?