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>>45717190
removing all the bloat, Constrict and Razor Wind should not still be in the game if they're not going to be improved, same with all the normal-type multi-hit moves. the only move removals I disagree with are Pursuit, Return without replacing it with any equivalent, and the signature moves like Twineedle and Heal Order which provided flavor

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 17:44:37 No.45717352 Report

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>>45717302
false, you said they were removed from the mainline games, let's go, which was probably developed along or after swsh (which beta has them) has megas.

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 17:47:16 No.45717369 Report

Quoted By: >>45717390 >>45719227

>>45717352
LGPE was finished before SS. SS doesn't have megas. Therefore megas were removed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 17:50:26 No.45717390 Report

Quoted By: >>45719026

>>45717369
ok we'll see in the next games dynafag.

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 17:53:54 No.45717410 Report

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>>45717190
>>45717236
You are everything wrong with this franchise.

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 17:55:44 No.45717422 Report

Quoted By: >>45722464

>>45717190
Seasons.

>DUDE ARBITRARILY WAIT 3 MONTHS JUST SO YOU CAN BACKTRACK TO THIS ROUTE AND GRAB A SINGLE ITEM SO MUCH SOUL XD

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 17:57:28 No.45717433 Report

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Will Unown come back?

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 18:05:08 No.45717467 Report

Quoted By: >>45717708 >>45722780

Here's an actual answer to start the thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 18:53:13 No.45717708 Report

Quoted By: >>45717721

>>45717467
Fog still exists as a visual condition though? Like especially in the beginning of SWSH?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 18:56:26 No.45717721 Report

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>>45717708
Fog in battles was a fucking mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 19:36:13 No.45717931 Report

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>>45717271
>present in swsh's beta,
So, they were not in the finished product, hence removed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 19:37:14 No.45717940 Report

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>>45717319
removing pursuit was the only thing i tolerated, because it hampered with the mighty switching

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 19:38:08 No.45717946 Report

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>>45717266
It''ll come back as Unown's signature move

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 20:03:21 No.45718089 Report

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>>45717190
t.

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 20:04:44 No.45718106 Report

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>>45717319
Twineedle isn’t there because Beedrill isn’t

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 21:53:35 No.45718867 Report

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>>45717190

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 22:10:52 No.45718975 Report

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 22:12:49 No.45718988 Report

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>>45717236
/thread
Ignore the megacuck seethe below

BME !wp8LJJh.fs

BME !wp8LJJh.fs Fri 18 Dec 2020 22:20:37 No.45719026 Report

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>>45717390
He'll still be right since they were still removed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 22:53:45 No.45719172 Report

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>>45717236
Megas being gone would have only been a good thing if another gimmick didn't immediately replace it.
But alas, gimmicks are necessary to sell units and merch, so we'll be plagued with a different one every generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 23:05:04 No.45719227 Report

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>>45717369
Leaf green pikachu edition?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 23:15:29 No.45719282 Report

Quoted By: >>45719414

>>45717271
Where they actually in the beta or just on the non-related place holder title screen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 23:28:41 No.45719348 Report

Quoted By: >>45719355 >>45719364

>removing the universal coverage move is an improvement
>now Ghost-types are sitting ducks against Normal- and Dark-types
>now Electric-types are sitting ducks against Grass-, Ground-, and Water/Ground-types
>Magnezone lost the only thing that made it relevant in the first place

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 23:30:01 No.45719355 Report

Quoted By: >>45719400

>>45719348
>>removing the universal coverage move is an improvement
Yes.

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 23:31:43 No.45719364 Report

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>>45719348
>NOOOO EVERYTHING NEEDS TO HAVE A PERFECT ANSWER TO EVERYTHING ELSE!!! WHO CARES ABOUT INDIVIDUALITY OR NICHES, ALL THE POKEMON NEED TO BE RESKINS OF EACH OTHER!!!

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 23:31:48 No.45719365 Report

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>>45718975
Nah, Pokémon Snap did it better. Poké Finder forces you to GRIND until 1,000,000 totally likes if you want to call Pokémon, with people giving you 20,000 at best.

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 23:37:33 No.45719400 Report

Quoted By: >>45719405

>>45719355
>>45719364
>complaining about Hidden Power nearly perfect coverage
>Earthquake is fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 23:38:36 No.45719405 Report

Quoted By: >>45722046

>>45719400
There's more than enough Flying and Levitate Pokemon going around to nullify EQ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 23:39:50 No.45719414 Report

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>>45719282
The latter. The SwSh proto only had like 30 mons poorly programmed in, it's not proof of anything. You'd think Arceus being on the title screen would've said it all

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 23:52:40 No.45719496 Report

Quoted By: >>45722055 >>45722064

>>45717214
The only reasonable answer. GF could keep all features and ban some for the online battling, if they are really keen on balancing. Instead, we're getting BS excuses as to why they didn't keep Megas or Z Moves. Not even mentioning stuff like the Battle Frontier, following Pokémon, vs. seeker, difficulty settings, among many other things, some of these having been a standard in video games for decades.

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 23:59:28 No.45719529 Report

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Why do people that seethe over megas and hidden power love Z moves so much?

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 23:59:33 No.45719530 Report

Quoted By: >>45719534 >>45719726 >>45719749 >>45719758 >>45722081

>>45717190
It’s funny how nobody had a problem with HP before but now that it’s gone all of a sudden people hate it

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Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 00:00:37 No.45719534 Report

Quoted By: >>45719755

>>45719530
It's the Pokemon cycle.
Something gets removed, shills defend it by saying they "always hated it anyway", but then if it ever comes back, they'll say "BASED BASED BASED" until the cows come home.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 00:39:33 No.45719726 Report

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>>45719530
Pokémon fans are baseless, mindless creatures who have no idea what they're talking about

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Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 00:45:41 No.45719749 Report

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>>45719530
plenty of people had a problem with it before. Breeding/SRing for it is fucking retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 00:46:55 No.45719755 Report

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>>45719534
There is no Pokemon cycle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 00:47:17 No.45719758 Report

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>>45719530
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/lets-ban-hidden-power.18506/

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Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 02:47:23 No.45720422 Report

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>>45717214
"B-b-b-b-but I love having less content!"

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Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 02:51:01 No.45720437 Report

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>>45717236
this
mega beedrill was just too good for the metagame

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Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 02:58:05 No.45720486 Report

Quoted By: >>45720489

>>45720422
I like having a higher quality game, yes.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 02:59:14 No.45720489 Report

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>>45720486
>$0.2 have been deposited in your account.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 03:01:15 No.45720501 Report

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>>45717255
Seeing megas used in the anime while it's not in the games makes me even more mad that they remove it, it's like when Team Magma used Houndoour in the AG anime

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Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 10:37:42 No.45722046 Report

Quoted By: >>45722059

>>45719405
And there's more than enough defensive Pokemon going around to nullify a 60 BP non-stab move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 10:40:46 No.45722055 Report

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>>45719496
didn't they ban sky drop in G5 online when people found out the move can be abused for a glitch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 10:42:44 No.45722059 Report

Quoted By: >>45722362 >>45722582

>>45722046
Except you can predict a Pokemon being able to use Earthquake. You can’t predict a Pokemon pulling one out of sixteen types out of its asshole thanks to a retarded move being in the game.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 10:44:00 No.45722064 Report

Quoted By: >>45722089

>>45719496
>they should waste development time making the game worse because reasons

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Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 10:56:07 No.45722081 Report

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>>45719530
GF removed it, and GF is beyond reproach, which means removing it was the right decision, which means it was bad.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 10:59:00 No.45722089 Report

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>>45722064
Elaborate or gtfo, im tired of shitty greentext +200 replies arguments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 12:54:48 No.45722362 Report

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>>45722059
>You can’t predict a Pokemon pulling one out of sixteen types out of its asshole thanks to a retarded move being in the game.
Yes, you can.
Just look at Pokemon with small movepools, and predict how some of them might use Hidden Power that's Ground, Fighting or etc. instead of having an empty move slot.
Or, I'm sorry, perhaps that requires too much brain power for you.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 13:08:57 No.45722408 Report

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How many times are you fuckers gonna fall for the same shit? It's the same fucking bait thread every other day

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 13:26:59 No.45722464 Report

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>>45717422
It was one month you retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 13:27:52 No.45722467 Report

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>>45717190
Hidden power and pursuit are great moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 13:46:55 No.45722512 Report

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>>45717236
Megas literally completely trivialized the challenge, Dynamax is at least limited to specific fights.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 14:18:33 No.45722582 Report

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>>45722059
Yes you can. This is because the only HP types that are commonly run are Grass, Fire or Ice. If it's not one of those three than you already know what it is because it always runs that type, for example, Thundurus Therian running HP Flying. You would know this if you played competitive and weren't talking out of your ass

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Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 14:27:59 No.45722614 Report

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Here’s your reply.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 14:34:03 No.45722637 Report

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>>45719758
>oh no some dumb fuck on smogon has an opinion, this means the opinion is right.

HP was always fine, keep crying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 14:49:05 No.45722697 Report

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>>45722512
>Megas literally completely trivialized the challenge
Using the support block in Mario trivializes the challenge in those games, and they dangle that in your face even more than megas in Pokemon.
That criticism is strictly the fault of GameFreak not being willing to make the game even remotely challenging.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2020 15:11:16 No.45722780 Report

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>>45717467

>Foggy weather in SWSH is just Misty Terrain

I am okay with this

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