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Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 18:35:50 No.46053768 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>46053791 >>46054179 >>46055349 >>46055584 >>46055622 >>46058425 >>46059215 >>46059245 >>46061448 >>46061957

>great design
>one of the few kantomons who hasn't gotten any kind of new form or evo
Why has Starmie been ignored for so long?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 18:38:47 No.46053791 Report

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>>46053768
more like why it is so based

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 19:22:46 No.46054179 Report

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>>46053768
Cannot be improved

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 19:23:51 No.46054190 Report

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>>46054179
Not true. Illuminate getting an in-battle effect would help it a lot

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 19:25:51 No.46054208 Report

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punishment for gen 1's meta, same reason tauros is ignored

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 19:43:41 No.46054367 Report

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does not appeal to the average coonsumer

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 19:48:35 No.46054403 Report

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>actual monster
>with actual detail
>cannot be a jobmon
>can't have additional spikes
>can't make the design round and curvy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 21:23:46 No.46055288 Report

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>>46054190
Just replace it with Regenerator.
It makes sense for a starfish. See Toxapex for more evidence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 21:28:42 No.46055332 Report

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>>46054190
>Illuminate now works like Intimidate, but lowers accuracy

Imagine the seething

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 21:30:20 No.46055349 Report

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>>46053768
Unfortunately he's a jobber

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 21:49:54 No.46055504 Report

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>>46055332
Immediate Smogon ban because "it goes against the nature of competition" :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 21:54:35 No.46055548 Report

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>>46055504
>Look up their policy
>Accuracy reducers like sand attack are banned
What a bunch of shitters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 21:55:34 No.46055557 Report

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>>46054208
But Alakazam got a mega... I just want my point starfish boy to get the love he deserves

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 21:56:48 No.46055567 Report

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>>46055548
Literally just use better moves. There’s a pretty good variety of moves that never miss and just straight up skip accuracy checks, it’s not like entirely luck-based dodging would become meta. Smogon’s a bunch of cowards

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 21:57:21 No.46055569 Report

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>>46055548
Remember when Smogon wanted to simplify its rules as much as possible to be a welcoming format for players?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 21:57:25 No.46055570 Report

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>>46055548
I can admit evasion can be a cheap thing (z-minimize Chansey in vgc was pure cancer) but Smogon is just anal when it comes to bans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 21:58:53 No.46055584 Report

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>>46053768
He's a handsome lad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 22:00:07 No.46055598 Report

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>>46055570
Meanwhile you have Chanseys able to minimize in VGC who are promptley spanked by perfectly accurate Dynamax moves.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 22:03:09 No.46055622 Report

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>>46053768
I love starmie so much.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 22:04:16 No.46055631 Report

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just going to post some starmie art.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 22:06:00 No.46055641 Report

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 22:07:03 No.46055644 Report

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 22:07:46 No.46055649 Report

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Is Meteor Beam Starmie good?

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 22:08:06 No.46055651 Report

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 22:11:31 No.46055682 Report

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>>46055631
Thank you for all of the Starmie art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 22:12:00 No.46055686 Report

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>>46055548

Really? This is recent? I remember for a fact sand attack wasn't banned like 2 gens ago. In fact I think I remember smogon debating banning Z flash, which raised evasion in addition to flash.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 22:44:54 No.46055960 Report

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>>46055682
You're welcome fellow starmiebro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 23:01:50 No.46056104 Report

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Is Starmie in unite or the new snap?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 23:07:24 No.46056147 Report

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>>46055649
Idk, but it sounds pretty decent. Bulk is serviceable enough to let it survive a hit after power-herb beaming and has great speed, so it could sweep some things pretty well

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 23:12:58 No.46056196 Report

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>>46055649
It is!
>Meteor Beam with Power Herb hits hard and boosts Sp.Atk
>Dynamax and setup Psychic Terrain while getting a KO, locking priority
>Or setup Rain to KO with Hydro Pumps after returning to normal
>Or setup Sand to stop the opponent's Focus Sash
Allied with its great Speed Stat, tis why I love using my Shiny Starmie!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 23:48:25 No.46056489 Report

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>>46055548
Keep crying, Verlis.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 00:35:16 No.46056872 Report

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Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 01:41:55 No.46057321 Report

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Also an interesting example of how different the two sides of playing Pokemon are; by level up it learns water, later rock, and a bunch of support moves (but is still often later the game on account of those being good), but invest some TMs and suddenly it has coverage for entire teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 03:17:48 No.46057846 Report

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Starmie is the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 03:20:17 No.46057866 Report

Quoted By: >>46059168

>uu last gen
>ou every other gen
>nu this gen
?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 04:48:04 No.46058425 Report

Quoted By: >>46058489 >>46059197 >>46061359

>>46053768
>Why has Starmie been ignored for so long?

It's hard to feel an emotional connection with because it's so alien and feels like an inanimate object. And I don't mean something like Vannilite, I mean Starmie itself kind seems strangely unalive.

If I remember right, prior to the introduction of Ultra Beats Starmie was uniquely the only Pokémon did not have any sort of traditionally obvious face/eyes. It makes it hard to understand Starmie's emotions or what it might be thinking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 04:57:05 No.46058489 Report

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>>46058425
>Starmie was uniquely the only Pokémon did not have any sort of traditionally obvious face/eyes.
Basically this. Sigilyph, Claydol, Bronzong, Unknown, etc all at the very least have markings similar to eyes a person can latch onto and see as their "face", Staryu doesn't have that so it's harder for most people to form a connection with.Unless they have autism.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 07:33:54 No.46059168 Report

Quoted By: >>46062283

>>46057866
Powercreep is brutal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 07:42:22 No.46059197 Report

Quoted By: >>46060738

>>46058425
>>46058489
I mean, it's pretty easy to imagine it and Staryu's cores as single eyes, even though they aren't. They even flash and stuff, that combined with their movements is enough for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 07:49:17 No.46059215 Report

Quoted By: >>46060145

>>46053768
I'll never not be booty blasted over how the anime treated Starmie

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 07:56:40 No.46059245 Report

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>>46053768
>Looks neat
>Is strong
>No shilling
Pretty good overall

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 12:54:23 No.46060145 Report

Quoted By: >>46060205

>>46059215
What happened to Starmie in the anime?

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Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 13:12:09 No.46060205 Report

Quoted By: >>46061475

>>46060145
For whatever reason, Starmie was a total jobber compared to Staryu and Misty almost never used it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 15:02:22 No.46060738 Report

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>>46059197
And you can imagine its tentacles as arms, legs, and a head. Think Patrick from Spongebob.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 16:43:02 No.46061359 Report

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>>46058425
Starmie's old model was full of personality

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Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 16:56:02 No.46061448 Report

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>>46053768
>>one of the few kantomons who hasn't gotten any kind of new form or evo
>why has starmie been ignored for so long?
Sounds like they're giving it plenty of attention to treat it with such care

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 17:01:45 No.46061475 Report

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>>46060205
iirc it also stopped appearing completely

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 18:12:36 No.46061957 Report

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>>46053768
because its perfect the way it is

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 18:59:35 No.46062283 Report

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>>46059168
Gen 7 was Power-creep: the Gen, and Starmie was still UU. Nowadays it can't KO shit with a mere 100 SpAtk and no Z-moves.

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