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Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 06:42:24 No.46238952 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>46239026 >>46239435 >>46239616 >>46241743 >>46241771

>DP remakes will be made in the likeness of SWSH instead of retaining the traditional map design and exploration elements
>We will NEVER EVER get another open world Pokemon game like LGPE
It hurts bros... What's next? They'll start putting Z-Moves and Dynamax into regions that aren't Alola and Galar?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 06:57:42 No.46239026 Report

Quoted By: >>46239039 >>46239044 >>46239072

>>46238952
> open world
> LGPE
???? the closest thing to open world in a main line pokemon game we've had is the wild area.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 07:01:26 No.46239039 Report

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>>46239026
>the wild area
>open world in any sense of the word
The wild area isn't even as open as Hoenn's ocean. Maybe the DLC is sort of open, but you're still forced to do everything in order even if you explore before the game has the chance to hold your hand through it. That's the most linear Pokemon has ever been.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 07:02:33 No.46239044 Report

Quoted By: >>46239045 >>46239072

>>46239026
gen 1 after rock tunnel is more open world than the wild area

other than that there is no open world in pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 07:03:21 No.46239045 Report

Quoted By: >>46239072

>>46239044
Johto after Ecruteak and the entirety of Kanto in Gen 2 is open-world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 07:13:34 No.46239072 Report

Quoted By: >>46241937

>>46239044
>>46239045
Pokemon was and is never an open world game like Zelda or GTA (which is a sandbox, a similar genre to open world). In Kanto, we are being given limited freedom to explore and roam Kanto with checkpoints and roadblocks. After beating Misty, your next absolute roadblock is Snorlax on Route 12 and west of Celadon.
>>46239026
You know full well that wild area isn't the closest thing to an open world game. It's just a park on a road. A small segment compared to the world after it. Those two are talking about a game where you can complete objectives whenever and however you want. THAT is an open world.
Starting with Gen III, the story is more railroaded with increasing intensity. In gen VI - VIII, you're not an adventurer going on a quest for the first time, you're a kid on disneyland being guided on a tour.

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Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 07:17:35 No.46239087 Report

Quoted By: >>46240728

>falling for the "open world" meme
You know damn right Pokemon never was and never will be an open world game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 09:24:36 No.46239435 Report

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>>46238952
> They'll start putting Z-Moves

You don't need to stay in Alola to be able to do Z moves. You only need a Z thing on your arm and Z crystals. That's why Ash is able to do Z-Moves in Kanto in the SM anime. Just like they gifted us a Mega bracelet thing in Alola, someone can randomly appear in other regions and give us a Z bracelet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 10:11:51 No.46239616 Report

Quoted By: >>46240728

>>46238952
LGPE uses the exact same map layout as gen 1 kanto, what the fuck do you think open world means ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 15:14:23 No.46240728 Report

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>>46239087
>>46239616
It's just the most recent excuse to like a game other than SwSh. It's always said as "LGPE are better than SwSh because they're traditional/open world games"
Hopefully they move on to another meme soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 17:50:54 No.46241743 Report

Quoted By: >>46241763

>>46238952
>> open world
>> LGPE
????
nothing open world about lgpe

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Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 17:53:28 No.46241763 Report

Quoted By: >>46241776

>>46241743
>Nothing open world about lgpe
Except the open world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 17:54:13 No.46241771 Report

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>>46238952
>>We will NEVER EVER get another game like LGPE
Good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 17:55:14 No.46241776 Report

Quoted By: >>46241817

>>46241763
Except for the actual "open world" part of course.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 18:01:24 No.46241817 Report

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>>46241776
Except Kanto is inherently open world and LGPE only emphasized this fact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 18:02:37 No.46241829 Report

Quoted By: >>46241893

>46241817
>lies blatantly repeated
Crying about it won't make it true either son.

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Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 18:09:54 No.46241893 Report

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>>46241829
>Uses the definition of the open world genre to comprehensively explain why Pokemon has always been an open world adventure RPG
>"NOOO IT ISN'T BECAUSE... IT JUST ISN'T, OKAY?"
Still no argument, I see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 18:15:03 No.46241937 Report

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>>46239072
>In gen VI
To be fair, Kalos does have completely optional routes that benefit backtracking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 18:32:38 No.46242064 Report

Quoted By: >>46242549

>46241893
>can't travel across water from the start
>go to towns on the eastern portion of the map without unlocking progression triggers
>"open world"

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Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 19:23:47 No.46242513 Report

Quoted By: >>46242601

>46242064
>Can't travel off the Great Plateau from the start
>Can't do all the shrines without unlocking progression triggers for a solid 1/4th of them
>Can't even see the true ending unless you railroad through all of the divine beasts, meaning you can't fight Ganon first
And yet people still have the gall to call BOTW Open World.
It's nothing like the Wild Area. SWSH is TRUE open-world, amirite?

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Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 19:26:32 No.46242549 Report

Quoted By: >>46242601

>>46242064
>Can't safely scale the large mountain without completing the tutorial and unlocking the paraglider
>Can't safely cross the ocean without completing the tutorial and unlocking Sea Skim
Yet both things are objectives that the player has direct control over, which is completely different than arbitrarily getting handed a Ride Pokemon or Bike upgrade for doing nothing.
Do you not see how flawed that logic is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 19:30:01 No.46242601 Report

Quoted By: >>46242627

>>46242513
>>46242549
Zelda was and is never an open world game like GTA or Minecraft (which is a sandbox, a similar genre to open world). In Hyrule, we are being given limited freedom to explore and roam Hyrule with checkpoints and roadblocks. After scaling the Sheikah tower, your next absolute roadblock is the shrines on Mt. Hylia and Eastern Abbey.
So, no. BOTW isn't open world and neither is LGPE because neither fit the definition of Open World that SWSH does with the Wild Area and DLC.

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Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 19:32:04 No.46242627 Report

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>>46242601
>Implying GTA is open world either
The SWSH's Wild Area pioneered the open-world genre. Everything else is just a sandbox.
GTA was and is never an open world game like SWSH and the DLC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 19:39:26 No.46242713 Report

Quoted By: >>46242771

>"n-no see muh headcanons make that false"
After the tutorial (where they teach you what's going on and the basics of what you have to do) you're free to go anywhere (it was one of the very first things the devs talked about E3 2016). Now if you want to suggest the tutorial ends after getting all secret techniques, sure, it is by then, 3/4 the way through the game. Otherwise, you're hardlocked to following the path GF set out for you. Seethe kiddies.

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Anonymous Wed 17 Feb 2021 19:44:02 No.46242771 Report

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>>46242713
>you're free to go anywhere
No you aren't. You aren't free to go to Lost Woods and get the Master Sword. You can't access many of the challenges in the game that are crucial to unlocking shrines, you have to take a very specific path on the flower shrine to even reach it, the mazes are all locked down, the trial of the sword literally has levels that have to be progressed in order, the list goes on.
>3/4 of the way through the game
2 badges = 3/4 of the way through the game? You can go literally anywhere after Cerulean, no differently than BOTW. Both games have roadblocks that YOU as the player need to traverse with your own skill. That's completely different from the style of progression introduced in SM and SWSH.
>You're hardlocked to following the path GF set out for you
Seeing that you have no argument and are repeating the same buzzwords still, I would say you're the one hardlocked here.

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