>>46285826Cinderace and Zoroark are different cases. Zoroark’s marketing failed because it’s marketing was just... Bad. People liked it’s design, but the way it was hyped up to be this rare “special” Pokémon in the original B&W kinda failed because they ended up giving it away to everyone and even had a Zorua given to you in B2W2 by an NPC with no event, which killed all of it’s interest and hype. Cinderace is the opposite, in which it has a lot of decent marketing, hidden ability and tv show presence and all, but people don’t seem to like it’s design that much. You are right though, 2 bad starter designs aren’t going to keep TPC down for too long.