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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:09:16 No.45669599 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>45669611 >>45669631 >>45669696 >>45669883 >>45669917 >>45670065 >>45670106 >>45670597 >>45670645 >>45671395 >>45672424 >>45672430 >>45673802

>Revealed that Pikachu couldn’t even evolve all along

This retcon is dumb and ruins the episodes where he was considering evolving.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:11:37 No.45669611 Report

Quoted By: >>45671381

>>45669599
So?, nothing we can do about it
The anime should have changed protagonists

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:12:38 No.45669619 Report

Quoted By: >>45671408

poor pikachu had kallmann syndrome the whole time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:14:13 No.45669631 Report

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>>45669599
Heckin chonker

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:14:18 No.45669633 Report

Quoted By: >>45669651 >>45669657 >>45670401 >>45670943 >>45673006

This is a series where a 10 year old boy has travel across the entirety of 7 country equivalents in under a year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:17:03 No.45669651 Report

Quoted By: >>45669665 >>45669676 >>45670730

>>45669633
>country equivalents

Regions are not countries, they’re regions. The only one this is debatable with is Kalos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:18:12 No.45669657 Report

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>>45669633
A series where a young boy can train 6 pokemon to league perfection in under 1 year while others in the same universe take entire lifetimes.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:18:39 No.45669659 Report

Quoted By: >>45669868 >>45673011

why did pikachu run from the thunderstone then? can it evolve or not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:19:22 No.45669664 Report

Quoted By: >>45669713

Why are people saying it can't evolve?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:19:37 No.45669665 Report

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>>45669651
Kalos is not based on the entirety of France.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:20:49 No.45669676 Report

Quoted By: >>45670053 >>45670693 >>45672951

>>45669651
Why does each region have it's own league and culture? that shit doesn't make sense. People in the Pokemon world call countries regions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:23:37 No.45669696 Report

Quoted By: >>45669718

>>45669599
>couldn’t even evolve all along
Explain

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:25:33 No.45669713 Report

Quoted By: >>45669756 >>45673064

>>45669664
Pokemon with G-max factor that G-max in a nfe form - pikachu, meowth, eevee - can't evolve so they don't lose access to their special forms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:26:05 No.45669718 Report

Quoted By: >>45669723 >>45669747 >>45669756 >>45671538 >>45672168

>>45669696
Gmax Pikachu Eevee amd Meowth can't evolve and todays episode reveals that partner Eevee can't evolve even if it touches a stone so it probably the same for Ash's Pikachu since partner Pikachu is based on it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:26:44 No.45669723 Report

Quoted By: >>45671326

>>45669718
that's very heavy asspull

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:29:25 No.45669747 Report

Quoted By: >>45669868

>>45669718
Is team rocket's meowth a gmax meowth?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:30:09 No.45669756 Report

Quoted By: >>45670269

>>45669713
this seems more like a failsafe gameplay mechanic than actual lore..
>>45669718
..is what I would say if that wasn’t revealed. jeez.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:46:05 No.45669868 Report

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>>45669659
pikachu doesn't know it can't evolve

>>45669747
yup, it gigantamaxed not long ago, meaning it can't evolve

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:48:12 No.45669883 Report

Quoted By: >>45669905

>>45669599
Not really considering they didn't know this at the time and G-max wasn't a thing yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:51:13 No.45669905 Report

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>>45669883
*yawn* cope harder

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:53:38 No.45669917 Report

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>>45669599
yummy pikachu belly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 01:13:20 No.45670053 Report

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>>45669676
regions can have cultural differences within the same country. Literally get out more often.
> People in the Pokemon world call countries regions
Except characters do use the word country and references to different countries exist, not to mention the games have 6 confirmed regions as part of the same country.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 01:14:23 No.45670065 Report

Quoted By: >>45670174

>>45669599
Do they state Pikachu can't evolve as a result or you just assume it based on game mechanics?

Also, this show is not written with continuity in mind so its retarded that you care AND support the show anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 01:18:19 No.45670106 Report

Quoted By: >>45670116

>>45669599
>Implying the anime cares about anything other than shoving shillmons in our faces nowadays

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 01:18:50 No.45670116 Report

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>>45670106
>nowadays

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 01:25:55 No.45670174 Report

Quoted By: >>45670203 >>45670908 >>45671538 >>45671981

>>45670065
It's never stated that Ash's Pikachu can't evolve because it Gigantamaxed. The most recent episode of the anime had Chloe/Koharu catching an Eevee that is unable to evolve, and people are assuming it will eventually Gigantamax and/or be an analogue to the partner Eevee from LGPE, so OP is extrapolating from that and the game mechanics and assuming that Ash's Pikachu can't evolve at all because it Gigantamaxed. Seems like a bit of a stretch to me considering that the anime never adheres 100% to game mechanics, and the anime just had an episode discussing Pikachu evolving into Raichu a dozen episodes ago. OP's post is much ado about nothing, but hey, it's a free country.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 01:29:47 No.45670203 Report

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>>45670174
Thanks, I was also curious whether they specifically said something about LG partner "forms" but it seems it was also nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 01:38:08 No.45670269 Report

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>>45669756
>this seems more like a failsafe gameplay mechanic than actual lore..
Why not both?

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 01:43:58 No.45670316 Report

Quoted By: >>45670326 >>45671335 >>45673011 >>45673496

Pikachu got his Gigantamax Factor from Eternatus' Galar Particles (episode 12)

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 01:45:16 No.45670326 Report

Quoted By: >>45671368

>>45670316
Gmaxing for the first time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 01:54:25 No.45670401 Report

Quoted By: >>45670548 >>45670556

>>45669633
A year still hasn't passed, ha ha

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 02:18:12 No.45670548 Report

Quoted By: >>45670578

>>45670401
Kukui impregnated his wife and their kid is already at least ~6 months if not near a year old. Ash's age is just a running gag at this point

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 02:19:20 No.45670556 Report

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>>45670401
And somehow Ash attended an entire school year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 02:21:57 No.45670578 Report

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>>45670548
>Go didn't know what a telephone booth was
>Team Rocket did
>Ash didn't know what a smartphone was
Time has definitely passed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 02:24:07 No.45670597 Report

Quoted By: >>45670637 >>45672202

>>45669599
Nu-Pokemon and Nu-Anime has plot holes and continuity errors anyway. Just pretend it doesn't exist, or look at each series as its own separate universe.

For example, only gens 1 - 2 anime are canon for me. Maybe 3 is in there as well, but those are the only ones I see as connected and canon. Anything after that is just dogshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 02:30:35 No.45670637 Report

Quoted By: >>45670714

>>45670597
Gen 1-4 is all one canon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 02:33:24 No.45670645 Report

Quoted By: >>45670714

>>45669599
Not like they knew to this point anyway, and any future thunderstone eps would probably just have them still not know or feel uncomfortable about being close to the stone anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 02:40:03 No.45670693 Report

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>>45669676
Because regions/states/etc. have different cultures in the real world. Hawaii and New York exist in the same country but the cultures are completely different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 02:42:40 No.45670714 Report

Quoted By: >>45671497

>>45670637
Sure, whatever.
>>45670645
>They
It's a male. At least say "he", or if you want to be autistic about Pokemon's rules on language, call it "it", not "they".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 02:44:01 No.45670730 Report

Quoted By: >>45671406 >>45671503

>>45669651
Are regions equivalent to countries or provinces? On one hand, the jap regions (gen 1-4) are based on provinces. The american regions (5,7) are based on a state. But the European regions (6, 8) are based on countries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 03:13:59 No.45670908 Report

Quoted By: >>45671135 >>45671981

>>45670174
For the record, the same episode speculates that Eevee CAN evolve, it just doesn't know what path it wants to take in life just yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 03:20:26 No.45670943 Report

Quoted By: >>45671728

>>45669633
A 10 year old boy could travel across Unova in the better part of a day lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 03:54:48 No.45671123 Report

Quoted By: >>45671150

According to the Pokemon anime, Electricity works on Ground types, so what's the issue here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 03:57:28 No.45671135 Report

Quoted By: >>45671222

>>45670908
I dunno how to react to that. I've seen Pokemon evolve from being a foot away from a stone, or some only evolve once they touch a stone, but that motherfucker straight up touches it without anything happening and I don't think this is some Rowlet scenario.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 04:03:02 No.45671150 Report

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>>45671123
OP is a retard who probably thinks that the game is canon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 04:19:50 No.45671222 Report

Quoted By: >>45671832

>>45671135
You also have to remember that in the anime, a Pokemon can deliberately choose not to evolve through sheer willpower.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 04:39:50 No.45671326 Report

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>>45669723
This, so you're telling me that Gmax is a permanent gimmick, cause if it isnt this it'll look beyond retarded that there was a season where mons who could normally evolve cant even after touching a stone just because of some dumb ass get bigger ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 04:41:09 No.45671335 Report

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>>45670316
I love the lighting in this shot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 04:47:11 No.45671368 Report

Quoted By: >>45673058

>>45670326
Why can't I play this video?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 04:49:42 No.45671381 Report

Quoted By: >>45671397 >>45672776

>>45669611
This.
Should have passed the torch to Jimmy before Johto could even become the shitfest it was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 04:52:47 No.45671395 Report

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>>45669599
I love how they keep doing "Look, Pikachu is next to a Thunderstone, will he evolve??????" episodes. It's fucking obvious it's not happening, it's been obvious for over two decades.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 04:52:54 No.45671397 Report

Quoted By: >>45671584

>>45671381
>tfw no Johto series with the adventures of Marina and Jimmy
>no Hoenn series exploring the dynamic of May and Brendan being the kids of the two most important NPC archetypes, with Wally as a recurring character
>No Sinnoh series with Lucas/Barry/Dawn and DiaPer shenanigans
>No Unova series that actually represented the age group the games embodied (Don't say it doesn't work as a children's show, Digimon Savers exists)
>No Kalos series that would have given us more clues on what Z was supposed to be like

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 04:53:39 No.45671406 Report

Quoted By:

>>45670730
>Are regions equivalent to countries
We definitely know its not the case.
>or provinces?
Seems more like it, though its arguable whether Galar and Alola belong to the first country.
>IRL basis
irrelevant

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 04:53:51 No.45671408 Report

Quoted By:

>>45669619
You should listen Jimmy Scott. His voice is just so weird.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 04:59:08 No.45671444 Report

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Gen VIII and Dynamax ruin Pokemon forever. News at 11.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 05:10:23 No.45671497 Report

Quoted By:

>>45670714
They as in Ash + Pikachu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 05:12:34 No.45671503 Report

Quoted By: >>45671529

>>45670730
Unova is based on NYC not the entire state tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 05:13:44 No.45671509 Report

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Just give Pikachu Max Soup and it can evolve again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 05:17:41 No.45671529 Report

Quoted By: >>45671598

>>45671503
>Unova is based
fuck you

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 05:19:43 No.45671538 Report

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>>45669718
>>45670174
>Came to the Kanto region through some mysterious force

Partner Pikachu amd Eevee come from the real world and that why they're special snowflakes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 05:25:50 No.45671572 Report

Quoted By: >>45672064

Gigantamax factor isn't a thing in the anime. If a pokemon species can Gigantamax (like Pikachu, Centisikorch or Garbodor), then ALL pokemon of that species will always Gigantamax if they Dynamax. As far as we know, regular Dynamax Pikachu doesn't even exist in the anime.
The reason Koharu's Eevee can't evolve is most likely because it's supposed to be a Partner Eevee, not because of anything related to Gigantamax. It might even get some of the Let's Go exclusive moves like Baddy Bad. Ash's Pikachu, despite being a snowflake in many aspects, doesn't know any Partner Pikachu moves, so it might actually not be one.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 05:28:32 No.45671584 Report

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>>45671397
>Kalos series that didn't orbit around Ash and instead focused on exploring the region and its mysteries/potential might have featured Drasna

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 05:32:57 No.45671598 Report

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>>45671529
best wishes series are trash, but the games are awesome and u know it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 06:10:06 No.45671728 Report

Quoted By:

>>45670943
All while the Deerling in the background had time to change their coats from Spring to Summer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 06:42:30 No.45671832 Report

Quoted By: >>45671843

>>45671222
But it's also been suggested that a Pokemon can't resist an evolution brought on by a stone. Pikachu's had several run-ins with nearly accidentally evolving, like that one episode of BW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 06:43:57 No.45671843 Report

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>>45671832
I didn't watch BW, but I didn't know stone evolutions were automatic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 07:16:09 No.45671961 Report

Quoted By: >>45672077

Imagine being an eevee being permanently stuck as an NFE with your only hope of getting stronger is a throw away gimmick.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 07:20:03 No.45671981 Report

Quoted By: >>45672073 >>45672811

>>45670174
>>45670908
Bet it will evolve into a new Eevolution. Either a new single type or a double type evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 07:40:45 No.45672064 Report

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>>45671572
An Urshifu toy is coming out for the anime, so odds are Honey and Mustard will show up eventually. That means that Max Soup will likely be brought up as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 07:41:53 No.45672073 Report

Quoted By: >>45672362 >>45672865

>>45671981
There are no potential new Pokemon for it to evolve into until at least gen 9, which most likely isn't coming out until 2022.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 07:43:19 No.45672077 Report

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>>45671961
maybe the remakes gimmick in 20 years will be that nfes can harness their giganto energy into a permanent evolution, pikachu will get gorochu and eevee will get the coveted eeveeon or normeon or whatever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 08:14:18 No.45672168 Report

Quoted By: >>45672943

>>45669718
you are so fucking retarded, nice headcanon though, for every other anon wondering if this is true, it isnt, watch the episode, eevee cant evolve and they say its because "maybe she hasnt decided yet", they never say anything about pikachu, meowth or anyone else

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 08:21:20 No.45672202 Report

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>>45670597
>Anything after that is just dogshit.
I mean, you like the gen 1-2 anime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 09:14:22 No.45672362 Report

Quoted By: >>45673320

>>45672073
Anon, they announce Ash-Greninja and Zygarde forms during Gen 6. Lycanroc Dusk Form was announce during the halfway point of Gen 7. Now we are in a Gen where you can get new pokemon through DLCs. Anything is possible with these guys when it come to shilling a new Pokémon or new form. All we can guess is that they will probably release a new form and it will be a DLC event.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 09:19:22 No.45672373 Report

Quoted By:

The whole anime series is dumb, literally nothing changed and plot gimmicks/tropes/previa ideas still keep getting used by the end of the day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 09:44:15 No.45672424 Report

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>>45669599
You’re forget the episode when Brock shoves an everstone up Pikachu’s ass. It’s been up there ever since. They can’t get it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 09:46:57 No.45672430 Report

Quoted By:

>>45669599
>pokemon anime
>caring about canon
just enjoy the wacky kids show anon i promise you overthinking any part of it will just ruin it for
you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 12:18:25 No.45672776 Report

Quoted By:

>>45671381
>Jimmy
Man, they really couldn't have come up with a better name than that, huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 12:34:26 No.45672811 Report

Quoted By: >>45673320

>>45671981
Fuck off dumbass. Every gen the same delusional talk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 12:58:26 No.45672865 Report

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>>45672073
Considering Diamond and Pearl are the cross-gen generation, it wouldn’t surprise me if their remakes did a few cross-gens

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 13:25:36 No.45672943 Report

Quoted By: >>45672976

>>45672168
Involuntary Evolutions have been a thing in this show since the Vileplume vs Bellossom episode. If you wanna go that route you have to explain why that episode happened

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 13:28:08 No.45672951 Report

Quoted By:

>>45669676
>region have it's own league
Johto doesn’t

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 13:36:10 No.45672976 Report

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>>45672943
Because continuity doesn’t matter at this point you fucking retard, the writers can pull whatever they want out of their asses as the show goes on just like they have always done

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 13:44:27 No.45673006 Report

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>>45669633
Epstein enabled this dream for dozens of children.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 13:46:08 No.45673011 Report

Quoted By: >>45673682

>>45670316
Explain >>45669659
Which happened after

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 14:01:39 No.45673058 Report

Quoted By:

>>45671368
copyrekt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 14:03:12 No.45673064 Report

Quoted By:

>>45669713
But did the anime explicitly say that Pikachu couldn't evolve? The anime doesn't go 1-for-1 with game lore all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 15:23:51 No.45673320 Report

Quoted By:

>>45672811
>>45672362

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 16:07:06 No.45673496 Report

Quoted By:

>>45670316
that doesn't seem smart a electric rat on a plane

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 16:49:06 No.45673682 Report

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>>45673011
Ash doesn't know that GmaxChu can't evolve, hell he know nothing about Gmax in general because he only did it twice in 50 fucking episodes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 17:22:23 No.45673802 Report

Quoted By: >>45676560

>>45669599
It's the ashnime. You know they'll just have it both ways where it could still evolve despite being gigantamax. The real problem is they're not going to explain how a pikachu that's never been to galar got a gigantamax factor just like they never explained asspullium-Z in sun and moon. Plus it would have technically been confirmed as early as yellow version, then reconfirmed with the hat pikachus and LGPE in gen 7.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 17:27:18 No.45673831 Report

Quoted By: >>45674090

Why are you guys still watching this. They reused episode ideas and shit because it's meant to be a new audience. It's a kids cartoons, what the hell do you all expect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 18:18:22 No.45674090 Report

Quoted By: >>45674606

>>45673831
>They reused episode ideas and shit
Don't the people who worked on all those episodes ever get tired and fed up of that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 19:42:33 No.45674606 Report

Quoted By: >>45675813

>>45674090
It's a job and it won't have been the same staff for 20 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 22:24:04 No.45675813 Report

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>>45674606
>won't have been the same staff for 20 years
That's a given. Supposedly, a lot of them quit after the Kalos league.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 00:03:37 No.45676560 Report

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>>45673802
Inb4 Pikachu always had a Gmax Factor and it run away from a trainer from SS Anne sailing from Galar to Kanto, and that's how it came about Oak's Lab

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