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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 23:16:49 No.45662388 View View Reply Original Report

Chad expanded edition

New/Returning Player?
>https://pastebin.com/ZsYKRnPK (getting started)
>https://imgur.com/a/z4NoDRn (deckbuilding guide)

>Public trade is like the GTS, if you want proper results, put up your own offers.
>Don't open tradables packs unless it's from giveaways (and POST PULLS)

What theme deck should I buy? (Current as of VIV)
>Groudon/Kyogre for winrates, Necrozma for staples. Dragonite and Rillaboom are good too.

Resources
>http://limitlesstcg.com/tournaments (meta decklists)
>https://pastebin.com/svqYihpM (budget deck pastebin) (outdated)
>https://pastebin.com/kM7ucNV8 (trading tips pastebin)
>https://www.ptcgoguide.com (card values)
>https://www.ptcgoprices.com (live card values)
>https://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/74281-ptcgo-price-guide-wip-added-all-rebel-clash-vs-fas-and-sr-trainers (price guide)

Previous thread: >>45605837

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 23:45:01 No.45662587 Report

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Playing though PTCG on GBA right now, and it's somewhat cute how simplistic the game was back in the day.

On the other, it's also notable how the idea that a "FFFC" cost was deemed appropriate and it still is today. Of course back then, the answer was logically "these cards were bad, any cost above 2 is bad", nowadays it's "print Welder and pretend the cost doesn't exist". I wish we could go back away from the 3-prize cancer, but some problems are inherited since Base Set.

Blogpost over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 23:47:01 No.45662602 Report

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Time to update all the old meme decks lol, lets see..

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 23:53:04 No.45662637 Report

Quoted By: >>45662653 >>45663178

Any interest in just making a /vp/ set?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 23:55:11 No.45662648 Report

Quoted By: >>45663636

Any way to make this piece of shit work in standard? Telescopic Sight and Zigzagoons gives me hope

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 23:56:12 No.45662653 Report

Quoted By: >>45662662 >>45662708 >>45663094

>>45662637
I’ve dumped a lot of card OC of mine over the threads. It’d be fun if a /vp/ set was made with card art too

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 23:58:14 No.45662662 Report

Quoted By: >>45663094 >>45670057

>>45662653
/vp/ made a set*

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 00:04:48 No.45662708 Report

Quoted By: >>45662954 >>45663178

>>45662653
I'd be cool to have a /vp/ border too, as PTCG isn't consistent with their borders anyway and it'd avoid the inevitable "is base set border superior" debate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 00:42:48 No.45662954 Report

Quoted By: >>45663178 >>45665145

>>45662708
So how would us anons go about this task I wonder. Would the card art be where the shitposts and references are while the set is an actual set? I was thinking for example palkia, dialga, and giratina Vmax would be in the set to reference yawnfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 01:04:37 No.45663094 Report

Quoted By: >>45665145 >>45670057

>>45662653
>>45662662
I'm surprised that it's been nearly 5 years since the previous attempt (there's probably been more recent ones that I never noticed). The dropbox link for the cards is dead but some of the imgur links survived.
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/24823348/

From what I remember, Lackey isn't that great for pokemon. But I don't think there are better alternatives.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 01:24:06 No.45663178 Report

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>>45662637
>>45662708
>>45662954
Interested, we could use a base card with the /vp/ border and maybe a plan/theme or something, nothing too serious though just a bit of fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 01:33:22 No.45663213 Report

Quoted By: >>45663250 >>45663378 >>45663632 >>45664293

why is everyone playing zacian decks now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 01:40:56 No.45663250 Report

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>>45663213
It’s one of the best cards in the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 02:02:26 No.45663378 Report

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>>45663213
There's a zacian V battle deck that came out last month and everyone in the game got a free zacian V a few days ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 02:15:03 No.45663456 Report

Quoted By: >>45663528 >>45663697 >>45663727

what's a good prize to pay for Crobat V in PTCGO? Someone was asking for 28 Vivid Voltage packs before but I don't see any other trades atm. idk if the server is being slow or is there really not any other Crobat V trades on atm.

What's the lowest prize I could try to buy it for? 24 Vivid Voltage packs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 02:28:00 No.45663528 Report

Quoted By: >>45663697

>>45663456
Crobat is too popular to lowball, you'll have to at least match whatever everyone else is paying. Try 26+an okayish trainer card.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 02:34:19 No.45663567 Report

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I opened a rainbow Prof's Research, is that worth a lot in the trade market? What can I get for it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 02:35:50 No.45663579 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfXpVXFSDbU
WTF guys, this isn't Zoroark GX???

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 02:38:19 No.45663597 Report

Quoted By: >>45663671

anyone remember me crying about the client glitching out and accepting random 3 Jirachis for my Dedenne trade yesterday? Someone here suggested me to send a ticket and I did and boom, just 24 hours later I got my Dedenne back + now I have extra 3 Jirachis too!!!! So happy now, thank you whoever recommended sending a ticket!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 02:43:41 No.45663632 Report

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>>45663213
cards busted and now everyone can get it easily because of the battle deck and tin.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 02:44:20 No.45663636 Report

Quoted By: >>45667065

>>45662648
I fucking love Black and White and I have been playing pic related. Reshikrom is not the best deck and never will be but this is what I have been playing in standard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 02:49:10 No.45663671 Report

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>>45663597
Glad it worked out anon

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 02:52:21 No.45663697 Report

Quoted By: >>45663728

>>45663456
>>45663528
I should add that while it's hard to lowball popular cards with packs, you can get them a bit cheaper by trading other cards. It doesn't work often though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 02:56:09 No.45663727 Report

Quoted By: >>45663739

>>45663456
Wait till a new set drops. I got two crobat V’s for 13 VIV when the set dropped on ptcgo

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 02:56:12 No.45663728 Report

Quoted By: >>45663777

>>45663697
true, also you can do this, give more packs but part of them are older so their value isn't as good as people think, according to top cut these packs were worth 25.95 packs hehe, this went almost instantly so think I could have gotten it a bit cheaper but its aight, its easy to make packs with trades anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 02:58:34 No.45663739 Report

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>>45663727
too late but when does the new set drop/where can I get best info on this kind of stuff?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 03:04:31 No.45663777 Report

Quoted By: >>45668190

>>45663728
I think SSH and DAA are 1:1 with VIV right now, so you paid normal price for the bat.

>its easy to make packs with trades anyway
No, it's serious business and takes a lot of brains to do. It's not as simple as buying crobat at the current max price, then selling it for 5 packs above that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 03:10:06 No.45663825 Report

Quoted By: >>45663889 >>45663925

friends n I spent a lot of money on cards so we have a bunch of online codes
are they useful? should i keep em?
if not ill def give to you guys

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 03:18:22 No.45663889 Report

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>>45663825
>are they useful?
Only in the online game.

>should i keep em?
If you want to play the online game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 03:24:28 No.45663925 Report

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>>45663825
they are useful if you play the online game. go to the gift box in the client and enter the codes. you will get a pack that matches the code to use in the online game.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 03:39:53 No.45664010 Report

Quoted By: >>45664070 >>45664080 >>45664098 >>45664153

here ya go boiz
first come first serve
good luck and have fun
only like the art on the pokemon cards themselves

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 03:49:10 No.45664070 Report

Quoted By: >>45664080 >>45664211

>>45664010
you guys should at least post what you get from the packs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 03:50:38 No.45664080 Report

Quoted By: >>45664211

>>45664010
someone redeemed already, guys if you redeem at least let other people know.

>>45664070
also this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 03:54:06 No.45664098 Report

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>>45664010
I got three of the champions path ones, but besides one Marnie I didn't get anything worth. But thank you based code anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 03:55:42 No.45664115 Report

Quoted By: >>45664123 >>45664211

>>45662388
>Don't open tradables packs unless it's from giveaways (and POST PULLS)
>(and POST PULLS)
>POST PULLS
What the FUCK guys!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 03:58:31 No.45664123 Report

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>>45664115
>Anon dumps 30+ codes
WTF, why can't anons try all 35 codes, open the packs and screenshot them all instantly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 04:00:21 No.45664129 Report

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I did not give you permission to speak to me

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 04:05:33 No.45664153 Report

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>>45664010
Thanks. CPA had a bunch of flashy cards. And VIV had one card that wasn't worthless.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 04:14:42 No.45664211 Report

Quoted By: >>45664224

>>45664070
>>45664080
>>45664115
got a cool jirachi out of the 10 vivid packs irl
one of my friends pulled a gardevoir v with his 18 champion packs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 04:16:33 No.45664224 Report

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>>45664211
berry nice, Jirachi is prolly worth 10 packs not only in PTCGO but IRL too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 04:27:41 No.45664293 Report

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>>45663213
It's zorork on steroids

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 04:35:28 No.45664333 Report

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God I despise standard so much. Has there ever been a standard this bad in years? Either break the game with adp, decide the game on coinflips or just OHKO everything. Tag teams were a mistake and this game is dead.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 04:36:21 No.45664335 Report

Quoted By: >>45664367 >>45664368 >>45664372 >>45664414 >>45664452

I don't know crap about the current meta, especially Expanded but I just converted my old Lapras V Max deck from beginning of the year into an Expanded SUPER TURBO Lapras build and holy shit it was going fast.
Pic related turn-1 going 2nd and turn 2 was able to hit for over 300 GG. Posting list on next reply.

Also expanded pros tell me which decks I will have trouble against? I faced Decidueye before and slapped in one Stealthy hood, doesn't that prevent Decidueyes ability from stopping me from attacking?

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 04:42:53 No.45664367 Report

Quoted By: >>45664395 >>45664452

>>45664335
Here is the list, I just got the idea of using Crasher Wave with lots of energies now that we have the bucket, with Aqua patch and also since we have turbo patch it seemed even more interesting to try Lapras without Frosmoth.

Basically discard energy with Quick Ball, Dedenne and Crasher Wave and then use patches and GG, especially easy with Crasher Wave, you can just search any 2 cards you need, maybe 1 patch and Quick Ball into Crobat/Dedenne and search for more cards etc. so damn smooth, but this might just be me using Crobat finally and feeling the speed, after playing without one for a while. Regardless definitely seemed like a decent deck at least, like the good old Turbo Dark/Mega Turbo from back in the days (Standard) lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 04:43:02 No.45664368 Report

Quoted By: >>45664414

>>45664335
>Also expanded pros tell me which decks I will have trouble against?
Pikarom
1-prizers that can just gust around the lapras
1-prizers that just punch through the lapras
ADPZ
Most expanded decks in general

>I faced Decidueye before and slapped in one Stealthy hood, doesn't that prevent Decidueyes ability from stopping me from attacking?
No it doesn't. You'll want to play an EX or non-Gx/non-V pokemon to get around that. I can't remember which ones are good and not weak to grass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 04:44:33 No.45664372 Report

Quoted By: >>45664477

>>45664335
Hood does not stop deci but there's good basic attackers to get around with, Watch out for baby necrozma,tinachomp, eggrow especially. Adp gets crushed by ranger but mewbox (fates collide) and mewthree is pretty strong.

Hood DOES stop burning shadows vileplume but good luck doing that under item lock. In general expanded is one of my faves cus every deck has consistency and it doesnt really have a tier 0 deck like adp in standard. There's a lot of creativity and Id say mess around a lot and sea what you can do.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 04:50:47 No.45664395 Report

Quoted By: >>45664477

>>45664367
Why not moth? In expanded, you want to abuse a VMax's bulk with Acerola. Then Frosmoth can put all that energy back into play immediately.
I get that Acerola is useless against things with ability lock or that can ohko, but there is enough decks that won't do that.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 04:54:02 No.45664414 Report

Quoted By: >>45664477

>>45664335
>>45664368
I found your anti-decidueye card. Completely useless against all the older walling pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 04:59:05 No.45664452 Report

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>>45664335
>>45664367
If you wanna go turbo and still tank, perhaps play archiestoise but with super scoop ups and max potions + tons of energy retrieval.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 05:04:10 No.45664477 Report

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>>45664395
Was just interested in trying a turbo build now that there was new tools since I last played. And you say that but have you seen this kind of list in Expanded yet?

>>45664414
Thanks dude, that looks pretty decent, I will try it out!

>>45664372
>In general expanded is one of my faves cus every deck has consistency and it doesnt really have a tier 0 deck like adp in standard. There's a lot of creativity and Id say mess around a lot and sea what you can do.
Yeah seems more interesting than Standard atm. too bad the tournaments are Standard only atm. (tournaments like the Team Challenge)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 05:59:51 No.45664756 Report

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Zacian's code still works. I don't if thats good or bad, but I'll take it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 06:15:19 No.45664803 Report

Quoted By: >>45664818

Is everyone in standard playing Zacian with Galarian Perrserker or has my ELO just dropped a ton?

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 06:19:33 No.45664818 Report

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I assume this dugtrio's biggest issue would be getting energy into the discard pile. Has it ever done well?
>Starmies can recover 8 energy per turn
>2 energy from mount coronet
>superior energy retrieval can pull even more on turns you need it

>>45664803
The Zacian league deck includes it. Your elo is probably a bit low, or league deck players are doing well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 07:48:32 No.45665085 Report

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>>45662388
I'm new to the game and here's my first non theme deck I made, what are some things I should add/remove to improve it?

##Pokémon - 15

* 1 Audino UNM 177
* 1 Butterfree V DAA 1
* 2 Gossifleur SSH 20
* 2 Grookey SSH 11
* 1 Rowlet & Alolan Exeggutor-GX UNM 1
* 1 Shaymin {*} TEU 10
* 1 Weedle VIV 1
* 2 Eldegoss SSH 21
* 1 Thwackey SSH 12
* 1 Thwackey SSH 13
* 2 Rillaboom SSH 14

##Trainer Cards - 31

* 3 Crushing Hammer EPO 92
* 2 Pokémon Communication TEU 152
* 2 Pokégear 3.0 SSH 174
* 1 Ordinary Rod SSH 171
* 2 Poké Kid SSH 173
* 1 Roller Skater CEC 203
* 1 Bird Keeper DAA 159
* 1 Quick Ball SSH 179
* 2 Pokémon Center Lady FLF 93
* 1 Boss's Orders RCL 189
* 2 Poké Ball KSS 35
* 1 Brock's Grit TEU 135
* 2 Hop SSH 165
* 3 Great Ball SSH 164
* 1 Energy Switch BLW 94
* 2 Switch BLW 104
* 2 Energy Search BLW 93
* 2 Energy Retrieval BLW 92

##Energy - 14

* 2 Capture Energy RCL 171
* 12 Grass Energy XYEnergy 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 08:05:09 No.45665126 Report

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Does everyone see that guy in the public trades that wants a Crobat V for a Next Destinies Raichu?
Is that Raichu special in any way?

!BGYTiNJAFA

!BGYTiNJAFA Fri 11 Dec 2020 08:10:53 No.45665145 Report

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>>45662954
I think it'd be fun to reference some general /vp/ memes, but not go completely overboard as to make the cards unplayable. For me it's playability first, then fun & interesting designs, then memes.
>>45663094
Wouldn't it be fine to just have a .PSD file or something, so just the text and the art need to be filled in and exported to PNG? If an original border is made, that's all it takes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 08:30:02 No.45665204 Report

Quoted By: >>45665222 >>45666131

>tfw big time poketubers see some smaller tuber create a series that they can also market off from, and make a video 2 days later on the same series
God I fucking hate the zoomer...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 08:34:12 No.45665222 Report

Quoted By: >>45665233

>>45665204
Is this about the Pokebou chick doing a series about how to actually play the tcg?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 08:39:14 No.45665233 Report

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>>45665222
Fucking who?
No. Mellow Magikarp came out with a series of getting into expanded. 2 days later fucking zoomer outta nowhere makes a fucking expanded vid. I won't be consuming this...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 08:58:05 No.45665277 Report

Quoted By: >>45665281 >>45665303 >>45668111

So I've been playing a lot of standard to get a feel for the game, but now I'd like to start building my own deck for standard. But basically it'll take forever to build a deck that can compete somewhat with others cause I need to get all the staples first, right?

I also collect cards and have a lot of codes left, so what would be the best way forward here to get the cards I need?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 08:59:22 No.45665281 Report

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>>45665277
*playing a lot of theme decks. sorry for the type

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 09:05:40 No.45665303 Report

Quoted By: >>45665341 >>45667144 >>45667160

>>45665277
Don't play Standard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 09:19:47 No.45665341 Report

Quoted By: >>45668111

>>45665303
What should I play? Extended or Unlimited? I thought Standard might be a good starting point.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 13:32:41 No.45666099 Report

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Have some codes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 13:38:09 No.45666131 Report

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>>45665204
>he watches poketubers
Pathetic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 13:38:30 No.45666134 Report

Quoted By: >>45666207

I stopped playing the game right before Sun/Moon and I feel like playing again. What packs are good to open right now? Or is it better to wait for 2021 rotation?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 13:50:24 No.45666207 Report

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>>45666134
Probably the base sword and shield or cosmic eclipse

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 15:41:27 No.45666758 Report

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What a cool little pre-release style tournament in Japan, I wonder how long it will take for us to be able to play pre-releases again..Maybe people could just use webcam and play from home lol..
https://youtu.be/asQYHgy1QtY

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 16:49:17 No.45667065 Report

Quoted By: >>45667389

>>45663636
How's it working out for you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 17:12:51 No.45667144 Report

Quoted By: >>45667168

>>45665303
B-But Pedro told me MewMew is a good deck..

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 17:15:18 No.45667160 Report

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>>45665303
>ADP is not dominating the game
Yeah, okay

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 17:16:58 No.45667168 Report

Quoted By: >>45667182 >>45667558

>Will Checkmate
What is this guy thinking?
It's hard enough getting jirachi prism into the prizes, how the hell do you get the greedy dice there too?

>>45667144
Lightning Mew3? That was a deck that only he and Tord played. 2 players out of 900 weren't going to have a great chance of reaching week 2 or influencing the graph.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 17:20:17 No.45667182 Report

Quoted By: >>45667214

>>45667168
Fire7Water Mew3, he recently made 2 or 3 videos about it (wasn't the nomenclature for all Mewtwo & Mew GX decks MewMew?).

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 17:25:37 No.45667214 Report

Quoted By: >>45667220 >>45667389 >>45668288

>Coalossal is this week's most popular expanded deck because last week Pikarom was most popular
What will it be next week? Dragapult?

>>45667182
"Week 1" of the player's cup was 5 weeks ago. Pikarom was one of the most hyped decks going into that. Wet Mew3 was always a meme deck, and Fire Mew3 had a rough matchup against Pikarom (I call it Mew3, but MewMew is fine). We will get to see new VIV decks during the top 16 finals of the player's cup.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 17:28:05 No.45667220 Report

Quoted By: >>45667389

>>45667214
Rowleggs with pic rel as an attacker

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 18:04:15 No.45667389 Report

Quoted By: >>45667430

>>45667220
> Rowlegg being relevant in standard
> Stage 2 attacker
Doubt

>>45667214
>What will it be next week?
Lucametal control but with twist that Giovanni's Exile will seen as a one-off in a few decks

>>45667065
It's alright. I mean, I have beaten Zacian ADP on more than on occassion but it is really hit or miss, as there is not control piece to the deck. Unless you booty blast the opponent fast, they can do what they want. best part of the second is that is can reliably go second and perform better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 18:12:53 No.45667430 Report

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>>45667389
I’m talking about expanded
>vileplume shuts off max potion and vs seeker
>sceptile hits for weakness and discards stone/strong and even heals
>play mr mime to block az and acerola

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 18:16:51 No.45667451 Report

Quoted By: >>45667459 >>45667461

What happened to the physical collectors thread? I have a question for them, but I can't find it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 18:17:54 No.45667459 Report

Quoted By: >>45667473

>>45667451
>>45657062

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 18:18:16 No.45667461 Report

Quoted By: >>45667473

>>45667451
It's the FA Wailord EX

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 18:21:52 No.45667473 Report

Quoted By:

>>45667459
>>45667461
Thanks, I don't know why Ctrl + F didn't show it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 18:26:46 No.45667498 Report

Quoted By: >>45668531

Theme is literally nothing but two Charizard decks over and over
I seriously fucking hate Charizard

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 18:37:05 No.45667558 Report

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>>45667168
Kabutops vs recycle energy Exeggutor? Which supporter lock is easier to maintain? The only advantage I see for kabutops is the ability to use Steven's resolve.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 19:11:41 No.45667721 Report

Quoted By: >>45667738 >>45667751

>1 Lightning Mew3
>5 Pikarom
>1 Blacephalon
>2 Lucmetal
>1 Eternatus
>1 Centiskorch
>5 ADPZ
No VIV based decks, only some techs.

playerscup2global for a locked FA research

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 19:14:06 No.45667738 Report

Quoted By:

>>45667721
This format sucks balls

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 19:15:48 No.45667751 Report

Quoted By: >>45667764

>>45667721
>#justiceforcoochybaby5000 is still playing
shant be watching

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 19:17:07 No.45667764 Report

Quoted By: >>45667771 >>45677136 >>45677155

>>45667751
Good thing they won't have facecams on the players.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 19:18:30 No.45667771 Report

Quoted By:

>>45667764
he always looks like rudolph the red nosed reindeer LMAO

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 19:27:42 No.45667823 Report

Quoted By:

>Seeded the bracket so that ADPZ mirrors will have to be streamed in the later rounds of the winners bracket
Nice.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 19:53:53 No.45668024 Report

Quoted By: >>45668029 >>45672536

>It's just a bunch of old white men in the TCG tournament

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 19:54:49 No.45668029 Report

Quoted By: >>45668057

>>45668024
Yeah the few kids who play this game aren't powergaming meta slaves, they just want to play Charizard and shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 19:59:32 No.45668057 Report

Quoted By:

>>45668029
They also banned all the kids from this tournament. I think the minimum age for masters is 16.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 20:06:08 No.45668111 Report

Quoted By: >>45668190 >>45674404

>>45665341
Standard is more simple and easier to get into, Expanded is more balance atm. but some cards are quite expensive/hard to get for it, so yeah standard might be a better starting point.

>>45665277
>I also collect cards and have a lot of codes left, so what would be the best way forward here to get the cards I need?
Buy them with packs that you get from the codes, pic related is pretty accurate for pack values and then you can search for the cards that you need in the trades and then see the lowest prize and maybe buy it if it seems ok or put up a trade of your own for a bit cheaper.

Source for the pic related, oh and there is also values for some cards here too, prolly not for the newest ones yet though.
https://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/25163-the-top-cut-trading-inc-2-price-guide-not-updated-all-values-on-request/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 20:17:48 No.45668190 Report

Quoted By: >>45674404

>>45668111
>pic related is pretty accurate for pack values
I'm seeing a few extremely outdated prices on that list. >>>>45663777
If I had to make a guess at pack ratios when trying to buy stuff:
>holiday/special sets - varies
>SSH era - all 1.0 right now
>Tagteam era - 0.66-0.75
>XY/SM era - 0.33
>BW era - varies
>HGSS era - no codes, so don't worry about it
>chests - 0.33

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 20:38:00 No.45668288 Report

Quoted By:

>>45667214
>5/8 in top cut is weak to fighting
I think the solution is to play even more coalossal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 20:50:51 No.45668339 Report

Quoted By:

Please don't play Coalossal.
I love PikaRom

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 20:54:14 No.45668355 Report

Quoted By:

This shit again fuck.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 21:01:21 No.45668411 Report

Quoted By: >>45668440 >>45668450 >>45668506 >>45668562 >>45668563 >>45673965 >>45677150

this and hammer are infinitely more cancerous than adpz ever will be but /ptcgo/ isn't ready to have that conversation

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 21:05:07 No.45668440 Report

Quoted By:

>>45668411
run more energies

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 21:06:09 No.45668450 Report

Quoted By:

>>45668411
Annoying but not good.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 21:08:46 No.45668463 Report

Quoted By:

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 21:17:00 No.45668506 Report

Quoted By: >>45668569

>>45668411
>opponent plays any form of energy acceleration
>whoops looks like I lose

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 21:21:23 No.45668531 Report

Quoted By:

>>45667498
Play Kyogre

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 21:27:26 No.45668562 Report

Quoted By:

>>45668411

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 21:27:41 No.45668563 Report

Quoted By: >>45668653

>>45668411
OOOOOOH I'M WELDINGGGG

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 21:28:41 No.45668569 Report

Quoted By:

>>45668506
The only acceleration that matters is Pikarom, but that makes Inteleon terrible if it loses to the most popular deck.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 21:30:16 No.45668577 Report

Quoted By: >>45668607 >>45668608

Here are some vivid voltage codes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 21:35:17 No.45668607 Report

Quoted By:

>>45668577
I was 1 minute too slow to get any packs. I got a grookey and scorbunny that was left behind.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 21:35:17 No.45668608 Report

Quoted By:

>>45668577
thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 21:41:59 No.45668653 Report

Quoted By:

>>45668563
*Woolding

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 21:56:27 No.45668759 Report

Quoted By: >>45668803

Some more misc

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 22:03:09 No.45668803 Report

Quoted By:

>>45668759
someone claimed already, do you have more btw? Asking for if I should try to keep looking to this thread for some as well. Missed both of those and bunch yesterday too lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 22:47:14 No.45669084 Report

Quoted By: >>45669116

three questions
>Is this game super grindy?
>Are all cards available to get?
>Is there first edition versions, limited versions, etc.?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 22:52:20 No.45669116 Report

Quoted By:

>>45669084
Yes to all three questions.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 23:08:11 No.45669243 Report

Quoted By: >>45669275

what's her problem?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 23:11:55 No.45669271 Report

Quoted By: >>45669299

I completely missed Darkness release, should I trade these for packs? I have about 11 holo marnie but the full art is hard to come by

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 23:12:24 No.45669275 Report

Quoted By:

>>45669243

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 23:16:51 No.45669299 Report

Quoted By: >>45669387

>>45669271
trade for packs to open? Trade but rather trade the packs for what you want from the set maybe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 23:34:30 No.45669387 Report

Quoted By: >>45669428

>>45669299
either. I just want a crobat v and have no idea what else I want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 23:41:39 No.45669428 Report

Quoted By:

>>45669387
You might be able to trade a FA Marnie 1 for 1 with a Crobat V. Or Marnie + a few packs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 23:56:30 No.45669527 Report

Quoted By:

>lose because I draw only energy and then flip tails 6 times in a row

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:08:59 No.45669596 Report

Quoted By: >>45669604

no one cares. the algorithms fuck everyone up eventually

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:10:04 No.45669604 Report

Quoted By: >>45669618

>>45669596
Why would they apply an algorithm to a coin flip?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:12:35 No.45669618 Report

Quoted By:

>>45669604
Do you not know how RNG works?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:36:37 No.45669798 Report

Quoted By: >>45669965

Expanded "151 format" with KANTOOO Pokemons only lol, nice.
https://youtu.be/cYXqM-0-pqQ?t=19223

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 01:02:51 No.45669965 Report

Quoted By: >>45670090

>>45669798
Hm wonder what could work there. Maybe exeggcutor/vileplume/pigeotto control? Gyarados (AOR or TEU)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 01:13:34 No.45670057 Report

Quoted By: >>45670213

>>45662662
>>45663094

I still have my work folder from this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 01:16:39 No.45670090 Report

Quoted By:

>>45669965
I'd only need to change 4 cards in my blastoise deck to get 151 compliant. Sounds fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 01:17:55 No.45670104 Report

Quoted By: >>45670259

>Once during your turn, after you flip any coins for an attack of the Pokémon this card is attached to, you may ignore all effects of those coin flips and begin flipping those coins again. (You may only use effects that lets you flip coins, including effects from other cards, once during your turn.)

Someone explain this to me. So it can't be used alongside Glimwood Tangle?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 01:31:27 No.45670213 Report

Quoted By:

>>45670057
and here's an imgur upload of the last/one of the last sets of card images from my LackeyCCG folder, if anyone cares:
https://imgur.com/a/jvfpeZw

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 01:37:07 No.45670259 Report

Quoted By:

>>45670104
No, you can only use either that card effect or Glimwood Tangle once per turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 03:40:06 No.45671034 Report

Quoted By: >>45672468

Tried to preorder some shining fates but missed them all. Anyone know where I might be able to?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 05:27:14 No.45671577 Report

Quoted By: >>45671609

More misc

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 05:38:00 No.45671609 Report

Quoted By: >>45671699

>>45671577
posting pulls in a bit
thanks bro

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 06:02:41 No.45671699 Report

Quoted By: >>45671713

>>45671609
just posting the best ones to avoid spamming

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 06:05:42 No.45671713 Report

Quoted By: >>45671719

>>45671699

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 06:07:11 No.45671719 Report

Quoted By:

>>45671713

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 06:15:56 No.45671744 Report

Quoted By: >>45672971 >>45673033

>Themed for daily challenges
>Opponent is using one of the Charizard decks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 09:43:38 No.45672422 Report

Quoted By:

Code "PLAYERSCUP2GLOBAL" for a full art professor research

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 10:02:25 No.45672468 Report

Quoted By:

>>45671034
You could try to get them from Smyths Toys when they release

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 10:31:16 No.45672536 Report

Quoted By: >>45677143

>>45668024
Why are they in suits lmao it's a fucking kids game
>expecting to be taken seriously when you have a shelf of fucking plushies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 11:54:49 No.45672734 Report

Quoted By:

Why will TCG and VCG be broadcast at the same time, I thought players cup was prerecorded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 13:35:26 No.45672971 Report

Quoted By:

>>45671744
theme is 90% charizard what were you expecting really

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 13:55:28 No.45673033 Report

Quoted By:

>>45671744
When 90% of all the other decks lose to it, why wouldn't you use it?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 17:47:25 No.45673925 Report

Quoted By:

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 17:57:18 No.45673965 Report

Quoted By:

>>45668411

I'll always enjoy a seething ADPZ player.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 17:58:21 No.45673973 Report

Quoted By: >>45674009 >>45679527

Will they ever release a Grass deck that's fun to play and doesn't use fucking Vileplume?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 18:04:52 No.45674009 Report

Quoted By:

>>45673973
There is probably a way to make Accelgor work in expanded. The current grass types are mostly meant for a theme deck power level and are okay for new players.

There's also Orbeetle Vmax in standard which is okay.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 18:24:55 No.45674122 Report

Quoted By: >>45674298

BAN IT

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 18:27:25 No.45674145 Report

Quoted By: >>45674298

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 18:37:03 No.45674204 Report

Quoted By:

By Allah, there is no greater pleasure in this world than winning a coinflip and shattering some faggot's asshole with Crushing Hammer/Pokemon Catcher

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 18:53:22 No.45674298 Report

Quoted By:

>>45674145
>>45674122
If there is a card that zacian, pikarom or reshizard use, it ain't getting banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 18:56:30 No.45674315 Report

Quoted By:

They should reprint plumeria

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 19:12:46 No.45674404 Report

Quoted By: >>45674422 >>45674442

>>45668190
>>45668111
Is it even worth saving the lower value packs like SM and Steam Siege?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 19:16:54 No.45674422 Report

Quoted By: >>45674442

>>45674404
yes you can still trade them for basic stuff that you need, rather than gambling and trying to win the rarest things in those sets that might be worth nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 19:20:11 No.45674442 Report

Quoted By:

>>45674404
Yeah. You can always trade up about equally for more valuable packs like Cosmic Eclipse or Team Up which have a lot of sought after cards in them. And like >>45674422 says, they're usually good enough for specific trades of less played cards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 19:28:20 No.45674504 Report

Quoted By:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UehGGij2W7k
Players Cup Finals

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 19:37:51 No.45674574 Report

Quoted By: >>45675993

Will all the GX (and well all pre-SWSH cards) rotate out in the next rotation? And is there a date for the next rotation yet and if not, is it likely in August 2021?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 19:44:51 No.45674625 Report

Quoted By: >>45674668

>goes on the players cup stream
>ADPZ vs Pikarom
>close window

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 19:48:06 No.45674646 Report

Quoted By: >>45674668

>well let's see what these players are bringing!
>...they're actually bringing... the same archetype
>they're both playing pikachu and zekrom, and they're both playing hammers as well
holy shit this is comedy gold

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 19:50:21 No.45674668 Report

Quoted By:

>>45674625
>>45674646
>people that want to win a championship are playing good cards
What a shock!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 20:18:01 No.45674877 Report

Quoted By: >>45674890

guys pikarom seems really fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 20:19:14 No.45674890 Report

Quoted By:

>>45674877
Standard decks are not fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 20:24:53 No.45674929 Report

Quoted By:

>blowns

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 20:30:43 No.45674974 Report

Quoted By: >>45674997

man first I though you could use this with Oranguru, but nah it had to be drawn at the beginning of the TURN, shit. Or well you can use it with Oranguru but it will only help at the beginning of next turn and even then sometimes your opponent will use Marnie so hell naw...

Tried to use Nuggets with Oranguru + Rotom Phone (Look top 5 cards of your deck and choose 1 to put on top and shuffle the others), at least the latter works quite fine, wouldn't be surprised to see it see some usage at some point.

Have you guys tried this stuff with something and/or do you have some other " draw engines" like this?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 20:34:34 No.45674997 Report

Quoted By:

>>45674974
>Oranguru but it will only help at the beginning of next turn and even then sometimes your opponent will use Marnie so hell naw
Play mind games and dare your opponent to marnie your 0-3 card hand. But most of the time, you'll have a card you want to keep already in hand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 21:11:53 No.45675324 Report

Quoted By: >>45675336 >>45675344 >>45675494

How the fuck do you guys get cards? I don't want to keep playing with theme decks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 21:13:30 No.45675336 Report

Quoted By:

>>45675324
Theme decks are better. Just get the best ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 21:14:18 No.45675344 Report

Quoted By:

>>45675324
Win theme tourneys and trade for the cards you want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 21:37:11 No.45675494 Report

Quoted By:

>>45675324
play theme tourneys for packs, trade packs for cards, very simple. Just don't open the packs and look around for the prizes of things in the market before putting up or accepting a trade, and you are good.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 22:26:08 No.45675833 Report

Quoted By: >>45675838 >>45675846 >>45675876 >>45675912 >>45675914

Finally came up with my first Standard deck. Any advice?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 22:27:15 No.45675838 Report

Quoted By: >>45675855

>>45675833
Immediately I realize I don't have any Escape Boards for Jirachi. I should definitely fix that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 22:28:37 No.45675846 Report

Quoted By: >>45675874

>>45675833
>only 1 boss orders
not gonna make it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 22:29:39 No.45675855 Report

Quoted By:

>>45675838
Never mind. I forgot Escape Board isn't in Standard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 22:32:27 No.45675874 Report

Quoted By: >>45677055

>>45675846
I don't have any other copies. So you have a point there. What would you swap out if I did, though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 22:32:29 No.45675876 Report

Quoted By: >>45675885

>>45675833
Did you try to get the free Zacian from the code to get a second?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 22:33:29 No.45675885 Report

Quoted By:

>>45675876
That's the one I'm using. I'm budget decking as hard as I can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 22:37:11 No.45675912 Report

Quoted By: >>45675951

>>45675833
It's bad. The bisharp line doesn't work well since it competes for bench space that you want to use for scizor/zacian.
>Replace the bug catcher + pokekid with 4 copies of research
>Replace bisharp with something else. Maybe go all in with the basic duraludon, zacian, and zamazenta from the theme deck.
>Cut aerodactyl, cherish ball, red+blue, fossil, fighting/aurora energies
>Cut molayne+ oleana. Probably replace them with the sonias you got from the theme deck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 22:37:33 No.45675914 Report

Quoted By: >>45675951 >>45682266

>>45675833
What's your IGN?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 22:43:39 No.45675951 Report

Quoted By: >>45675977

>>45675912
I really like the pivot Aerodactyl can offer but I suppose you do need a lot of deck space just to make it work. Double for Bisharp. I just like cards that get stronger with other similar cards.
Agreed on the Auroras. I definitely could have just used more Metal. Thanks for the advice, anyhow.
>>45675914
I don't know what this means.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 22:45:39 No.45675966 Report

Quoted By:

nigga, are you fucking for real? lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 22:48:02 No.45675977 Report

Quoted By: >>45676037

>>45675951
If you need a pivot, stick a u-turn board on audino or pidgeotto. In games where zacian gets powered up, you'll need cards like switch or birdkeeper to move it to the bench to let it attack multiple turns in a row.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 22:50:01 No.45675993 Report

Quoted By: >>45676032 >>45676038 >>45677161

>>45674574
anyone? (About Rotation)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 22:53:47 No.45676032 Report

Quoted By:

>>45675993
Not positive yet, but it's probably going to bw SWSH onward and in August, yeah.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 22:54:20 No.45676037 Report

Quoted By: >>45682266

>>45675977
Made a quick revision based on all the feedback. I'll need to get some more Boss's Orders, but that's not something I can fix immediately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 22:54:26 No.45676038 Report

Quoted By: >>45676549

>>45675993
Almost certainly in August. Japan rotates later (November last year, January this year), so all fire types and grass types will be shit until January-March 2022.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 22:58:47 No.45676076 Report

Quoted By:

Post the best combos

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 23:09:45 No.45676168 Report

Quoted By: >>45676276 >>45676373 >>45676469 >>45677161

>watch the TCGO Players Cup stream
>commentator Jeremy Jallen
>google him
>@JeremyJallen. Pokemon TCG Commentary. He/Him. Black Lives Matter. My Tweets are my own. Mesa, AZ.

Are TCGcucks really like this

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 23:12:52 No.45676189 Report

Quoted By:

How long would it take to drop my ELO to determine whether Venomoth is actually a good noob deck? I'm pretty sure it still gets destroyed by all 3 league battle decks unless you try to counter them.
>Froslass for Reshizard
>Donphan for Pikarom
>Amoongus for Zacian and hope they cut the switching cards

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 23:23:55 No.45676276 Report

Quoted By:

>>45676168
what's the problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 23:37:45 No.45676373 Report

Quoted By:

>>45676168
>implying the vidyafags are any less pozzed

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 23:50:15 No.45676459 Report

Quoted By: >>45679701

>tfw say hello to everyone I play against and hope they have a good game no matter who wins or loses

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 23:51:32 No.45676469 Report

Quoted By:

>>45676168
Check out Kenny Wisdom's twitter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 00:01:51 No.45676549 Report

Quoted By: >>45676600

>>45676038
>so all fire types and grass types will be shit until January-March 2022.
Why is that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 00:11:47 No.45676600 Report

Quoted By:

>>45676549
Welder, Volcanion, and Eggrow rotate for us but not Japan, so our August+November(+possibly January) sets will assume that those cards exist and balance around them. That's why everything currently has an extra [C] or [L] in its attack cost because of counter gain and thunder mountain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 01:36:21 No.45677055 Report

Quoted By: >>45677073 >>45677154

>>45675874
Paypig for deck builders toolkit codes online, get 2 and you have a full play set of bosses, quick balls, dedennes, and lots of other shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 01:39:42 No.45677073 Report

Quoted By:

>>45677055
Never.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 01:49:25 No.45677136 Report

Quoted By:

>>45667764
FREECOOCHYBABY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 01:50:30 No.45677143 Report

Quoted By: >>45677268

>>45672536
I miss the chad Jwittz and pooka bros

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 01:51:51 No.45677150 Report

Quoted By:

>>45668411
Inteleon? Lmao no adpz is WAY worse. Hammers is only really good cus the prevalence of adpz

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 01:52:23 No.45677154 Report

Quoted By:

>>45677055
not him but damn that seems good at quick glance, been trading a lot lately and it gets me packs but its a lot of work, might as well save some time and just buy a code or 2 of those deck builder toolkits, never even crossed my mind for some reason lol..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 01:52:41 No.45677155 Report

Quoted By: >>45677169

>>45667764
This guy is from my home town. Biggest asshole I've ever met. Some kid asked him for deckbuilding advice during a prerelease and he just gave them a link to some paywall site kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 01:53:17 No.45677161 Report

Quoted By:

>>45675993
Id say SWHS on most likely, but it would be absolutely hilarious if they made it CEC-on

>>45676168
Friendly reminder that jwittz is a chad and based af

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 01:54:28 No.45677169 Report

Quoted By: >>45677303 >>45677463

>>45677155
Zach is pretty infamous yeah, the coochybaby incident exposed more to his general assholery. Also funnily he's a total sjw too because of course

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 02:08:51 No.45677268 Report

Quoted By: >>45677308

>>45677143
I hate what the PTCG community has become. I miss when it was just social rejects who wanted to play Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 02:13:43 No.45677303 Report

Quoted By: >>45677321 >>45677323

>>45677169
I know for a solid fact he only does that SJW shit for pussy. He's a fucking creep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 02:14:41 No.45677308 Report

Quoted By: >>45677334

>>45677268
its still a big part of those desu, you should know this if you play irl, its fucking trannies, furries and all kind of trash and that's not a good thing, I don't like normies but I don't like these lost causes either, luckily there is still bunch of people from the middle so its all good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 02:16:51 No.45677321 Report

Quoted By:

>>45677303
Oh definitely. It's hilarious how he still only managed to shack up with a hambeast though lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 02:17:02 No.45677323 Report

Quoted By:

>>45677303
>tfw all I wanted to see was deck lists to compare with other streamers and test them
>tfw all I got was his fat gf eating food most of the time...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 02:18:06 No.45677334 Report

Quoted By: >>45677405

>>45677308
I guess the problem is that social rejects in 2020 are that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 02:19:36 No.45677341 Report

Quoted By:

I mean bleach isn't gonna help your eyes
https://twitter.com/theloneblown/status/1336352939431124994

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 02:28:48 No.45677405 Report

Quoted By:

>>45677334
true I was actually thinking about that, how for example. the old "tomboys" are turning trans and lesbian nowadays..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 02:32:29 No.45677430 Report

Quoted By: >>45677466

do... do people not realize you can use your opponent's stadium card if it applies to you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 02:36:51 No.45677463 Report

Quoted By: >>45677517

>>45677169
Anyone who tries to be a professional player is cringe. I still remember when he wrote that article that encouraged bending the rules

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 02:36:59 No.45677466 Report

Quoted By:

>>45677430
get good and get out from the low ladder which is full of beginners especially now with the (possible) surge in players thanks to corona.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 02:44:50 No.45677517 Report

Quoted By: >>45677539

>>45677463
Got a link?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 02:49:00 No.45677539 Report

Quoted By: >>45677641

>>45677517
http://www.60cards.net/en/60cc/blog/user/5681/article/1345

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 03:09:23 No.45677641 Report

Quoted By:

>>45677539
Lol what a slimy fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 03:37:01 No.45677805 Report

Quoted By: >>45677846 >>45677886

If I play this in paper will anyone complain if I use Professor Juniper instead of Prof's Research? Same card but without an old woman on it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 03:44:02 No.45677846 Report

Quoted By: >>45677922

>>45677805
I wish we could so I could use full art junipers. Suck's that we cant

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 03:51:52 No.45677886 Report

Quoted By: >>45677922

>>45677805
No one should complain if it’s at your lgs. But I’d avoid it especially if you’re fighting against a turbo autist and they complain that you’re not using standard legal cards

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 03:57:09 No.45677922 Report

Quoted By: >>45677929

>>45677886
>>45677846
I wish they would just errata it so all the discard hand draw 7 prof cards shared the name Prof's Research

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 03:58:35 No.45677929 Report

Quoted By:

>>45677922
It might happen when prof research (juniper) releases in english. We’ll just have to wait till then

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 04:12:36 No.45677997 Report

Quoted By: >>45678032 >>45678036

Nest balls being able to grab Pokemon V's and X with 200+ HP feels completely at odds with the spirit of the card. Why can't they come up with a new category that isn't basic for those kinds of cards? It just feels so retarded that these cards designed/balanced to grab weak pokemon now can call the strongest pokemon in the game, why would you ever even use non-V or non-X pokemon?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 04:20:11 No.45678032 Report

Quoted By: >>45678165

>>45677997
To be fair, GX and EX were the focal point of the game when nest ball was printed so stuff like volcanion EX, yveltal EX, and drampa GX were likely in mind during the creation of this card. But yes grabbing cards like tag teams with it is absurd. Pic related is likely making a return and executes the purpose of grabbing weak mons better than nest ball

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 04:20:46 No.45678036 Report

Quoted By: >>45678075

>>45677997
>Cape of Toughness works with V because it couldn't have been excluded when it was made
When will their sinful hand be stopped?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 04:27:22 No.45678075 Report

Quoted By: >>45678084

>>45678036
>Cape of Toughness works with V because it couldn't have been excluded when it was made
Did you get mixed up with something else like fighting fury belt? Because cape of toughness came out during the SSH era. It's supposed to give regular Vs slightly better odds against tagteams and Vmaxs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 04:28:36 No.45678084 Report

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>>45678075
Yeah that's what I meant. I don't know why my mind went to Cape.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 04:44:27 No.45678155 Report

Quoted By: >>45678205

can anyone come up for any real use for this cool little guy?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 04:46:25 No.45678162 Report

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 04:46:38 No.45678165 Report

Quoted By: >>45678195

>>45678032
God I love level ball, one of my favorite cards for non ex/gx/v decks. Now if they only could give us a silver bangle for V's and gx's with like 40+dmg

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 04:48:07 No.45678174 Report

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 04:50:41 No.45678195 Report

Quoted By:

>>45678165
Give us something like this

>the attacks of the pokemon this card’s attached to do 10 more damage for each GX and V your opponent has in play to your opponent’s active pokemon GX or V

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 04:52:29 No.45678205 Report

Quoted By: >>45678257

>>45678155
Night March/Mad Party support? Or use with Distortion Door Giratina.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 05:03:33 No.45678257 Report

Quoted By:

>>45678205
Yeah standard Mad Party was the only thing I could think of. It runs Twin energy already too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 05:25:19 No.45678345 Report

Quoted By: >>45678434 >>45678733

Are there any (good) specific Night March/ Mad Party counters that can cuck your op's discard and send Pokemon to the Lost Zone instead?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 05:45:13 No.45678434 Report

Quoted By:

>>45678345
Just use karen or oricorio. The best lost zone card is girafarig

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 07:02:29 No.45678730 Report

Quoted By:

The budget moth won one game, time to retire it forever. I think a straight Dewgong telescopic deck would be better in general instead of this deck's 1-1-1 line with 3 energy.

Venomoth-GX is bad since the 200 damage is near impossible to set up and trigger. Maybe Dhelmise V has better chances to set up its 200 damage attack, or Celebi V hitting for 150.

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 17

* 1 Audino UNM 177
* 1 Oranguru SSH 148
* 1 Trubbish VIV 110
* 1 Garbodor RCL 118
* 4 Venonat UNB 10
* 4 Venomoth UNB 11
* 1 Venomoth-GX UNB 12
* 1 Mew UNB 76
* 1 Phione CEC 57
* 1 Seel UNB 44
* 1 Dewgong UNB 45

##Trainer Cards - 33

* 2 Air Balloon SSH 213
* 4 Yell Horn DAA 173
* 2 Koga's Trap UNB 211
* 4 Professor's Research SSH 201
* 1 Telescopic Sight VIV 160
* 4 Quick Ball SSH 216
* 2 Ordinary Rod SSH 215
* 4 Marnie SSH 200
* 3 Bird Keeper DAA 159
* 3 Turffield Stadium RCL 170
* 4 Pokémon Communication HS 98

##Energy - 10

* 3 Triple Acceleration Energy UNB 190
* 4 Grass Energy SMEnergy 10
* 3 Capture Energy DAA 201

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 07:02:54 No.45678733 Report

Quoted By:

>>45678345
Tyranitar GX has an ability that sends everything it ko to the lost zone. His attack also does 30 to every basic pokemon benched.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 07:45:12 No.45678926 Report

Quoted By: >>45679037

Traded my one valuable card (full art Boss's orders) for 36 Vivid Voltage because I want lots of cards to play around with. Opening 36 packs in a row really makes you realize how many pack garbage cards there really is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 08:31:31 No.45679037 Report

Quoted By:

>>45678926
Rule number 1:
>Don't open tradable packs unless it's from giveaways (and POST PULLS)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 11:36:27 No.45679441 Report

Quoted By: >>45679450 >>45679557

Is this deck any good? Does it have any issues that make it less viable than ADP and PikaRom?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 11:36:38 No.45679442 Report

Quoted By: >>45679504

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l9-FJZj3V0
Thoughts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 11:39:32 No.45679450 Report

Quoted By:

>>45679441
It's expensive and harder to get (4 Crobat lol)
It has gigantic attack turns but is poorer defensively
It may be less consistent even before bringing in all the energy acceleration Steel and Electric has
I don't think it's bad it just doesn't have bullshit that puts it way over the top like its peers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 12:20:23 No.45679504 Report

Quoted By: >>45679510

>>45679442
Draft would be so much fun. Or a Hearthstone style arena mode. Theme is ok for avoiding meta cancer but gets stale playing the identical deck all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 12:22:24 No.45679510 Report

Quoted By: >>45679526

>>45679504
Theme could be fixed if they got rid of winstreak bonuses and just gave you more points per win in general, then had some sort of algorithm going where you get more points if you are playing a less popular deck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 12:29:05 No.45679526 Report

Quoted By:

>>45679510
I wish theme was an unlimited format so I could use older decks like the Sylveon GX deck and such.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 12:29:28 No.45679527 Report

Quoted By:

>>45673973
You should like the fact it's the only viable evo with blastoise

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 12:39:14 No.45679557 Report

Quoted By:

>>45679441
it is very strong, fast and consistent but can't run any techs and can't scale damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 12:59:41 No.45679598 Report

Quoted By: >>45679604 >>45679783

Here are concepts:

>Fairy archetype
"Whenever you flip a coin, X happens"
>Darkness archetype
"Whenever tails is flipped, X happens"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 13:01:29 No.45679604 Report

Quoted By:

>>45679598
I want my children's card game fairy free

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 13:28:52 No.45679701 Report

Quoted By:

>>45676459
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 13:44:28 No.45679771 Report

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Just picked up two structures (Kyogre and Groudon), a treasure chest and a Mini tin. Guess I’m starting this back up again but with vastly more casual intentions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 13:46:54 No.45679783 Report

Quoted By: >>45679890

>>45679598
Here's a concept:
No more coin flips.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 14:14:03 No.45679890 Report

Quoted By: >>45679897 >>45679933

>>45679783
Would you prefer if they retired coin flips and started using dice rolls instead?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 14:16:18 No.45679897 Report

Quoted By:

>>45679890
They basically do already since the only die used in PTCG is a d6 which is used for evens/odds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 14:24:08 No.45679933 Report

Quoted By: >>45679943 >>45680181 >>45680222

>>45679890
Dice rolls in TCGs are a dumb mechanic and MTG already proved it in their autofellatio "concept" set.
Granted, coin flips are dumb too, but you got to work with what you have. A mechanic that gives tails a minor upside would work similarly to Magic's landfall, turning something bad and unlucky into an ok event.
>Whenever tails is flipped, draw a card.
>Whenever tails is flipped, put a damage counter on your opponent's Pokemon.
>Whenever tails is flipped, heal 10 damage.
etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 14:27:40 No.45679943 Report

Quoted By: >>45679960 >>45679975

>>45679933
landfall is a disastrous mechanic in mtg

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 14:31:54 No.45679960 Report

Quoted By: >>45679975

>>45679943
>landfall, additional combat
Is the dumbest shit printed in recent memory honestly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 14:36:04 No.45679975 Report

Quoted By: >>45679992 >>45680011

>>45679943
Landfall is one of the most popular mechanics in MTG, and probably one of the best ones for draft.
I assume you're basing your opinion on "there's some broken card that has landfall, therefore the mechanic is bust".
>>45679960
Landfall is 10 years old.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 14:40:59 No.45679992 Report

Quoted By: >>45680094

>>45679975
>Landfall is one of the most popular mechanics in MTG, and probably one of the best ones for draft.
No you fucking idiot. Landfall was shit back then too because it was just "your card is much better when you have a land and shit when you don't play a land" so it encouraged doing nothing and then swinging with all your dudes when you play a land because they all get bonuses, then your ass is wide open except for like 1 creature and you choose to not block so you can swing again
It dumbed things down in draft and that carries over to the constructed modes. A mechanic that is just "do thing, all your cards get bonuses" would be shit in Pokemon because all your cards would suck unless you do thing and then they become less shit and can't compete with just good cards, or because of all the card filtering in Pokemon those cards are just the best thing all the time because it'll be like "when you attach energy your cards ++++++++++++" and people would be abusing that shit every turn.
Magic is a fucking mess, let's not try to just 1:1 port over mechanics from there without understanding them

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 14:44:49 No.45680011 Report

Quoted By:

>>45679975
I’m referring to the Minotaur that gives you an additional combat when you landfall, not as separate points. Apologies if that wasn’t clear

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 15:07:43 No.45680094 Report

Quoted By: >>45680105

>>45679992
I'm sorry you had a miserable time with a mechanic that was generally well-received and understood.
So ignoring your complaint that a subset of aggressive landfall cards played in aggressive decks, the sets were filled with cards that allowed you to trigger landfall on your opponent's turn, increasing complexity and generally making the most unexciting cards into actual play pieces. If you want to complain about mechanics that boil down to "do thing, all your cards get bonuses", then half of Magic would need to be thrown out, because they did these since forever and they will keep doing them. The key to these mechanics is to include minor bonuses that you can micro-manage, not massive make-or-break triggers. I've had a landfall cube for years, played it with multiple groups and nobody complained - probably because I dumped cards like Omnath and Ob Nixilis after the first playtest.
The difference in Pokemon is that you have actual bench space, so there's consideration between ability Pokemon and fighting Pokemon. You cannot just play a hundred elves and have them trigger endlessly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 15:09:27 No.45680105 Report

Quoted By: >>45680138

>>45680094
>If you want to complain about mechanics that boil down to "do thing, all your cards get bonuses", then half of Magic would need to be thrown out, because they did these since forever and they will keep doing them.
Yes, half of the mechanics in Magic are dog shit.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 15:15:34 No.45680138 Report

Quoted By: >>45680147

>>45680105
It's still better than Pokemon's soups of objectively best attackers limited only by Energy access, or amazing mechanics such as "you don't get to play the game".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 15:18:08 No.45680147 Report

Quoted By: >>45680159

>>45680138
You don't get to play the game in Magic now either so what's your point? My point is that Landfall would be a shitty mechanic in Pokemon because it would lead to cards that are shittier than normal unless you equip an energy to them in the active slot in which case they become better or even broken with acceleration and then shit on other cards, or they're just shit and become normal with energy and good with acceleration which makes them good in a limited and narrow capacity or just shitty.
We already have cards that get better when you smack a lot of energy on them anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 15:20:36 No.45680159 Report

Quoted By: >>45680181

>>45680147
>My point is that Landfall would be a shitty mechanic in Pokemon
Nobody said Landfall should appear in Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 15:23:51 No.45680181 Report

Quoted By: >>45680222

>>45680159
(You) said, here >>45679933
>A mechanic that gives tails a minor upside would work similarly to Magic's landfall
Only your example was actually just coinflipping only you win no matter what because you get heads and X happens or get tails and Y happens so it's really just a flip within a flip where you can't lose, thereby making these cards straight up better than most other cards
I don't think you really thought this through because your solution to people disliking coinflips, is to make some cards with even stronger coinflips

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 15:34:50 No.45680222 Report

Quoted By: >>45680228

>>45680181
>(You) said, here >>45679933
>except you didn't say it
Cool.
>actually just coinflipping only you win no matter what
Yes. Instead of having a ridiculously positive or ridiculously negative outcomes, you have two positive outcomes, it's just random which one happens.
>thereby making these cards straight up better than most other cards
How? These cards would be easy to balance, unlike shit like Hammers or confusion that can make or break games. People only play coinflips when the upside is ridiculous, or irrelevant to the main effect. If you don't want to axe coinflips completely, but you want them to be balanced, then encouraging people to play balanced coinflips makes them more fun.
>your solution to people disliking coinflips, is to make some cards with even stronger coinflips
Literally the opposite, it's to make bad coinflips into playable coinflips.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 15:36:30 No.45680228 Report

Quoted By: >>45680250

>>45680222
People don't like coinflips because it's random.
You would just add in MORE random because you still have coinflips, but then you have a coinflip within the coinflip, and you still get the thing you wanted or you get something else so now there's actually less risk because the flipper always comes out ahead but now the flippee is doubly angry because the flipper wagers NOTHING and will always win
Are you dumb?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 15:38:29 No.45680235 Report

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 15:39:36 No.45680238 Report

Quoted By:

put in more cards that make you play rock paper scissors

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 15:43:19 No.45680250 Report

Quoted By: >>45680276

>>45680228
>You would just add in MORE random
>so now there's actually less risk
Are you dumb?
>now the flippee is doubly angry because the flipper wagers NOTHING and will always win
That's not how it works. The person getting flipped is angry, because they see the greener pastures where they'd win if the opponent didn't get heads. Now the flip has two types of good, and the flip is more balanced in general, so it's just like getting hit with a normal attack.
Again, you're applying past logic of your experiences into something that is meant to fix them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 15:46:16 No.45680259 Report

Quoted By:

Remove coin flips

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 15:48:51 No.45680276 Report

Quoted By: >>45680282

>>45680250
>people hate coin flips because it's a 50/50
>"what if we added another layer to the flip so now it's 50/50-50??????????????"
leave this country and never return

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 15:51:08 No.45680282 Report

Quoted By: >>45680308

>>45680276
What are you even saying at this point?
If you'll genuinely get mad, because your opponents start playing Pokeball and get to draw a card if they miss, that's some prime autism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 15:57:31 No.45680308 Report

Quoted By: >>45680325

>>45680282
seems like you are just running like a bitch from your own idea at this point

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 16:00:54 No.45680325 Report

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>>45680308
That's some quality projecting, nothing about my idea changed, but you seem to be moving these goalposts at record speed.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 16:55:36 No.45680575 Report

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Its always fun to put up a lot of all kind of trades up before you go to sleep and check them out the next morning to see what went trough, got this trough this time, did I do good? Was just putting up all kind of random trades with my old cards that I don't need for the cards I do need.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 16:59:39 No.45680590 Report

Quoted By: >>45680603 >>45680675

should I still not open tradable packs even if there kind of old?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 17:02:27 No.45680603 Report

Quoted By: >>45680675

>>45680590
I've been getting a 2 for 1 Vivid trade on pretty much all old packs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 17:24:46 No.45680675 Report

Quoted By: >>45680706 >>45680713

>>45680590
hell no, especially if >>45680603 is true, do that instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 17:30:01 No.45680706 Report

Quoted By:

>>45680675
Just finished this trade. It's been pretty easy getting these 2 for 1s the past day.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 17:31:46 No.45680713 Report

Quoted By: >>45680785

>>45680675
It's been pretty easy getting 2 for 1s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 17:48:11 No.45680785 Report

Quoted By:

>>45680713
I guess there is a lot of new people who want to open older packs etc. fun players or people who just want to open packs lol.

Thanks to corona and the online tournaments and everything the playercount must have increased drastically within the past year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 17:49:09 No.45680789 Report

Quoted By: >>45680812 >>45681717

Does Aegislash V's Sonic Edge ignore Altaria's Miraculous Charm and Decidueye's Deep Forest Camo ability?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 17:55:11 No.45680812 Report

Quoted By: >>45683059

>>45680789
yes

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 19:49:14 No.45681583 Report

Quoted By: >>45681723 >>45681912 >>45683059

What the hell is wrong with this guys nose? Horrible beard, greasy hair and dyed hair doesnt help

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 19:50:42 No.45681598 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 20:11:10 No.45681717 Report

Quoted By: >>45683059

>>45680789

Yes

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 20:12:02 No.45681723 Report

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>>45681583

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 20:29:34 No.45681848 Report

Quoted By: >>45682168

R8 my OC which will totally get me hired as a card designer for tpci

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 20:37:27 No.45681912 Report

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>>45681583
Should apply for dr pimplepopper

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 21:17:31 No.45682168 Report

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>>45681848
smogon/5

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 21:32:55 No.45682266 Report

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On a 5 game win streak with this >>45676037 which isn't really all that impressive but it shows how much your guys' advice helped, so thanks again. I realized what >>45675914 meant now, so if you want, you can add me as "EM-isthmus".

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 21:34:37 No.45682278 Report

Quoted By: >>45682282 >>45682283 >>45682294 >>45682305 >>45682674 >>45683059

What did Decigoons do in the last week to cause this price jump?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 21:35:12 No.45682282 Report

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>>45682278
God why is Rosa so fucking sexy ugh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 21:35:24 No.45682283 Report

Quoted By:

>>45682278
Nothing. People just like Rosa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 21:38:33 No.45682294 Report

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>>45682278
Card is just great in general for almost every non-gx/v deck and Rosa is easily in the top 3 pokegirls

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 21:40:46 No.45682305 Report

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>>45682278
Coombros run every aspect of Pokemon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 21:42:56 No.45682318 Report

Quoted By: >>45682328 >>45682406

I've been having a bunch of fun with mew3 in expanded. Got a 17 win streak haha. How come I rarely see people play this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 21:44:07 No.45682328 Report

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>>45682318
I wish mew3 wasn’t so expensive. I’d love to try out mew3 + primarina

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 21:48:46 No.45682350 Report

Quoted By: >>45682358 >>45682359 >>45683059

Is Tapu Koko V decent in Pika Rom?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 21:50:30 No.45682358 Report

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>>45682350
It's a good pivot, just kind of hard to find room for, especially now that Vikavolt is competing for its spot again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 21:50:34 No.45682359 Report

Quoted By: >>45682376

>>45682350
Standard pikarom? Yes, it's a fine pivot, or useful to 2hko a tagteam.
In expanded? No, you have float stone, guzma, or zeraora GX instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 21:52:57 No.45682376 Report

Quoted By:

>>45682359
>>45682359
Yeah I've seen some people running it and I was wondering how good it is and what it replaces. I think I'd rather have Vikavolt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 21:59:10 No.45682406 Report

Quoted By: >>45682522

>>45682318
I really like the deck too but it's not the easiest to play. More complicated than just HAHA ULTRA NECROZMA GO BRRR or people thinking they can pull of altered creation in expanded.

Getting all the cards can be somewhat tricky though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 22:06:05 No.45682476 Report

Quoted By: >>45682577

the fag won

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 22:12:04 No.45682522 Report

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>>45682406
Theres so many options I guess it can be overwhelming. Sometimes after I attack I wish I would've done the other "better" option that I forgot about.
It is super rewarding to play though and its really satisfying to pull some of the combos off
This jolteon and the tinachomp yveltal combo are my favorite things to pull off

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 22:15:33 No.45682560 Report

Quoted By: >>45682622

I wish I could be as happy as Jolteon GX

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 22:18:30 No.45682577 Report

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>>45682476

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 22:19:02 No.45682581 Report

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Spoiler that shit!

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 22:23:44 No.45682622 Report

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>>45682560
I wish I could be happy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 22:30:30 No.45682674 Report

Quoted By: >>45682702

>>45682278
>prizes in packs
is that for online? What is that place anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 22:33:31 No.45682702 Report

Quoted By: >>45682732

>>45682674
It's https://www.ptcgoprices.com from the OP. It's a bot that scans listings in the online game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 22:34:27 No.45682709 Report

Quoted By: >>45682753

So, no ADP in the finals?

Can't wait to see nothing done about this cancer meta then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 22:36:51 No.45682732 Report

Quoted By:

>>45682702
no fucking way I have always looked the prizes manually...it takes ages to load too lmfao fuck me..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 22:39:44 No.45682753 Report

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>>45682709
W-well that means adp sucks and shouldn’t be banned. I-it totally doesn’t prevent an entire archetype from existing.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 23:18:05 No.45683059 Report

Quoted By: >>45683076 >>45683119 >>45683573

>>45680812
>>45681717
Thanks for the info. Looks like Mawile GX's time to shine has passed

>>45682350
I've find Tapu Koko V to get good in Non-New3 pikerom decks and is a good pivot. much better is expanded to be honest.

>>45681583
>What the hell is wrong with this guys nose?
that is one of the side effects of doing drugs up your nose for a long time.

>>45682278
>What did Decigoons do in the last week to cause this price jump?
Nothing. it has done nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 23:20:51 No.45683076 Report

Quoted By:

>>45683059
It’s won two relatively big tourneys m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 23:26:53 No.45683119 Report

Quoted By:

>>45683059
>Looks like Mawile GX's time to shine has passed
Aegislash doesn't rip dedennes and crobats from your opponent's hand, so mawile still has a role in ADPZ. Lucmetal's decigoons counter was stunfisk V or baby stunfisk, now replaced by Aegislash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Dec 2020 00:11:52 No.45683573 Report

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>>45683059
Lmao what? Mawile is still insanely good and having a 2 energy attack option is great too, especially against eternatus

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Anonymous Mon 14 Dec 2020 00:59:22 No.45684045 Report

Quoted By: >>45684092

Make new thread, I will share codes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Dec 2020 01:05:40 No.45684092 Report

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>>45684045
Oh man I really fucked up the previous thread part somehow >>45684086

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