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Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 17:39:04 No.46070383 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>46070417 >>46070422 >>46070458 >>46070541 >>46070601

I thought all HMs were dogshit, but Surf is actually a really good water move in fights.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 17:43:22 No.46070417 Report

Quoted By: >>46070424

>>46070383
Strength and waterfall aren't bad either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 17:44:02 No.46070422 Report

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>>46070383
Waterfall is also good in the post split games. I like whirlpool as well because I like trapping moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 17:44:11 No.46070424 Report

Quoted By: >>46070431

>>46070417
strength isn't bad but it's completely inferior to return

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 17:45:06 No.46070431 Report

Quoted By: >>46070445

>>46070424
Strength should really be a fighting-type move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 17:47:28 No.46070445 Report

Quoted By: >>46070501 >>46070655

>>46070431
Rock type would be nice too

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 17:49:39 No.46070458 Report

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>>46070383
u r just 24 yrs late. congratulations

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 17:55:00 No.46070501 Report

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>>46070445
I thought it was for the longest time because of the gen 2 / pokemon stadium animations

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 17:59:48 No.46070541 Report

Quoted By: >>46070548 >>46070571

>>46070383
Defog was an HM

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 18:00:23 No.46070548 Report

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>>46070541
Flash was worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 18:03:14 No.46070571 Report

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>>46070541
True, but not in a generation in which Defog was useful, so it's not fair to call it a useful HM move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 18:06:41 No.46070601 Report

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>>46070383
It took you 25 fucking years to realize this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 18:13:31 No.46070655 Report

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>>46070445
That'd have been fine too. Honestly I don't mind the gen 1 HMs. 5 is the perfect number, two are entirely optional, and the other three all remain useful throughout the game due to Cut's ability to cut grass. It was Gamefreak's insistence on adding more than 5 that really made HMs a dogshit mechanic.

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