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Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2021 03:16:04 No.46209028 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>46209071 >>46209119 >>46209127 >>46209148 >>46209397 >>46212624 >>46212634

Anyone else think that trainers just standing around on routes waiting to farmed is kind of a terrible way to pad the game? How do we improve trainer encounters?

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Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2021 03:21:42 No.46209071 Report

Quoted By: >>46210251

>>46209028
Add more non-battling NPCs so the world doesnt feel so focused around the player.

Another thing they could do is make trainer battles mostly optional. Not because of dodging them, but because you'd have to talk to them directly to be asked for a battle, with the option to reject it. And wild encounters would instead be the forced battles in routes and caves. They should make more stuff like bridge snorlax but without the flute. An overworld pokemon blocking the way unitl you defeat them.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2021 03:27:35 No.46209119 Report

Quoted By: >>46210251

>>46209028
it's a problem by design, like south facing houses
the best way to solve it is to let them roam and react to you
for example, you enter a mine, if you run, any nearby miner will face you in battle, you can tip toe, but they will turn around often to do another chore
you could give them a good excuse like "i am bored of working, lets take a break with a pokemon battle"
overall you need decent level designers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2021 03:28:17 No.46209127 Report

Quoted By: >>46209374 >>46213362

>>46209028
How about the youngsters/new trainers being the only ones who bother to fight you at first and as you get more experienced better trainers start showing up in old routes. Also having more of them moving around and acting like they're battling, catching pokemon, healing, react to your following pokemon (or have some of their own) or whatever else would make them feel more alive.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2021 03:30:43 No.46209148 Report

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>>46209028
They could repurpose the Wild area online feature of having the npc trainers roam the fields, and to battle them is completely optional.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2021 04:00:00 No.46209374 Report

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>>46209127
>How about the youngsters/new trainers being the only ones who bother to fight you
I think you're on to something here, what if you made youngsters always initiate battles and their fighting style is always just whatever move will do the most damage. Then you have your various type them Trainors but they'll only engage if they think youre weak to their types. Next you have sweeping teams if they think you can't dish out enough damage or lack speed and tank/stat clearing teams if they think you're a sweep team. Basically just hammer out the players strategy rather than forcing them to cover all variants of playstyles.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2021 04:04:27 No.46209397 Report

Quoted By: >>46210573 >>46213508

>>46209028
all trainers start out from the same town as you, they all have ai geared towards getting to the championship, they walk around attempting to go to each gym in succession, some are faster than others, very fast and smart, some are slow and dumb, as they get farther in their mission the pokemon in their party increase in level/evolve. If defeated by the player, that trainer is destroyed(after the player leaves that area) and a replacement trainer is spawned and must repeat the journey again, if a trainer manages to make it all the way to the elite four area, they are also deleted/reset.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2021 06:25:44 No.46210251 Report

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>>46209071
>>46209119
I do like making some trainer battles conditional or optional; they are there to level you up and wear you down between cities but so are wild Pokemon. But it is tricky, you can repel wild pokemon, but also catch everything you see. Snorlax is a good example of your random RPG boss monster, that is just trickier to implement in Pokemon because you can then capture and use it yourself. Some random trainers showing later on isn't a bad idea either.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2021 06:34:00 No.46210290 Report

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No more stationary trainers for one. Maybe they should actively persue you. like a normal video game enemy would. The difference between them and a wild pokemon would be they don't have to touch you to start a battle, they just have to get close enough. And of course, like normal video game enemies that respawn, they will challenge you again if you revisit the area... That way you can avoid all encounters if you want, provided you can evade them. But if you wipe an area completely of enemy trainers, there's still some tension if you return to an old route.

And I hate to bring this game up since i'm sure it's overdone by now, but it would be nice if enemy trainers got stronger as you progress, like how mobs in Breath of the Wild will go up a rank as you kill enemies. Would be great if they could rotate their teams as well so they don't always have the same one to three pokemon every time you fight them.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2021 07:33:34 No.46210573 Report

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>>46209397
That sounds close to lawsuit from Warner Brothers Game Studios.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2021 10:48:04 No.46211258 Report

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>>46210251
What if you made some "wild" encounters like a boss or a full attack, the boss pokemon appears in the overworld blocking your way until you battle them. They would come at you all at once too or all the minions would fight and then the boss. Just have it say something "there's no time to check the bag" so you can't catch the boss. You could also replace trainers with them too if you omit the boss.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2021 16:21:39 No.46212624 Report

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>>46209028
Use the nemesis system from middle earth : shadow of mordor

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Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2021 16:23:12 No.46212634 Report

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>>46209028
it's a video game.
not everything has to make sense.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2021 16:31:02 No.46212685 Report

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>>46212624
neat idea but it's patented so the courts won't allow it

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Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2021 17:38:44 No.46213187 Report

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Sky battles ofc

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Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2021 18:00:28 No.46213362 Report

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>>46209127
I like this idea. Gives you a lot of reason to return. I imagine they would need something like a marker hovering above them to designate they're a trainer, and maybe a badge number to show how many you need before they become available to battle, and the symbol is greyed out after they've been battled. Perhaps it could become active again after a certain amount of time has passed, or that trainer is implied to have become better by his badge number having been raised and his team improving.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2021 18:18:54 No.46213508 Report

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>>46209397
Woah came to this thread to make this post

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