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>>45903912
>People want something new without another Mega / Dynamax like gimmick so new type makes sense
>People want to relive Fairy type announcement hype
>People want new type to balance out existing types, depends if its a success
>People want to fill the nieche for specific theming and make existing mons make more sense, again, not always works

>>45903947
True. Rock and Ground really should've just been a single type originally.

Just like with fakemons, fake types is just one of these things you will either hate or post and defend everywhere. Instead of trying to rationalise them or spam as many different new types as possible to convince more anons, I just wish that more people went in more creative direction with them, post more fakemon/fake regional variants of this type, post some move ideas, actually stick with one type that doesn't sound dumb like Punch type.
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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 18:11:12 No.45904072 Report

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>>45904042
>old school film reels
>Cyber

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 18:13:08 No.45904090 Report

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>>45903912
based take op

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 18:15:33 No.45904107 Report

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>>45903912
Just like steel, dark and fairy

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 18:16:46 No.45904112 Report

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Autism and/or a lack of understanding of game design. Mostly their children who don't get that their idea is not original or can be better implemented by another game mechanic (ex. Sound).

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 18:35:34 No.45904250 Report

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>>45904072
I think it's based on digitalization of old films.
Or in its case, recording films (and souls) in general.

Outside of maybe Normal type I don't really think there's a type that could capture (not intended) this theme even if it's a stretch here.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 18:41:51 No.45904304 Report

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>>45904072
I thought it's based on digitalization/remaking of old films. While its a stretch, but I don't really think there's other type that could 'capture' this theme, maybe outside of normal type, which is even a bigger stretch.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 19:00:30 No.45904426 Report

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>>45903912
O

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 19:01:37 No.45904441 Report

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>>45903912
>condom-type

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 19:03:05 No.45904447 Report

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>>45904042
>People want to relive Fairy type announcement hype
what was hype about that trainwreck of type i cucked dragons harder than ice and made with steel the ultimate defense typing also krypunk lost ist no weakness gimmik

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 19:11:54 No.45904505 Report

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>>45904042
>People want to relive Fairy type announcement hype
Worst thing gen 6 added by a Longshot. I fucking hate fairy type

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 19:23:26 No.45904575 Report

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>>45903912
Cosmic falls under the psychic type
Light falls under the fairy type
Magic is psychic and or fairy
Sound is electric
Hero is basically fighting
Digital is electric

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:02:59 No.45904848 Report

Quoted By: >>45904959 >>45904982 >>45905031

>>45904575
Let's go a step further shall we?
Rock, Grass and Ground folded into Nature type.
Turn Fire, Ice and Water into Elemental type.
Steel and Electric into Artificial type.
Dragon, Fairy and Psychic type into Myth type.
And (You) are basically a Retarted type

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:18:07 No.45904950 Report

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>>45904304
I think its clear that these are not code fed into a Tron-like machine to convert it into a printed being, like Porygon.

So how do they interact with the real world? Tangible Holograms?

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:19:09 No.45904959 Report

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>>45904848
Harsh

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:21:00 No.45904968 Report

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>>45903912
>built around absorbing and reflecting damage
>tanky as fuck
you might as well call it BDSM type

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:22:14 No.45904975 Report

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>rubber type
Sounds kinky

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:23:02 No.45904982 Report

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>>45904848
Rock and ground should absolutely be the same type tho fucking mongoloid
>>45904848

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:23:28 No.45904986 Report

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>>45904975
imagine a rubber snakedomme that attacks by using its tail as a whip

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:25:30 No.45904996 Report

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>>45903912
One of the best types out there.

>Weird, yet, distinct and well known properties - weak to Heat - resists Blunt force & Electricity.

>It can be found in nature

>If it encompasses plastic as well, it can be inspired by microplastics polluting the earth, water, and the air. Not farfetched for newer species to utilise this resilient compound in their shell.

>inb4 Poison type. Poison types never made sense, bodywise. But also its a toxin&quil type rather than hard synthetic shell type.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:27:43 No.45905009 Report

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>>45904982
Nope....Ground types are mostly tough Normal types. So they should be turned into Normal types.

Then Rock needs to expand to include the few weird claymons, and the sand/mud attacks.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:27:59 No.45905011 Report

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>>45903947
>Rock and Ground should have been one type
>Water and Ice may as well have been one type back in Gen 1 but weren't because they wanted Ice to be a lategame shitter type whose sole niche is being super effective against the Penultimate Boss' special snowflake Dragon type whose line no one else in the game really uses
>Ghost and Dark are horribly redundant in regards to "the psychic killer" type

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:28:56 No.45905017 Report

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>>45903912
Wobbufett would be retyped psychic/rubber then?

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:31:40 No.45905031 Report

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>>45904848
No not retarded, anyone wanting 30 different subtypes when it can be classified as a typing that we already have is retarded

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:34:46 No.45905053 Report

Quoted By: >>45905101

The only type I am in support of is a digital or artificial type.

>Porygon
>Trubbish
>Voltorb
>Golett/Golurk
>Klink
>we could finally get a robot pokemon
>maybe an evil team makes a whole bunch of artificial pokemon to gain control

It could be a good type to counter fairy, ghost, really any type having to do with magic.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:40:43 No.45905100 Report

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>>45903912
>never work balance-wise
>thematically they always suck
So literally like official Pokémon types? Bug, dragon, “flying”, normal, ground/rock, etc are all headpants retarded and contribute to more type bloat than the majority of fan types would.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:40:49 No.45905101 Report

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>>45905053
Tangible Holograms
Circuit based creatures
Spirits controlling objects
Sentient object yokai

These are all way too different

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:44:38 No.45905129 Report

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>>45905011
If one of them was about shadows(dark) and the other one was about death(ghost), then it would be fine. But gamefreak is retarded so it’s evil(dark) and shadows(ghost). I always assumed water and ice exist solely so they can interact with fire differently, but that’s still retarded. This is why dungeons and dragons calls it cold and not ice. Rock and ground existing is indefensible though.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:48:12 No.45905154 Report

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>>45905100
Dark at least adds a flair necessary for RPGs, similar to Fairy. Ghost and Dragon being rare also helps a lot.
Flying works because both structurally, habitat, and attackwise.
But Fighting....what even is this? Buff? Martial arts? Chi? Why is it filled with abstractmons ? Should be merged with Psychic into a Focus type.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:50:11 No.45905163 Report

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Kind of already a thing because of Go, just imagine that pikachu ate a gomu gomu no mi

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:50:27 No.45905164 Report

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They need to bring back the ??? Typing and actually make pokemon and moves for it

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:51:23 No.45905171 Report

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>>45905164
Nah

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:51:54 No.45905174 Report

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>>45905129
Well Ground is a Buff Normal type that uses strong, yet mundane Earth related attacks. Any Normal type should be able to perform Ground type attacks.

Rock types are alien like, made entirely out of stone, or should be at least, and their attacks are like Earthbending, Geokinesis, magic etc

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:55:08 No.45905195 Report

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>>45904042
A cyber/artificial type is the most valid option left, sound is dumb cosmic is covered and holy/light would probably overlap with fairy.
And don’t greentext me with electric type because not everything cyber-related could fit into a type about shocking and zapping. That’d be like saying ice types should be water.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:56:03 No.45905202 Report

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>>45905164
>bring back the ??? Typing
is it gone now with the move culling?

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 20:59:57 No.45905219 Report

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>>45905202
??? was removed outright in Gen 5 by merit of being a type with zero actual use, seeing as how they changed Curse to a Ghost move and stopped displaying types for eggs.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 21:00:12 No.45905222 Report

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>>45905195
cyber is covered by steel and electric

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 21:03:59 No.45905238 Report

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>>45903912
>rely on counter moves that require them to be hit first
>fast
This wasn't thought out very well.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 21:07:27 No.45905254 Report

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>>45905222
>Trojan Horse Pokemon
>Cyber/Dark
>Tricks predators outside of cyberspace into thinking its a regular horse pokemon then attacks with beams of infected code, altering their genetic makeup into an easily consumable form.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 21:19:34 No.45905327 Report

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>>45905202
They axed in in gen 6 when fairy type became a thing.

My guess is it was only ever a thing to serve as padding, computers rely on binary so the most optimal numbers to work with are powers of 2, back in gen 1 we had 15 types so there would be one bit unused in the 2 bytes dedicated to bitflags for typing. I've never personally looked at the gen 1 code but from what I've seen in pkhex and this chart here it looks like each pokemon would have stored its types that way and the game would just check to see which bits were turned on to determine the pokemon's type combination, this would also allow for weird instances of glitches where too many or no flags were on causing the game to pull a value for the type(s) that was never meant to be encountered in the final game like missingno's bird type if they were left in the look-up table since theoretically using 2 bytes a single pokemon could have 16 types or certain combinations of 3 or more flags being turned on could have at some point been used to represent more types that got scrapped at some point.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 21:21:19 No.45905344 Report

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I would unironically have the Rubber type be real over shit like Light/Sound or Beast type

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 21:25:46 No.45905365 Report

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>>45905171
>>45905202
>>45905219
>>45905327
I honeswould mind if they retconed the "???" Type into a "Weird" type that was weak against everyone but also super effective against everyone,

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 21:28:04 No.45905387 Report

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>>45903912
People suck at it. I remember when people were trying to push "Sound" type which was fucking retarded.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 21:57:52 No.45905621 Report

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>>45905101
yet all are artificial and could easily have one of their types changed to artificial. Artificial pokemon have always been a staple in pokemon. Heck even grimer and muk are trash turned into living creatures through moonbeams.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 22:06:26 No.45905691 Report

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>>45905365
This. It'll never happen though, ultra beasts were the perfect chance and they didn't take it

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