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ITT: Shitty balance changes

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:15:47 No.45804015 View View Reply Original Report

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>Harsh Sunlight damages Ice Types
because fuck you

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:20:56 No.45804047 Report

Quoted By: >>45804115 >>45805423 >>45827911

Stealth rock damage can stack just like spikes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:24:52 No.45804065 Report

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>>45804015
Rain stacks damage against Fire types like being badly poisoned

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:28:54 No.45804079 Report

Quoted By: >>45814522 >>45819358 >>45821153

Grass contact moves are disabled if they hit a pokemon with magma armor or flame body.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:32:18 No.45804092 Report

Quoted By: >>45827305

>>45804015
Ice resists water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:35:25 No.45804113 Report

Quoted By: >>45804124 >>45804245

>>45804015
is this a heckin cute enby?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:36:26 No.45804115 Report

Quoted By: >>45807127

>>45804047
>implying this is bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:37:07 No.45804120 Report

Quoted By: >>45804841

Female pokemon have a 20 percent damage penalty on all moves

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 05:37:18 No.45804124 Report

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>>45804113

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 06:05:00 No.45804245 Report

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>>45804113
Crap it does look like her

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 06:18:56 No.45804306 Report

Quoted By: >>45804358

>>45804015
I thing it would be great change but then rain should damage watertypes as well

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 06:26:16 No.45804329 Report

Quoted By: >>45808297 >>45814707

>>45804015
>Evasion and Accuracy are now their own stats with EVs, IVs and hindering/helpful natures
>Bigger Pokemon can now carry more items but now also take up more slots on your team
>Evolved Pokemon's abilities stack on top of their pre-evo abilities instead of just flat out replacing it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 06:33:37 No.45804357 Report

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stats now get rounded up to the nearest hundred or 0. instead of having decreased accuracy "stronger" attacks now just have a wider lower range for damage rolls

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 06:34:23 No.45804358 Report

Quoted By: >>45811009

>>45804306
>rain
>damaging water types
Well it's shitty, i'll give you that

Counteroffer: Rain should damage fire types, and maybe ground types

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 06:35:58 No.45804367 Report

Quoted By: >>45804782 >>45808476 >>45824706

Normal moves does x2 to fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 09:08:04 No.45804782 Report

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>>45804367
Where's the shitty part here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 09:24:34 No.45804829 Report

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dragon resists fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 09:27:33 No.45804841 Report

Quoted By: >>45812485

>>45804120
Female pokemon receive only 79% healing from recovery moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 11:27:07 No.45805220 Report

Quoted By: >>45805530 >>45807570

>>45804015
Introduce a variant of Stealth Rock for every type. They can all stack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 11:31:03 No.45805227 Report

Quoted By: >>45805355 >>45805435

Steel resists water and electric

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 12:14:03 No.45805355 Report

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>>45805227
That is shitty for balance, but it's also shitty for logic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 12:18:39 No.45805375 Report

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>>45804015
Intimidate now also has a change of flinching the target with each hit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 12:36:50 No.45805423 Report

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>>45804047
All hazards now do typed damage, as does leech seed and sticky web (which slows down mons weak to bug more than otherwise)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 12:41:31 No.45805435 Report

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>>45805227
Steel resists water, once. It doesn't end well for meta so they changed. Meanwhile, electric and poison should be super effective against steel according to irl logic. But make it resists Fighting because punching/kicking a steel is painful tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 13:14:38 No.45805530 Report

Quoted By: >>45806883 >>45807570

>>45805220
>fans make a new rule where if one player manages to put all 18 types of hazard on to the opponents side, then they win the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 17:11:43 No.45806883 Report

Quoted By: >>45807570

>>45805530
>Switch in
>Eat up to 18 moves at once
Even with a few immunities you'd be dead

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 17:32:52 No.45807028 Report

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>>45804015
poison halves special attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 17:44:34 No.45807108 Report

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Getting flinched raises your SpDef

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 17:47:08 No.45807127 Report

Quoted By: >>45808030

>>45804115
It insta kills volcarona if you get 2 rocks up, so I would imagine it would suck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 18:38:47 No.45807570 Report

Quoted By: >>45807758 >>45809402

>>45805220
>>45805530
>>45806883
>Rock, Ice, Dark, Fairy, Bug, Steel, and Flying hazards have no immunites.
Now I'm curious on what would be minimum number of Stealth X would you need to laid down to kill any Pokémon from full health??

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 19:02:29 No.45807758 Report

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>>45807570
You would need at least 8 assuming that Ground entry hazards do not effect pokemon with levitate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 19:39:58 No.45808030 Report

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>>45807127
what are heavy duty boots?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 20:10:21 No.45808297 Report

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>>45804329
Now this is what OP was talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 20:14:40 No.45808335 Report

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>>45804015
>adding the Fairy-type

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 20:17:16 No.45808358 Report

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Defog now only works in foggy weather, which has a new setting move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 20:18:44 No.45808370 Report

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Levitate is an attribute and not an ability, giving floaty pokemon an extra ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 20:19:27 No.45808378 Report

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new move, refog. undoes the effect of a defog done the same turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 20:31:13 No.45808476 Report

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>>45804367
this would be great
if i ever make a romhack this is the first change i'm implementing

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 20:33:39 No.45808495 Report

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>>45804015
>Physical moves can't hit ghost types

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 20:46:30 No.45808604 Report

Quoted By: >>45810827 >>45811569

If you have more than 1HP remaining, using Counter, Mirror Coat or Metal Burst also gives you a free Endure at the start of the turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 22:22:12 No.45809402 Report

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>>45807570
I think you'd need to lay them all down.
Even if you lay down all of the ones without immunities, that still wouldn't kill everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 23:20:40 No.45809909 Report

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A Pokemon's ugliness or beauty stat affects the effectiveness of Attract.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 23:25:17 No.45809957 Report

Quoted By: >>45822393

The contest stats (cuteness, coolness, beauty, smartness, and toughness) become their own base stats with an impact in actual battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 00:40:49 No.45810827 Report

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>>45808604
>Wobuffet instantly becomes OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 00:47:55 No.45810922 Report

Quoted By: >>45814484

Burn Up destroys the user's held item.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 00:54:36 No.45811009 Report

Quoted By: >>45811523

>>45804358
Rain removes the Ground type's immunity to Electric attacks. Or rain in general applies a Soak effect to the entire field.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 01:45:24 No.45811523 Report

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>>45811009
>Rain removes the Ground-type immunity to Electric
actually is sick. But then VoltRain or Chaddos would just be too good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 01:51:24 No.45811569 Report

Quoted By: >>45811644

>>45808604
i thought these were supposed to be bad balance change-
>leftovers
oh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 01:56:52 No.45811627 Report

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>>45804015
>Rain erodes rock and ground types, making them typeless or monotype.
>Choice items reset if the move misses, allowing for a new move to be chosen
>Average Room - takes the average speed of all pokemon in the opponent and your party and makes the pokemon whos speed is closest to the mean move first
>Every type gets a 1 hit ko taught by a special move tutor
>ghost can't touch fighting
>only water types can fight on surf routes
>any pokemon can just have no ability
>crits are again determined by speed
>Pokemon with protect can't breed in daycare
>self destruct only halves health but turns you into a pure ghost type
>Rain makes water types without swift swim slower because they get too soggy
>hidden ability pokemon are not allowed to have perfect ivs
>new silvally look alike is added that can be given two plates
>pokemon can learn all tms and trs as long as they are the same type
>sleep makes the awoken pokemon slow on the first turn after they recover because they are still sleepy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 02:00:22 No.45811644 Report

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>>45811569
I was about to suggest that maybe it could be balanced by you having to make the correct call for the endure effect to work (be hit by a physical move for Counter or a special move for Mirror Coat, while calling it wrong gets you KO'd) but then I remembered Metal Burst tanks both kinds of attacks...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 02:18:22 No.45811759 Report

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>>45804015
yell femgrunt not smothering me right now

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Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 04:00:07 No.45812485 Report

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>>45804841
>female player characters receive 30% less money upon winning a match

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 04:36:01 No.45812732 Report

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>>45804015
>Ghosts are immune to all physical attacks.
>Surf kills Charizard instantly by extinguishing its tail
>Item that causes Eternatus to enter continuous Eternamax form while held
>Water types are immune to Electric attacks unless dual-type, reflecting how pure water is an insulator
>If while Surfing, your Pokémon that's using Surf gets KO'd, you drown

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 04:40:05 No.45812757 Report

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>Elite 4 + Champion are all Sky Battles

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 04:43:10 No.45812765 Report

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>>45804015
>If your Speed is more than a certain threshold above the opponent's, you get to attack twice

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 07:32:23 No.45813506 Report

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>>45804015
Surf causes anything that gets hit to have their ability changed to Damp

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 07:46:18 No.45813573 Report

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burn lowers special attack too

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 08:28:49 No.45813752 Report

Quoted By: >>45813770

>>45804015
Rain lowers Flying-Type's Speed by half
Bug is now resisted by Rock, Ice and Psychic
Every type now has it's own Stealth Rocks equivalent, and they can all stack with eachother
Rapid Spin and Defog no longer removes hazards
Rapid Spin has a 50% of confusing the user
Monotype Pokemon do 2x damage w/ their STAB
Grass is no longer supereffective towards Ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 08:36:08 No.45813770 Report

Quoted By: >>45814683

>>45813752
>Bug is now resisted by Rock, Ice and Psychic
wut

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 12:11:08 No.45814484 Report

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>>45810922
Hell, just make it so fire types can't hold items because they'd just burn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 12:24:25 No.45814522 Report

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Aqua ring is a leftover that heals allies on your side of the heal and only can be removed by defog or 5t turns pass.
>>45804079

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 13:05:36 No.45814683 Report

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>>45813770
Rock, Ice and Psychic now resist Bug-Type attacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 13:10:34 No.45814707 Report

Quoted By:

>>45804329
I see we have a Mystery Dungeon fan here

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 14:53:48 No.45815167 Report

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>>45804015
>Dual-types deal 2.5x damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 19:20:54 No.45817157 Report

Quoted By: >>45818746 >>45819099

Swarm now buffs all bug moves by 10%
This stacks with each party member that has the ability, up to a max of 60%

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 23:24:14 No.45818746 Report

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>>45817157
That actually sounds pretty rad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 00:11:36 No.45819099 Report

Quoted By: >>45820151

>>45817157
>U-Turn spam gets buffed on every team with a Volcarona

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 00:43:20 No.45819358 Report

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>>45804079
>grass Knot can be disabled by sending out a light-weight Flamebody pokemon

thats kinda cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 02:36:47 No.45820151 Report

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>>45819099
at least it gives a reason to run swarm over other abilities, and it'd only be a 10% buff if Volcarona is the only one with swarm

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 03:07:07 No.45820310 Report

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>When you send out a Regi, both players' screens turn black to simulate blindness

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 04:40:56 No.45820748 Report

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>>45804015
All three posts in this image are correct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 06:10:52 No.45821153 Report

Quoted By: >>45821227

>>45804079
This, and ice body disables contact fire moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 06:25:52 No.45821227 Report

Quoted By: >>45821441

>>45821153
>If a Pokémon with Ice Body gets hit by fire, all its contact moves become water-type

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 07:14:16 No.45821441 Report

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>>45821227
>If a Pokemon with Flame Body or Magma Armor is targeted by an Ice type move, it becomes a Water type move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 13:46:09 No.45822393 Report

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>>45809957
What would they even do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 13:58:56 No.45822442 Report

Quoted By: >>45827269

-Legendaries all get their abilities replaced with Pressure except for roaming legendaries who just get Run Away.
-Orbeetle, Scolipede, etc get their evolution levels cranked down to fit in with all the other bug mons that are fully evolved before level 2, but also have their stats nerfed to discourage the player from steamrolling through the game with an early bug.
-Your Pokemon's friendship level is constantly lowering when you aren't using or playing with them. If it drops to 100 they will occasionally loaf around. If it drops below 50 they'll be disobedient more frequently. If it hits 0 they'll always give out a disobedient response and the only way to use them in battle again will be to give them friendship boosting items.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 16:58:54 No.45823323 Report

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Butterfree gets +10 Sp.Atk
Beedrill gets +10 Atk
Beautifly gets +10 Sp.Atk

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 20:07:52 No.45824706 Report

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>>45804367
honestly a pretty good way to balance fairy, since it makes fairy a more niche typing to block powerful attacking types, but gets checked by the most common typing in the game. At least it might stop Fairy 2 from getting introduced in 5 years

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 01:54:07 No.45827269 Report

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>>45822442
>-Legendaries all get their abilities replaced with Pressure except for roaming legendaries who just get Run Away.
Wow, that actually is shitty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 01:58:33 No.45827305 Report

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>>45804092
No, that's a good change. If anything, it should be immune to water so this stupid shit type finally has a proper counter and ice Pokémon a niche.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 03:11:35 No.45827911 Report

Quoted By: >>45828067 >>45828344

>>45804047
But how many layers of stealth rock can you set up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 03:28:37 No.45828067 Report

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>>45827911
32

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 04:18:00 No.45828344 Report

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>>45827911

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 04:20:11 No.45828363 Report

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All moves have only 5 pp, pressure is banned to Ubers

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 05:26:12 No.45828669 Report

Quoted By: >>45829122 >>45829177 >>45829626

Hidden power comes back as a physical move, I want my bro scizor to have infinite 90 bp coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 06:53:16 No.45829122 Report

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>>45828669
Make it a separate move.
Call it Hidden Strength or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 07:07:22 No.45829177 Report

Quoted By: >>45829212

>>45828669
>90 bp
Hidden power only had 60bp, unless buffing HP was part of your plan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 07:16:09 No.45829212 Report

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>>45829177
technician, dummy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 09:38:49 No.45829626 Report

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>>45828669
>tfw no Slayer in Strive
why live

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 09:40:07 No.45829632 Report

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Give ice more weaknesses.
It doesn't matter what they are or if they even make sense.

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