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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 19:32:07 No.45896698 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>45896715 >>45897387 >>45897489 >>45897550 >>45897654 >>45897709 >>45897727 >>45897964

Could it be fixed to become a proper boss fight and if so how ought it be done?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 19:33:30 No.45896711 Report

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yeah. give it a status immunity, let its psychic attacks penetrate darkness's immunity, and nullify refresh bonuses for the battle. also lock the trainer out of using healing items

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 19:33:43 No.45896715 Report

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>>45896698
Just make a seperate version of necrozma with higher defense.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 21:17:10 No.45897387 Report

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>>45896698
It can't because game fuck doesn't want to break the formula in any way.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 21:20:18 No.45897413 Report

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Yeah as a raid boss

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 21:26:26 No.45897444 Report

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>>45897413
This. It's obvious Gamefreak looked at how people were cheesing the Ultra Necrozma fight and made sure the Max Raid bosses had counter measures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 21:33:09 No.45897483 Report

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>>45897444
I had to cheese it. I was playing the game normally and then all of a sudden hit this brick wall that just filters the shit out of me. I stopped playing the game for like, a year. Every now and then I'd pick it up to see why and remember instantly.

One day I taught my Gliscor Toxic and just hot swapped until it died.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 21:34:29 No.45897489 Report

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>>45896698
Do the same thing mystery dungeon does, give it an HP boost just for that fight

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 21:43:31 No.45897550 Report

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>>45896698
Yes, and it can be done without making it a raid fight, as Ultra Necrozma is clearly meant to be evocative of a Totem fight. Just do the following:
>It recovers from status conditions on it's own
>Increased Health
>Destiny Bond, Perish Song, etc fail for the fight
>Halfway through the fight it will heal itself back up ala Full Restore

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 21:57:23 No.45897654 Report

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>>45896698
It would be cool to have a boss that changes moveset through the battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 22:03:13 No.45897709 Report

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>>45896698
Pokemon's base game experience and combat system aren't compatible with a "serious" boss fight.

100% of the PVE, non-battle-tower gameplay outside of ultra Necrozma encourages you to make a balanced team of offensive Pokemon.

How do you "legitimately" beat an uber with 150% to all of its non-HP stats before you can even get BP items? You bring its counters or you bring overleveled Pokemon. Neither is really interesting or engaging. Like honestly, I think toxic stalling is more creative than "just level everything to 70+ before the postgame lol"

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 22:05:39 No.45897727 Report

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>>45896698
This again?

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 22:29:34 No.45897931 Report

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>>45897709
They kind of did it right already with the other bosses (in USUM more than in SM). Making a totem pokémon summon allies adds more things to take in consideration, just like a standard gym leader battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 22:32:50 No.45897964 Report

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>>45896698
There'snothing to fix. Its already the best boss fight of the whole series (also the hrdest objectively)
>>45897387
>sameffagging because you have an opinion even the board disagrees
changing the router means nothing if you circlejerk anyway op

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 22:34:08 No.45897978 Report

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>>45897964
Its an unanimously good thing from newer games, so they gotta spam otherwise to force the kiddies to think theyre meant to hate it anon. Its like qanon but for autistic teenagers instead of rednecks, just repeat a lie and the dum dums will repeat it for you later

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