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>>45972433
They realized they'd make just as much money if they didn't try at all.
They were wrong, of course. They actually made MORE money by not trying at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 01:50:02 No.45972457 Report

Quoted By: >>45973348

Starters are so bad, still cant bring myself to use any of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 01:50:47 No.45972460 Report

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They had to squeeze every last ounce of soul they had left before 2016.
Alternatively, they tried too hard with the lore in Gen 6 and got burnt out when people immediately started screaming about retcons and decided to go full pandering for SM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 01:50:59 No.45972462 Report

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>>45972442
Why is this such a big deal for some people here? Do you have ADHD?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 01:52:33 No.45972474 Report

Quoted By: >>45972493

>>45972462
They have to stretch hard to find bad things regarding BW2 and that happens to be the low hanging fruit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 01:55:39 No.45972493 Report

Quoted By: >>45975399

>>45972474
This.
I can easily tolerate a shitty 10 minute tutorial for a side game when the rest of game is super fucking fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 02:02:35 No.45972550 Report

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>>45972433
because you buy the game anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 02:05:13 No.45972568 Report

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>>45972433
Because 20 million sales say they'll buy it anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 02:05:51 No.45972576 Report

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>>45972442
What? GF clearly tried with Pokestar Studios.
They failed, but they definitely tried.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 02:19:46 No.45972655 Report

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>>45972433
>why did they stop trying after this?
You know something, they honestly didn't. Gen 6 is honestly continuing off a lot of what gen 5 was going for, a more story oriented adventure. Gens 5 through 8 all put a lot of importance in side characters and their own stories, it's no longer solely your adventure, you have to see how the journey is changing your friends as well. So it's not really fair to say Gen 6 was the end when it's following Gen 5 so closely.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 02:27:50 No.45972698 Report

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>>45972433
It's backlash broke Masuda and he never recovered

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:07:16 No.45973348 Report

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>>45972457
If your not shit at the game you don't need a starter in your play through to begin with

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:13:45 No.45973394 Report

Quoted By: >>45975561

>>45972433
I really don't fucking know, the Gen 5 games were packed to the brim with big and small details that you don't really see or notice in later games. That's not saying that Gens 6 and 7 were anemic with content but nowhere near the level or creativity and daringness that Gen 5 presented. Gen 8 was the straw that broke the camel's back for me because it just lacked any sort of effort in part of the devs and felt like GF was rolling in with the punches more than they had ever before.

Unrelated tangent but I would really like a Pokemon game that doesn't follow the formula of a young trainer trying to become the champion of a region and also having to deal with evil teams and supernatural bullshit on the side. I've been playing too much Etrian Odyssey lately and was wonder if it was possible to translate some elements of that into Pokemon without losing the series' core identity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:14:30 No.45973401 Report

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smartphones I shit you not

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:18:03 No.45973436 Report

Quoted By: >>45973460

>>45972433
Please understand. 3D hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:20:38 No.45973460 Report

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>>45973436
3D actually is hard and is part of the reason for Gen 6's mediocrity. Was forgiving to them at first until the Battle Frontier incident occurred, which imo was the patient zero for the bullshit in the modern franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:21:51 No.45973469 Report

Quoted By: >>45973481

>>45972433
Because you grew up and Pokemon is a kid's game, so the games that came out when you were too old for the magic will always feel inferior

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:22:23 No.45973472 Report

Quoted By: >>45973493

>>45972433
Many reasons:
-Normalfags don't have a sense for quality, they only buy what is safe & popular (or nostalgia, reminds you of a certain region?)
-Also, they prefer 3D because of their simple-minded desire for realism so they were the ones responsible for the eventual end of Sprites
-GF kinda gave up trying anything with this franchise, Masuda is now a broken man who lost sight of any sort of vision for the series
-The TPC and Nintendo never cared to begin with, they just want as much money as possible with the least necessary effort possible
-The age of Smartphones and Gacha (aka gambling schemes to attract idiots) kinda ruined Pokémon like a cancer
-The fanbase itself degenerated because many normalfaggots from the first Pokemania wave are so obsessed with KANTOOO that they will can't see nor want to see anything else

TL;DR: Greed and Normalfaggotry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:23:38 No.45973481 Report

Quoted By: >>45973514

>>45973469
Mario, Zelda and Dragon Quest are all kid's games and there's no mass complaining about those.
Excusing shitty games as "it's for kids" just means you think kids don't deserve good games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:24:30 No.45973493 Report

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>>45973472
>-Normalfags don't have a sense for quality,
Yeah, you can tell by the number of retards here who lap up gen 4 and 5.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:25:32 No.45973505 Report

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>>45972433
Pic unrelated?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:26:17 No.45973512 Report

Quoted By: >>45973520 >>45973530

Because they refuse to get a studio more experienced with 3D to help them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:26:33 No.45973514 Report

Quoted By: >>45973529 >>45973542 >>45973896

>>45973481
Pokemon doesn't have mass complaining either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:27:34 No.45973520 Report

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>>45973512
Why would they get help with 3D when it's better than their 2D?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:28:57 No.45973529 Report

Quoted By: >>45973565

>>45973514
SWSH was released over a year ago and you still see people bitching about it every fucking day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:29:06 No.45973530 Report

Quoted By: >>45973560 >>45973868

>>45973512
Even the best 3D in the world won't fix the barren level design and absolute jokes of story and characters. Someone really needs to burn this old format to the ground because that's the only way I can see any good coming back to this franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:31:21 No.45973542 Report

Quoted By: >>45973553

>>45973514
Are you seriously saying there's no mass of people complaining about the current state of Pokemon?
You know, people like OP making threads about this very subject?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:32:21 No.45973553 Report

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>>45973542
>Are you seriously saying there's no mass of people complaining about the current state of Pokemon?
Yes. Get off reddit.

>You know, people like OP making threads about this very subject?
The same autists who exist for every new Pokemon game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:33:23 No.45973560 Report

Quoted By: >>45973580

>>45973530
>coming back

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:34:25 No.45973565 Report

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>>45973529
SS was released over a year ago and it's already the best selling Pokemon game since Pokemania.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:35:53 No.45973575 Report

Quoted By: >>45973727

>>45972433
I personally think they have always been trying, up until sun/moon, they may not have made the bar of the fans, but they were actually trying to make a good game, then they gave up and we got lets go and sw/sh and whatever is next.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:37:00 No.45973580 Report

Quoted By: >>45973636

>>45973560
Obviously there's something good about this franchise if it's created an entire board of autists that flock to every release

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:45:18 No.45973636 Report

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>>45973580
Ever since gen 4 for me the magic stopped being the games and became the world itself. There's a reason no other monster-collecting franchise comes close to Pokemon's sales and has such a fervent fanbase even amongst those trashing SwSh, it's because they created a magical world of adventure that has enraptured minds young and old for the last two and a half decades.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:53:23 No.45973692 Report

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>>45972433
They realized all they had to do was pander to genwunner manchildren

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:59:52 No.45973727 Report

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>>45973575
I agree in parts. We had some high highs and low lows in the sixth and seventh generation. There is passion, but the games don't feel like worthy successors of the franchise. In XY specially, the passion is still there and a lot of things were done, but the game needed more polish, exploration and postgame challenges and this tradition carried over to other games. ORAS had its good points with Dexnav and soaring, but its1x1 adaptation of the maps and refusal to bring the overall experience to Emerald levels brought it down. Sun and Moon had a great theme, story and characters if not for the obnoxious pacing of the cutscenes and the boring level design of the island areas that often felt uninspered and simplistic, it was also a shame that mega evolution was low key dropped in favor of Z-moves because they couldn't bother to actually work on 2 gimmicks at the same time.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:02:32 No.45973744 Report

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>>45972698
i like this image

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:16:37 No.45973828 Report

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>>45972698
>>45973744

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:23:00 No.45973868 Report

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>>45973530
>coming back
You poor optimistic anon. There is no coming back. This franchise if finished as far as quality is concerned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:23:10 No.45973870 Report

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>>45972698
>>45973744
>>45973828
Photos taken moments before disaster

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:24:37 No.45973880 Report

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>>45972442
Name one area in gens 6-8 that has that much detail and attention to it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:26:55 No.45973896 Report

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>>45973514
Yeah it does

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:27:13 No.45973897 Report

Quoted By: >>45973907

>>45973896
No it doesn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:28:16 No.45973905 Report

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>>45973880
Anistar City. What do I win?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:28:20 No.45973907 Report

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>>45973897
Sure, if you ignore twitter, reddit, 4chan, youtube and any other popular platform

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:30:34 No.45973920 Report

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>>45973907
ok, I checked twitter, reddit, 4chan, and youtube and it's all people screaming about how excited they are for diaper remakes. Where's the mass complaints?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:31:42 No.45973929 Report

Quoted By: >>45973941

>>45973920
Sword and Shield were trending just the other day because people are still complaining how bad they are two years later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:32:49 No.45973935 Report

Quoted By: >>45973941

>>45973920
Have you lived under a rock for 2 years?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:34:03 No.45973941 Report

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>>45973929
Diaper was trending just the other day because people still suck the franchise's cock

>>45973935
Nope. Have you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 10:17:55 No.45975209 Report

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>>45972433
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 10:40:29 No.45975322 Report

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At the release of the game all the normies jumped on the bandwagon and talked nothing but trash about it because of the Vanilluxe and Trubbish line, while clearly not having played the game at all. They never took note of the changing seasons, the fact that GF made over 100 new mons, great character designs, and a great soundtrack. Instead normies and game journalists at the time just shat over it because of the mons based off of real world items, ignoring the Grimer, Voltorb, Magnemite, and many of the mons in gen 1.
They followed it up with an even better for its sequel, packed with new areas to explore and new minigames. They added a mode to fight all of the past gym leaders and elite 4 members, a difficulty option, a feature that lets you catch N's mons if you have BW. The game journalists still shit on the game, even harder this time. It's no wonder Masuda doesn't give a fuck anymore. All that effort your team spends just to find out your customers just want dogshit down their throats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 10:56:20 No.45975377 Report

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>>45972442
Fpbp

>>45973880
Lumiose City. Wild areas. Crown Tundra/Isle of Armor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 11:01:08 No.45975399 Report

Quoted By: >>45975632

>>45972493
>>45972493
I guess your shit taste also allows you to tolerate ugly pixelated spritework, having to buy one specific version to unlock hard mode instead of easy mode after already beating the game, kanto rehashing, unbearably obnoxious and tedious cutscenes every 10 minutes, and so on and so forth

Unovabortions are an embarrassment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 11:05:03 No.45975413 Report

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>>45972442
Based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 11:07:02 No.45975424 Report

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gen 5 is garbage

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 11:08:42 No.45975430 Report

Quoted By: >>45975473

>>45972433
To me Pokémon ended with the N speech after beating Ghetsis

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 11:18:30 No.45975473 Report

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>>45975430
Same feel.

Nothing quite encapsulates that moment, nor the credits of accomplishment afterwards. You feel as if you actually made a difference in the world of Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 11:31:20 No.45975522 Report

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>tries to have its own Identity by not relying on recognizable pokemon from previous games, not a kantomon in sight until post game
>flops
>GF forced to damage control with sequel title filled with KANTOOOOOOO and Riolu as early as the first town
>it makes a bagillion dollars and Gen 5 is saved
>KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOO and other shillmon in new entries until the end of time
You all did this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 11:41:17 No.45975561 Report

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>>45973394
>I would really like a Pokemon game that doesn't follow the formula of a young trainer trying to become the champion of a region and also having to deal with evil teams and supernatural bullshit on the side
Pokémon Colosseum and Gale of Darkness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 11:50:47 No.45975607 Report

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>>45972452
thread shouldve ended here

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 11:53:45 No.45975626 Report

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>>45972433
Because normalfags bitched and moaned about Pikachu and Charizard not being available so GF realized that it just wasn't worth it to put effort in anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 11:54:59 No.45975632 Report

Quoted By: >>45975704

>>45975399
>kanto rehashing
Nice meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 12:08:28 No.45975704 Report

Quoted By: >>45975771

>>45975632
IS THAT SANDSLASH FROM-

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 12:22:05 No.45975771 Report

Quoted By: >>45975992

>>45975704
>IS THAT FLYGON FROM-
>IS THAT WAILORD FROM-
>IS THAT SKARMORY FROM-

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 13:05:27 No.45975992 Report

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>>45975771
All irrelevant when in the presence of Pokemon Trainer Red from KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 13:18:24 No.45976059 Report

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>>45972433
people have smartphones now and they don't have as much time to devote to one game *laughs*

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 14:27:24 No.45976423 Report

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>>45972655
>Gen6 was victim of muh 3d
>gen7 had at least a good main game but some stuff were just whack
>gen8 suffered from hd dev

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