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Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 15:05:43 No.45949220 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>45949339 >>45949381 >>45949405 >>45950742 >>45951425 >>45951770 >>45952121 >>45952378

>W-wait Red..
>I just remembered that I have Charmander..
>I'm a nice guy now and I'm gonna disband Team Rocket that I have been building for years
>please forgive me, Charmanderino showed me the light
>Red: lol ok wholesome XD
What were they fucking thinking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 15:12:40 No.45949258 Report

Quoted By: >>45949266 >>45951000 >>45951558 >>45951670

Gen 1 has a shit plot, fuck did you expect?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 15:13:44 No.45949266 Report

Quoted By: >>45949339 >>45949348 >>45950468 >>45951505

>>45949258
This shit plot only happened in Origins
in the main games Giovanni simply fucked off without mentioning any pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 15:24:08 No.45949339 Report

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>>45949220
>>45949266
Imagine having some vidya-based anime live rent free in your low-iq autistic head.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 15:26:01 No.45949348 Report

Quoted By: >>45949354 >>45949408 >>45949497 >>45950401 >>45950486 >>45951324 >>45951505

>>45949266
Play the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 15:27:02 No.45949354 Report

Quoted By: >>45949378

>>45949348
what pokemon he mentioned there?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 15:31:05 No.45949378 Report

Quoted By: >>45949388 >>45949497

>>45949354
None. Just like he didn't mention any Pokemon in Origins either.
Or are we conveniently forgetting how cucked Red's Charmander was in the first three episodes?
>loses pitifully to Blue's Squirtle
>only barely gets the kill on a weakened Onix
>overshadowed by Red's Jolteon throughout the entirety of Pokemon Tower
>gets fucking rekt by Giovanni's Nidoqueen
Don't get me wrong. Origins is a fucking retarded Charizard commercial, but the pandering didn't even really start until the last quarter.
You can hate it all you want; you're entitled to that. It was still way better and more engaging than the ashnime.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 15:32:14 No.45949381 Report

Quoted By: >>45950670

>>45949220

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 15:32:38 No.45949382 Report

Quoted By: >>45950370 >>45953770

>Having lost in this fashion, I can't face my followers. I have betrayed their trust. As of today, MAGA is finished forever! As for myself, I shall dedicate my life to golfing again. Let us meet again someday! Farewell!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 15:33:44 No.45949388 Report

Quoted By: >>45949402

>>45949378
he had a flashback of him as a kid having a charmander, which played towards him turning into a good guy

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 15:36:19 No.45949402 Report

Quoted By: >>45949414 >>45949497 >>45951520

>>45949388
Yes. What's wrong with making the godawful scriptwriting in the original make sense by fleshing out his character more?
We sure as hell know GameFreak isn't doing it. They didn't even change that part of his dialogue in LGPE. Hell, Giovanni isn't even allowed to have Honchkrow as his ace anymore.
You may not like that it doesn't fit your autistic headcanon of Giovanni, but it certainly does fit how the script interpreted him. Your autistic posting of this shit every day for 8 years ends here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 15:36:33 No.45949405 Report

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>>45949220
OP, you're schizophrenic.
Take you meds and stop spamming these threads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 15:37:02 No.45949408 Report

Quoted By: >>45949426

>>45949348
>play the game
>literally not one mention of Charmander
I can’t be sure if I should tell you learn how to reading comprehension or learn how conversations and arguments work, either way...I can’t be certain you won’t be too retarded to understand this post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 15:38:05 No.45949414 Report

Quoted By: >>45949426

>>45949402
the fact that a big mafia boss with an organization strong enough to take parts of Kanto and cuck the police off turning into a soft guy because of a small flashback of Charmander is worse than fanfic writings

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 15:40:49 No.45949426 Report

Quoted By: >>45949497 >>45949584 >>45951535 >>45951836

>>45949408
Sorry-- watch the special then. He doesn't mention Charmander in there either.
For all we know, he probably didn't even have Charmander and the reason it was shown was to draw parallels between Red and Giovanni.
Digimon did the same shit with the "original Digidestined"
>>45949414
I agree, unfortunately, that's exactly how bad the writing in the game was though so I think it's a welcome addition to try and make sense of how out of character it was for him. Just self insert Squirtle if you started with it or Bulbasaur if you did that. Red started with Charmander in Origins so those are the animations they re-used; we know it's no different in the games even if you defeat him having chosen another starter.
Anyway pic related, this is the same tactic other animes use and it's just as lazy if not even more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 15:49:09 No.45949497 Report

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>>45949348
>>45949378
>>45949402
>>45949426
Originscrybaby irrevocably, unequivocally BTFO
I didn't even like Origins, i'm just sick of the shitty meme that doesn't even reflect how the games or special were at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 16:04:07 No.45949584 Report

Quoted By: >>45949665

>>45949426
Yeah...except you need to actually read the OP, it isn’t about mentioning shit, it is about Giovanni remembering he had a Charmander...which is the case, you just decided it was about mentioning anything because that is what you wanted it to be about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 16:15:16 No.45949665 Report

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>>45949584
Nice cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 17:48:48 No.45950370 Report

Quoted By:

>>45949382
Goodbye Trump-sama, I'm not American but I never found him annoying

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 17:54:41 No.45950401 Report

Quoted By:

>>45949348
I can't see any Charmander either

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 18:04:32 No.45950468 Report

Quoted By: >>45950474

>>45949266
Imagine being a stupid kid that doesn't read,kys pleasee.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 18:05:21 No.45950474 Report

Quoted By: >>45950478 >>45950486

>>45950468
Imagine being a stupid kid that didn't play the games but trying too hard to defend a shitty fanfic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 18:06:10 No.45950478 Report

Quoted By: >>45950490

>>45950474
Imagine being an anon that didn't play the games or watch the special but will call both a fanfic in order to defend his shitty headcanon of a poorly-written mafia boss.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 18:07:04 No.45950486 Report

Quoted By: >>45951596

>>45950474
>>45949348
proved you wrong. By all means keep shitposting with your trash bait. >BUT IT DOESN'T MENTION CHAMANDER!!!!!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 18:07:22 No.45950490 Report

Quoted By:

>>45950478
been playing pokemon since Red in the 90s
now eat a dick and fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 18:27:40 No.45950670 Report

Quoted By:

>>45949381
Charizard...easy on the spotlight

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 18:34:33 No.45950742 Report

Quoted By:

>>45949220
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU AUTISTIC FUCKER LET IT GO
WE FUCKING GET IT AND AGREE WITH YOU, ORIGINS SUCKS ASS
STOP THINKING ABOUT THIS 7 YEAR OLD MINI SERIES AND STOP SPAMMING THESE FUCKING THREADS FOR FUCKS SAKE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 19:05:36 No.45951000 Report

Quoted By: >>45951020 >>45951036 >>45951068

>>45949258
Name 1 mainline Pokemon game with a good plot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 19:08:01 No.45951020 Report

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>>45951000
get ready to get wrecked, boy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 19:09:20 No.45951036 Report

Quoted By: >>45951425

>>45951000
Gen 5 because it took the care to have (vanilla) character arcs and it raised the question of something a lot of people joked about in regards to Pokemon as slaves, even if Ghetsis was a hypocrite
Gen 6 because the villain team's motivations actually make sense and Kalos does a good job of subtly showing you the class indifference and how things can be fought over when there isn't enough (like the mega ring)
Vanilla SM because even if it does it in the worst way possible, Lillie still does have a basic character arc and Lusamine had enough shock value to be a decent villain even if her motives just boil down to insanity and jellyfish toxins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 19:12:31 No.45951068 Report

Quoted By: >>45951096 >>45951425

>>45951000
Gen 5 and Gen 7 games have good plot
>inb4 nooo don't count because I say so

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 19:15:24 No.45951096 Report

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>>45951068
Can you blame him? This board shills USUM and the plot in that game only makes sense if you already know what went down in the originals.
"People" also have started to hate on BW and XY for no reason now, so that's convenient.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 19:38:49 No.45951324 Report

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>>45949348
Isn't it interesting how he said in the originals he was going to study Pokemon and is going to train in the remakes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 19:48:59 No.45951425 Report

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>>45951068
It doesn't count because the plot isn't good, so you're lying.
>>45951036
No, the plot it's shit. Literally "muh evil dude want world domination using good dude" cliche.
>>45949220
That's not what is happen, and no, he didn't disband Team Rocket, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 19:57:14 No.45951505 Report

Quoted By: >>45951596

>>45949348
Based retard.
>>45949266
This. Plot in first games aren't shoved in your face, like the Mewtwo lore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 19:58:34 No.45951520 Report

Quoted By: >>45955724

>>45949402
>Giovanni isn't even allowed to have Honchkrow as his ace anymore
That was never canon, and that's good, because Honchkrow don't make any sense as a Murkrow evo, since the firststage is a fucking witch. Even the tail it's a broom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 19:59:35 No.45951535 Report

Quoted By: >>45951596

>>45949426
Are zoomer really incapable to read?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 20:01:24 No.45951558 Report

Quoted By:

>>45949258
FPBP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 20:03:06 No.45951574 Report

Quoted By: >>45951595

>Giovanniposter so BTFO he's desperately trying to cling to his delusions after someone called him out using the game itself

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 20:05:09 No.45951595 Report

Quoted By: >>45951596

>>45951574
>t. didn't play the games but still defending a fanfic desperately

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 20:05:31 No.45951596 Report

Quoted By: >>45951661

>>45950486
>>45951505
>>45951535
He doesn't even mention Charmander in Origins either.
>>45951595
That's OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 20:11:42 No.45951661 Report

Quoted By: >>45951732

>>45951596
Giovanni had a flashback of young him having a Charmander then he started "omg i'm wrong" then became a nice guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 20:12:43 No.45951670 Report

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>>45949258
You just proved you haven't even played it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 20:18:31 No.45951732 Report

Quoted By: >>45951751

>>45951661
Yes, to make it seem like Giovanni was more like the protag at one point because there's no other explanation for the
>hurr durr i'm defeated I will now become a good trainer!
without really stretching things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 20:19:47 No.45951751 Report

Quoted By: >>45951796

>>45951732
in the games he had no flashback, in the origins a flashback of charmander is what made him be a nice guy

learn the fucking difference

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 20:21:21 No.45951770 Report

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>>45949220
>please forgive me, Charmanderino showed me the light
Always makes me laugh haha

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 20:24:22 No.45951796 Report

Quoted By: >>45951810

>>45951751
In the games he just became a good guy for no reason
In the special, they gave him a reason for turning into a good guy so it didn't seem so fucking retarded.
Hamfisted? Sure. But you can't blame them for trying. How would you make Mr. "Pokemon are only for business and nothing more" suddenly turn into a nice, law abiding citizen for no reason other than he just got beat by a kid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 20:25:22 No.45951810 Report

Quoted By: >>45951836

>>45951796
>In the games he just became a good guy for no reason
no the reason is that losing to Red twice made him change
in Origins, Red's pose and Charmander made him change

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 20:27:51 No.45951836 Report

Quoted By: >>45952222

>>45951810
>oh no, he defeated me two times... if he does it again I might have to suddenly become good!!
Yeah, sure thing. Let's just ignore how they did nothing but re-use animations for that scene like >>45949426 put and even if you don't have Charmander he still turns good for no reason in the games. Makes sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 20:59:48 No.45952121 Report

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>>45949220
>W-wait Red..
>I just remembered that its the billionth time we are having this discussion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 21:01:47 No.45952152 Report

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>anime re-uses animations to get the plot across in a flashback in a way that shows parallels between the main character and villain
>anon re-uses the same argument in a thread in a way that shows parallels between him and a broken record player

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 21:09:41 No.45952222 Report

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>>45951836
Losing twice made him give up and realize he isn't strong as he believed and escaped to Johto.
That's better "lol your pose and Charizard made me a good guy xD"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2021 21:27:25 No.45952378 Report

Quoted By:

>>45949220
>>please forgive me, Charmanderino showed me the light
>>Red: lol ok wholesome XD
My sides

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 00:01:36 No.45953770 Report

Quoted By: >>45953922

>>45949382
And then his team took over the Twitter Tower to beg him to return

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 00:21:26 No.45953894 Report

Quoted By: >>45955879

It sounds like people have less of a problem with Origins showing a possible Giovanni redemption and more with the fact it involved Charmander

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 00:25:26 No.45953922 Report

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>>45953770
Then what? He shows up with Rainbow MAGA lead by other unlikely world leaders across time as they take over 4chan and Tesla in order to take over the world?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 04:29:59 No.45955724 Report

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>>45951520
Its a gangster retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 04:53:06 No.45955879 Report

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>>45953894
yeah, it’s obviously a shorthand for him realising he had more fun training Pokémon like Res than using them to make money but everyone latches onto it being a Charmander. No shit they’re gonna demonstrate similarities by showing things that are the same.

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