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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 01:57:53 No.45802798 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>45802822 >>45802840 >>45802857 >>45802946 >>45802972 >>45803046 >>45803665 >>45804035 >>45804070

>looks like a large green pine cone
>bagworm pokemon
WHY?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 01:59:18 No.45802812 Report

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Because he's a bagworm that looks like a pinecone.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 02:00:28 No.45802822 Report

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>>45802798
>hurfffdurrrr

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 02:02:34 No.45802840 Report

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>>45802798
I literally don't know if OP is baiting or if he's a retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 02:05:10 No.45802857 Report

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>>45802798
I fucking wonder OP, such a mystery...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 02:06:27 No.45802867 Report

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>>45802822
Yeah thats a gagworm alright. Doesn't exactly look like a pinecone though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 02:11:12 No.45802914 Report

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Maybe its supposed to be more like this. In japanese pineco gets its name from the saw tooth oak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 02:12:07 No.45802921 Report

Quoted By: >>45802932

>>45802867
>Doesn't exactly look like a pinecone though.
Yes it does, autismo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 02:13:28 No.45802932 Report

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>>45802921
You are blind if you think bagworms look like pinecones.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 02:14:58 No.45802946 Report

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>>45802798
What we see of Pineco/Forretress is just their outer shell. What they look like on the inside is unknown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 02:15:29 No.45802950 Report

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>>45802932
but it does look like a pinecone, and I'm not blind, sooooo.....

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 02:18:29 No.45802972 Report

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>>45802798
>no wordplay or association to pinecones in japanese media
>translated to pinecone foreplay in every other language
I hate The Pokemon Company International.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 02:21:08 No.45802990 Report

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>>45802946
>what lurks inside this shell is a total mystery
Well apparently we know its a bagworm though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 02:28:14 No.45803046 Report

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>>45802798
This was actually explained by the betas. They originally had an actual bagworm Pokemon and a moth evolution in mind (these would later be repurposed as Burmy and Mothim in gen 4), but scrapped it early.

They then came up with Pineco as a Grass-type pinecone later in development, but decided to resurrect the "essence" of the scrapped bagworm line by giving Pineco its type and species name. This process is also why Umbreon went from Poison to Dark (the type of the scrapped bell cats) and why Sneasel is part Ice-type (inherited from the scrapped Wearwolf line).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 04:02:51 No.45803640 Report

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>>45803046
do you have a pic of the beta pineco?

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 04:06:31 No.45803665 Report

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>>45802798
>>45803046
It didn't help that the retarded localization team named it 'Pineco' to add further confusion.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 04:16:39 No.45803712 Report

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>>45803640
The 4th and 5th Pokemon on row 9. There were some later prototype designs for Forretress too, iirc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 04:19:00 No.45803724 Report

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>>45803712
I'm not going to say we were robbed but goddamn was gamefreak dumb for dropping a lot of these designs

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 04:19:53 No.45803728 Report

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>>45803712
>row 11
>3rd mon
That's pretty fucking spooky. Kinda reminds me of pic related.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 04:22:56 No.45803744 Report

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>>45803712
Yeah see that actually looks like a bagworm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 04:44:20 No.45803866 Report

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>>45803665
It's literally based on a pinecone. There is no confusion you dumbfuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 04:45:14 No.45803869 Report

Quoted By: >>45803913 >>45803918

>>45803866
It's based on a bagworm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 04:55:33 No.45803913 Report

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>>45803869
It WAS based on a bagworm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 04:56:08 No.45803918 Report

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>>45803869
It's based on both. How is this difficult for you to understand?

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:00:37 No.45803937 Report

Quoted By: >>45803956 >>45803975 >>45804058

>>45803046
>This was actually explained by the betas.
No, it's explained by not being a retard.

It's a bagworm, that covers itself in tree bark, as mentioned in the pokedex, and as a result, it has layers of tree bark as a shell that ends up resembling a pinecone. You smoothbrains probably don't even realize it's based on a grenade too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:06:41 No.45803956 Report

Quoted By: >>45803971

>>45803937
Pineco was a grass type in Spaceworld 99, the dex even calling it a pinecone Pokemon. The idea of a bagworm Pokemon came first all the way back in 96-97, then they scrapped it before Spaceworld 97, came up with Pineco as a pinecone Pokemon around 98-99 after the major reboot of the project, but wanted to resurrect the bagworm idea and changed Pineco to a bug type bagworm late in development so they could have their cake and eat it too while saving slots (since they were only able to fit about 100 new Pokemon into the game).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:08:50 No.45803971 Report

Quoted By: >>45803999

>>45803956
>b-buh beta
how is this relevant again? what matters is what the final design is, your speculation about GF's design process doesn't matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:09:48 No.45803975 Report

Quoted By: >>45804058

>>45803937
>based on a grenade
So it can be based on a grenade even though the only reference to grenades it has is that it blows up but it cant be based on a pinecone despite its entire design looking like a pinecone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:09:52 No.45803976 Report

Quoted By: >>45803993

>>45802932
Pineco, the pokemon, looks like a bagworm and also a pinecone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:11:55 No.45803993 Report

Quoted By: >>45804058

>>45803976
It looks nothing like a bagworm and everything like a pinecone. The only features you would be able to point out are ones that are common between the two. It has no features that are unique to bagworms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:12:49 No.45803999 Report

Quoted By: >>45804029 >>45804058

>>45803971
>"bagworm" that has been criticized for looking way more like a pinecone ever since G&S first came out
>turns out that, yes, it was supposed to be a pinecone at one point, and that Burmy is based on how the bagworm Pokemon was originally supposed to look
>nooooo dont analyze product!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:18:14 No.45804029 Report

Quoted By: >>45804042 >>45804046

>>45803999
>bagworm species looks like a pinecone
>game freak repurposes the beta pinecone to fill both the pinecone and bag worm niche
What is so hard to understand?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:18:33 No.45804035 Report

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>>45802798
I really like Pineco and Forretress designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:20:06 No.45804042 Report

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>>45804029
Yes, that's what I was saying?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:20:52 No.45804046 Report

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>>45804029
Clearly the bagworm niche wasn't filled because they had to fill it again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:21:09 No.45804049 Report

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>>45804042
Oh, word. Dont mind me I'm drunk and not the other faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:22:41 No.45804054 Report

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>>45804046
Clearly the dog niche wasnt filled because they had to fill it again.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:23:22 No.45804058 Report

Quoted By: >>45805770

>>45803975
>So it can be based on a grenade even though the only reference to grenades it has is that it blows up but it cant be based on a pinecone despite its entire design looking like a pinecone?
It's based on both. Also it literally looks like a grenade you retard.

>>45803993
>It looks nothing like a bagworm
>>45803937
>>45802822

>>45803999
>>"bagworm" that has been criticized for looking way more like a pinecone ever since G&S first came out
It's only "criticized" for this by retards who don't even know what bagworms look like. The design we got is based on a pinecone and a bagworm to play on the fact that real life bagworms literally look like pinecones. You betatards are the same type of dumbasses who didn't even realize Remoraid was always based on a pistol until it was spelled out for you.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:25:43 No.45804068 Report

Quoted By: >>45804075

bagworms are moths..... the final evo would be a moth not a like nut like object >>45802914

this is terrible bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:26:03 No.45804070 Report

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>>45802798
kinda wish it did get a gender based split evo like burmy but I can see why they wouldn't wanna waste a slot on a bug flying shitmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:27:53 No.45804075 Report

Quoted By: >>45804093 >>45804119

>>45804068
Not him, but
>IF POKEMIN IS BASED ON (X), IT SHOULD TURN INTO (Y)
Remoraid into Octillery? Grookey and Thwackey into Rillaboom? Poliwag into Poliwhirl? Pokemon don't need to follow the actual growth cycles of their irl base dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:32:24 No.45804093 Report

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>>45804075
Are you telling me that remora/archery fish hybrids don't exist and don't grow into giant octopuses irl?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:34:17 No.45804107 Report

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>v3.5 is probably the oldest game version anywhere in the archive and already has the final starters with their final names, so newer than SW 1997. 5.2 is seemingly final.
>Pineco was pure Grass and seemingly did not evolve, and when it did evolve, Forretress was Grass/Steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:37:02 No.45804119 Report

Quoted By: >>45804398

>>45804075
>Pokemon don't need to follow the actual growth cycles of their irl base dude.
true but its not a badworm if anything it would be something alone the lines of a "mexican jumping bean" (which is also a moth) a *living* nut due to a bug living/hiddening in it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 06:02:46 No.45804230 Report

Quoted By: >>45804491

>>45802946
Do they not do dissections in the Pokémon world, or do these "mystery body" Pokémon blow up upon death?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 06:47:57 No.45804398 Report

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>>45804119
It's a bag worm. Continue to cope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 07:13:28 No.45804483 Report

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>>45802822
That looks more like wormadam

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 07:16:05 No.45804491 Report

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>>45804230
It’s metal, perhaps it is too hard to dissect 4tress because anything that can actually cut the metal will destroy the internals too much for analysis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 11:23:27 No.45805209 Report

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It's a joke, retards. To exaggerate the fact that even just remotely a bagworm reminds a pinecone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 13:58:44 No.45805666 Report

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>gamefreak clearly uses a design that was meant for a pinecone pokemon but really wanted a bagworm pokemon
>eh just say its a bagworm
>20 years later anons say it clearly looks like a bagworm
The amount of retardation here is amazing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 14:01:00 No.45805671 Report

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Why not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 14:03:43 No.45805677 Report

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>>45804054
There is no "dog niche". There's nothing fucking niche about dogs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 14:04:16 No.45805680 Report

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>>45803712
>beta noctowl wasn't reworked into a mid stage even though it fits perfectly
What the fuck

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 14:26:59 No.45805770 Report

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>>45804058
You're only making connections where there are already vague shape similarities between real life pinecones and grenades. There is nothing in pinecos design that is unique to grenades and not pinecones.

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