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Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 02:12:03 No.45859899 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>45859909 >>45860812 >>45861002 >>45861117 >>45861118 >>45861459 >>45861497 >>45861644 >>45861667 >>45863612 >>45865179 >>45866713 >>45871002

Allow me to give sinnoh kids PTSD

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 02:13:36 No.45859909 Report

Quoted By: >>45859992 >>45860414 >>45869555

>>45859899
Never thought I'd see the day Garchomp got power creep'd the way he has.

Glad I stopped playing competitively in gen 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 02:25:03 No.45859992 Report

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>>45859909
poor fool never got to play the good metagames

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 03:30:26 No.45860414 Report

Quoted By: >>45860986

>>45859909
>Chomp
>Powercrept
Maybe when Zygarde was roaming around in gen 7, but by that point being outclassed by legendaries is nothing new. Chomp is still the king

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 04:35:39 No.45860812 Report

Quoted By: >>45863727 >>45865060

>>45859899
Minmaxed piece of shit. Why couldn't they drop some of my boy Hydreigon's useless attack and split it into speed and HP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 05:11:37 No.45860986 Report

Quoted By: >>45861110 >>45864920

>>45860414
Dragapult is better

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 05:14:42 No.45861002 Report

Quoted By: >>45861097 >>45863070 >>45863123 >>45865518 >>45866632

>>45859899
>Sneasel used Blizzard!
Nothing personal

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 05:33:51 No.45861097 Report

Quoted By: >>45861304 >>45863130 >>45863599

>>45861002
>Blizzard misses with it's shitty 70% accuracy
>Get's raped by iron head
>OHKO due to the 138 base atk plus EVs
>Will likely outspeed due to base 102 speed plus EV's.

Yeah buddy, like you are going to counter garchomp

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 05:34:57 No.45861102 Report

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>swinub used powder snow!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 05:35:55 No.45861110 Report

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>>45860986
They have different roles, dragapult wouldn't ever dare dream of running a bulky rocky helmet set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 05:36:53 No.45861117 Report

Quoted By: >>45861137 >>45861218 >>45861340 >>45866470

>>45859899
You know as I look at Garchomp's bulk I realize it has Corviknight level bulk stats. If it had a recovery move it could be a good wall or tank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 05:36:58 No.45861118 Report

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>>45859899
Flygon is cooler.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 05:41:40 No.45861137 Report

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>>45861117
DESU it is better to use swords dance, and sweep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 05:57:05 No.45861218 Report

Quoted By: >>45865232

>>45861117
You can use it defensively in sand. Shit is annoying as fuck with sand veil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 06:15:22 No.45861304 Report

Quoted By: >>45861311 >>45861639 >>45862619

>>45861097
>Weavile used Ice Punch.
>Garchomp lives with Focus Sash
>Garchomp used Iron head
>Weavile lives with Focus Sash
>Weavile used Ice Shard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 06:16:51 No.45861311 Report

Quoted By: >>45861327

>>45861304
Rough Skin GG

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 06:19:18 No.45861327 Report

Quoted By: >>45861337

>>45861311
Ice shard doesn't make contact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 06:20:38 No.45861337 Report

Quoted By: >>45861623

>>45861327
Ice punch would nullify your sash because of rocky helm dumbass

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 06:20:59 No.45861340 Report

Quoted By: >>45863617

>>45861117
Defensive Garchomp is already a thing, you know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 06:40:02 No.45861459 Report

Quoted By:

>>45859899
102 speed is troll tier
What were they thinking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 06:46:37 No.45861497 Report

Quoted By: >>45861622 >>45866562

>>45859899
Does Garchomp have the best stat distribution ever?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 07:15:06 No.45861622 Report

Quoted By: >>45862438

>>45861497
I maintain to this day that Garchomp has the most aesthetic stat distribution of all time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 07:15:22 No.45861623 Report

Quoted By: >>45861639

>>45861337
Once again Ice Shard does not make contact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 07:21:18 No.45861639 Report

Quoted By: >>45867191

>>45861623
Anon says it because >>45861304 said:
>Weavile used Ice punch
So, with Rough Skin, Weavile's Focus Sash doesn't work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 07:22:23 No.45861644 Report

Quoted By: >>45861657

>>45859899
>Groudon used fissure!
>It's a one hit KO!
kneel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 07:25:19 No.45861657 Report

Quoted By: >>45861673

>>45861644
>Go out Hawlucha!
LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 07:28:35 No.45861667 Report

Quoted By: >>45861692

>>45859899
What so good is it with Scale Shot now? I want to use it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 07:30:42 No.45861673 Report

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>>45861657

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 07:35:44 No.45861692 Report

Quoted By: >>45869466

>>45861667
Ive used it a little and it works ok. The speed is nice and you can sweep sometimes. If all 5 hits connect you will probably kill something

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 08:16:54 No.45861877 Report

Quoted By: >>45862155

Why 102 speed specifically

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 09:28:20 No.45862155 Report

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>>45861877
Base 100 is the most crowded speed tier.
102 not only lets Garchomp outspeed mons with 100 speed, but also outspeed mons with 101 speed who were designed to outspeed 100 speed mons.
Although the only mons with 101 speed worth outspeeding are Landorus-I and Thundurus-T. Garchomp could've gotten away with 101 base speed and that last point could've been put to better use, like in HP.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 10:56:13 No.45862438 Report

Quoted By: >>45863683

>>45861622
I think Zacian's might be better.
Even when scaled down to ~600 (divide every stat by 7.2, then multiply by 6), it still looks sexy as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 11:46:21 No.45862619 Report

Quoted By:

>>45861304
rough skin retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 13:36:53 No.45863070 Report

Quoted By: >>45867130

>>45861002
>blizzard weavile

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 13:48:41 No.45863123 Report

Quoted By:

>>45861002
>LE BOGEYMON HAVE 4X WEAKNESS SO IT BAD!!!! LOL!!!111"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 13:51:10 No.45863130 Report

Quoted By: >>45863381

>>45861097
>102 speed is somehow faster than 125 speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 14:33:11 No.45863381 Report

Quoted By: >>45863599

>>45863130
Even if you do ice punch garchomp it has yache berry

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 15:14:06 No.45863599 Report

Quoted By:

>>45863381
>>45861097
252 Atk Choice Band Weavile Triple Axel (40 BP) (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Garchomp: 1308-1548 (366.3 - 433.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
this is the standard mixed pebbles set

252 Atk Choice Band Weavile Triple Axel (40 BP) (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Garchomp: 1164-1380 (277.1 - 328.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
This is the tank set

252 Atk Choice Band Weavile Triple Axel (40 BP) (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Yache Berry Garchomp: 582-690 (138.5 - 164.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Juust in case you want to argue yache berry, now kneel to the weasel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 15:16:26 No.45863612 Report

Quoted By:

>>45859899
Abomasnow, ice this motherfucker.
Just doing my job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 15:17:33 No.45863617 Report

Quoted By: >>45865383

>>45861340
Yeah but even Ferrothorn has Leech Seed to heal back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 15:27:09 No.45863683 Report

Quoted By: >>45867195 >>45868923

>>45862438
>divide by 7.2 then multiply by 6
Why not just multiply by 0.833...?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 15:32:21 No.45863727 Report

Quoted By:

>>45860812
Thats not minmaxed at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 18:33:53 No.45864920 Report

Quoted By:

>>45860986
Why does /vp/ love spouting random garbage that is clearly not true? You don't even have to play OU much to figure out this is wrong. Both usage and ranking clearly show that people think Garchomp is better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 18:53:39 No.45865060 Report

Quoted By: >>45865662

>>45860812
Lol how is that minmaxed? It's got a fuckhigh bst that lets it have good attack, good speed, good bulk, the only thing it's lacking in is special attack and even that isn't really that low. I can empathize with you as a Hydreigon fan though, imagine if its attack and speed were switched.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 19:06:48 No.45865137 Report

Quoted By:

>An OU Gen IV mon is now a Gen VIII NU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 19:13:13 No.45865179 Report

Quoted By:

>>45859899
I'm not a smogon fag, what does this mean

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 19:17:51 No.45865219 Report

Quoted By: >>45865511 >>45866597

>All the idiots ITT saying "bro just use ice attack"
Easy to spot newfags who didn't know about the good ass Yache Berry Chomp from gen 4.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 19:19:39 No.45865232 Report

Quoted By:

>>45861218
WHY THE F U C K ISN'T SAND VEIL BANNED DUE TO THE EVASION CLAUSE

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 19:36:03 No.45865351 Report

Quoted By: >>45867143

Did scalefaggots ever recover from Fairy? Its been 8 years, are they still seething?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 19:39:41 No.45865383 Report

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>>45863617
not every defensive pokemon needs recovery tard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 20:06:41 No.45865511 Report

Quoted By:

>>45865219
Keep Calm and Follow Me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 20:08:06 No.45865518 Report

Quoted By:

>>45861002
>blizzard
>no ice punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 20:32:17 No.45865662 Report

Quoted By: >>45866392 >>45870995

>>45865060
You literally just explained why its minmaxed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 22:42:25 No.45866392 Report

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>>45865662
What are you talking about, there is no min. Garchomp is basically all maxed because of its high bst, and a slightly better distribution than something similar like Hydreigon. Pheromosa is minmaxed, not chomp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 22:53:29 No.45866470 Report

Quoted By:

>>45861117
yeah give it shore up desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 22:55:07 No.45866483 Report

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>snorunt used powder snow!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 23:08:29 No.45866562 Report

Quoted By: >>45867117 >>45869203

>>45861497
>just about outspeeds base 100 mons
>130 attack
>very high hp and decent defenses, having more natural bulk than swampert (as if that's relevant anymore but was back in gen 4)
>useable special attack
kino

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 23:13:42 No.45866597 Report

Quoted By: >>45867097

>>45865219
252+ Atk Choice Band Weavile Ice Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Yache Berry Garchomp: 398-470 (111.1 - 131.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Weavilebros, how do we keep winning?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 23:18:09 No.45866632 Report

Quoted By:

>>45861002
The meta was Ice Punch you retard.
Gen 4 sets did not run Iron Head either.

Go away fucking zoomer shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 23:30:39 No.45866713 Report

Quoted By:

>>45859899
It's my favorite pokemon by far but I feel weird using it because it'll always be Cynthia's ace in my mind

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 00:36:04 No.45867097 Report

Quoted By: >>45867145

>>45866597
>Adamant Weavile

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 00:39:06 No.45867117 Report

Quoted By:

>>45866562
it it flying using farts or someting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 00:40:38 No.45867130 Report

Quoted By:

>>45863070
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 00:42:52 No.45867143 Report

Quoted By: >>45869479 >>45871077

>>45865351
They're still doing well. Fairy never fulfill its intended Dragon slayer role and instead sideline Fighting and Bug types

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 00:43:04 No.45867145 Report

Quoted By:

>>45867097
>still ohko if jolly

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 00:49:43 No.45867191 Report

Quoted By: >>45869461

>>45861639
It didn’t have rough skin in gen iv dumb cunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 00:50:48 No.45867195 Report

Quoted By:

>>45863683
It’s literally the same thing but written so people can understand where it comes from. Cunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 05:42:19 No.45868923 Report

Quoted By:

>>45863683
That's what I punched into the calculator. I was just explaining my rationale.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 07:11:53 No.45869203 Report

Quoted By:

>>45866562
Bros I want a Garchomp bf that smiles at me like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 08:43:47 No.45869461 Report

Quoted By:

>>45867191
At no time did we say it was IV gen, idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 08:46:40 No.45869466 Report

Quoted By: >>45870039

>>45861692
Awsome, but does it need Sword Dance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 08:49:31 No.45869479 Report

Quoted By:

>>45867143
>Fairy never fulfill its intended Dragon slayer role
No, it does it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 09:18:44 No.45869555 Report

Quoted By: >>45870959

>>45859909
>Garchomp got power creep'd
#5 in OU on the latest fanfic meta report

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 12:09:24 No.45870039 Report

Quoted By:

>>45869466
Does it need it? No.
Does it want it? Absolutely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 15:29:42 No.45870959 Report

Quoted By:

>>45869555
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 15:35:23 No.45870995 Report

Quoted By:

>>45865662
Minmaxed could be if special attack was at 40

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 15:36:25 No.45871002 Report

Quoted By:

>>45859899
Now take a look at the highest BST's of the total mons up to Gen V.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 15:53:22 No.45871077 Report

Quoted By:

>>45867143
Only Fighting was affected as Bug was always shit with a switching move as it's only saving grace

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