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Anonymous Fri 12 Feb 2021 22:45:10 No.46198929 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>46198978 >>46198986 >>46201503 >>46201556 >>46201560 >>46202856 >>46203256 >>46203313 >>46203327

Why doesn't Pokemon have any moves that deal max health damage and/or missing health damage? I don't play comp, but wouldn't this help fix the stall meta?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Feb 2021 22:52:16 No.46198978 Report

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>>46198929
Final Gambit exists :)
And getting rid of HDB or Regenerator would do more for offense anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Feb 2021 22:52:57 No.46198986 Report

Quoted By: >>46200139

>>46198929
>why doesn't pokemon balance around a fanfic format unrelated to the actual game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 01:20:39 No.46200139 Report

Quoted By: >>46200323

>>46198986
They do, though.
Why else would they introduce Heavy Duty Boots when hazards aren't and have never been relevant in the actual game.
I don't think they have a good understanding of fanfic meta, but they at least have enough of an awareness of it to know about the "Charizard afraid of rocks" meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 01:43:45 No.46200307 Report

Quoted By: >>46200323 >>46203331

>Sonic Boom 20% of max hp
>Dragon Rage 40%

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 01:45:46 No.46200323 Report

Quoted By: >>46201442

>>46200139
HDB are just a random item they put in there. There's Shed Shell, Air Balloon, various items that provide immunity to a game mechanic. An entry hazard version was just a matter of time.
>>46200307
Dare I say it, based?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 04:51:09 No.46201442 Report

Quoted By: >>46201448

>>46200323
The difference is that trapping moves/abilities and ground attacks are actually relevant.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 04:51:47 No.46201448 Report

Quoted By: >>46203302

>>46201442
So are hazards. People still run hazards in BSS retard.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 05:00:14 No.46201503 Report

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>>46198929
Wring Out and Crush Grip

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 05:07:17 No.46201556 Report

Quoted By: >>46201603 >>46201617

>>46198929
>Max health damage
What do you mean, OHKO moves? Horn Drill, Guillotine, Fissue and Sheer Cold exist. They're banned in the meta you appear to be concerned with. Are you perhaps referring to moves that deal more damage the more HP the user has? Eruption and Water Spout do that. Or do you maybe mean moves that deal more damage the more HP the target has? Wring Out was a thing but was niche and was Thanos snapped out of existence.
>Missing health damage
Not sure what you mean by this.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 05:07:55 No.46201560 Report

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>>46198929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0-coASIjkQ

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 05:15:24 No.46201603 Report

Quoted By: >>46202719

>>46201556
I think missing health damage means it does the same amount of damage as the amount of health the user is missing?
Or gets stronger the lower the user's health is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 05:18:24 No.46201617 Report

Quoted By: >>46203212

>>46201556
>Or do you maybe mean moves that deal more damage the more HP the target has?
Yeah, I meant this.
>>Missing health damage
>Not sure what you mean by this.
The more flat missing health the target has the more damage the move does.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 09:40:12 No.46202719 Report

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>>46201603
Endeavor

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 10:09:40 No.46202856 Report

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>>46198929
>durr what is brine

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 11:38:42 No.46203212 Report

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>>46201617
Wring Out and Brine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 11:50:07 No.46203256 Report

Quoted By: >>46203269

>>46198929
>missing health damage
completely and utterly useless. no one would ever run a move with this concept, which is exactly why brine sees zero use.
giving your opponent the most free switch of all time is a terrible idea.

>max health damage
i assume you mean the move's damage is a function of max health, in which case it's again useless.
stallmons' durability doesn't come from sheer health pool, it comes from recovery.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 11:54:02 No.46203269 Report

Quoted By: >>46203291

>>46203256
Brine is good but redundant. If it was like base 80 starting and went up to base 130 it would be better because you could use it's more consistently.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 12:00:21 No.46203291 Report

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>>46203269
the biggest problem with brine is that for it to be useful, you have to be exactly weak enough that the target takes precisely 4 hits to go down.
any less and you've wasted a moveslot for nothing, any more and you should've ran toxic instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 12:03:09 No.46203298 Report

Quoted By: >>46203660

>no moves that ignore a portion of the target's defence or special defence
>no moves that deal flat additional damage equal to a part of the target's max HP
>no moves with stacking effects on use or on hit
>no moves that grant an extra turn on very specific conditions

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 12:04:18 No.46203302 Report

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>>46201448
Yeah, absolute shitters.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 12:07:17 No.46203313 Report

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>>46198929
>I don't play comp
>fix the stall meta
name a more iconic duo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 12:10:24 No.46203327 Report

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>>46198929
Pokemon needs more FAST defensive moves ON defensive pokemon. Having priority on stuff like iron defence would fix a lot of problems

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 12:11:25 No.46203331 Report

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>>46200307
Maket hgem both 40% and its deal.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2021 13:32:07 No.46203660 Report

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>>46203298
>no moves that ignore a portion of the target's defence or special defence
what the fuck does this even mean? do you know a single thing about how defense works? a move with 40bp that ignores half the target's defense is exactly the same as a move with 80bp.

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