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Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 00:14:38 No.46073688 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>46073999 >>46074456 >>46074539 >>46074551 >>46075437 >>46075459

>Full power explosion
>No team preview
>Suicide leads
>HO is great, but limited with permanent sand and SR
>Steel OPAF
>No buffed ass knock off or defog
>No fairy types
Gen 4 OU is the best Smogon metagame rn (Gen 3 OU is a close second)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 00:52:13 No.46073999 Report

Quoted By: >>46074020

>>46073688
Gen 4 is unanimously agreed to be trash by the top level players

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 00:52:57 No.46074008 Report

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Gen 5 and 3 are miles better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 00:54:42 No.46074020 Report

Quoted By: >>46074035 >>46074278

>>46073999
what do they dislike about it? OP’s reasons are kinda retarded but i think it’s still a fun gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 00:56:20 No.46074035 Report

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>>46074020
It's almost Gen 7 tier in how bad matchup issues are. Some would say it's even worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 01:29:41 No.46074278 Report

Quoted By: >>46076205

>>46074020
some of the reasons op posted actually but also because this was the gen u-turn was introduced and it was abused a lot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 01:52:43 No.46074456 Report

Quoted By: >>46075120 >>46075339

>>46073688
How are suicune leads good in any way

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 02:03:35 No.46074539 Report

Quoted By: >>46074550

>>46073688
Yeah, the best. Fuck compfags, play the game straight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 02:04:57 No.46074550 Report

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>>46074539
I too really really really enjoy beating thoughtless NPCs over and over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 02:05:17 No.46074551 Report

Quoted By: >>46074561 >>46075094

>>46073688
yo I'm slow, what happened to explosion?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 02:06:22 No.46074561 Report

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>>46074551
It no longer deals double damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 02:07:43 No.46074575 Report

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The problem with gen4 was Hippo/Loom/Water

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 03:25:50 No.46075070 Report

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Before or after the garchomp/mence bans?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 03:29:26 No.46075094 Report

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>>46074551
In gens I-IV, explosion halved the opponent's defense before dealing damge, basically making it twice as powerful

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 03:33:02 No.46075120 Report

Quoted By: >>46076244

>>46074456
>stop their rocks
>get a cheeky kill
What's not to like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 04:16:30 No.46075339 Report

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>>46074456
Suicide, not Suicune.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 04:21:00 No.46075361 Report

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Really hate how prominent cancer like bulky Jirachi and Clefable has gotten. Although from what I've seen and heard the meta seems a lot more tolerable now that Dugtrio is gone.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 04:34:37 No.46075437 Report

Quoted By: >>46076217

>>46073688
I don't play competitive, but why can this thing be male or female and why does it have the same amount of egg steps as a Togepi it makes no sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 04:38:25 No.46075459 Report

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>>46073688
gen 4 competitive was fun. loved using banded E-speed togekiss, they always switch in a special wall

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 06:36:27 No.46076205 Report

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>>46074278
It's still abused a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 06:37:55 No.46076217 Report

Quoted By: >>46076687

>>46075437
It was a pseudo originally but they couldn't come up with designs for pre evos

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 06:41:28 No.46076244 Report

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>>46075120
I meant fun, not in terms of usefulness. But I also misread cuz I'm a retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 08:14:42 No.46076687 Report

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>>46076217
okay, but pseudos always have 10k egg steps so idk. coincidentally, manaphy shares the same amount of egg steps as well, but it can actually have an egg.

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