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Water Type is broken?

Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2021 17:41:12 No.46289449 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>46289873 >>46290286 >>46293822

> only two weakness
> one of them can be easily countered by any coverage move
> most of them learn ice moves that serve as perfect cover, if not earthquake to counter their other weakness.
> most of its combinations are considered top tier
> literally the only combination with Ice that does not completely sucks
> usually bulky
> lots of coverage
> absurd diversity
> super effective against the most common offensive types, perfect revenge killer
ANY type can compete with water types? Only Dragon and Fairy are even close to them

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2021 17:51:09 No.46289515 Report

Quoted By: >>46289525 >>46289526 >>46290286

Water should be weak to poison

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2021 17:52:49 No.46289525 Report

Quoted By: >>46290286

>>46289515
I’ve always thought the same, it would give poison a much needed buff and balance out water. Plus it actually is a weakness that makes sense unlike poison being weak to ground... for some reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2021 17:53:02 No.46289526 Report

Quoted By: >>46289896 >>46289920

>>46289515
Even then a lot of water types know earthquake sooo...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2021 18:13:51 No.46289704 Report

Quoted By: >>46289792 >>46289896

Make it weak to ice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2021 18:23:52 No.46289792 Report

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>>46289704
Another weakness that can be easily countered with everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2021 18:32:34 No.46289873 Report

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>>46289449
If it weren't for the likes of primal groudon, mega venusaur, regileiki, thunderous, mega charizard y, the chlorophyll ability, sun sweepers, and the move mirror coat. Water type would be god tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2021 18:36:05 No.46289896 Report

Quoted By: >>46289920

>>46289526
>>46289704
Stop being retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2021 18:39:45 No.46289920 Report

Quoted By: >>46289959

>>46289896
Where in this post >>46289526 was I being retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2021 18:44:26 No.46289959 Report

Quoted By: >>46289991

>>46289920
Buffing ice types is a stupid work

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2021 18:49:09 No.46289991 Report

Quoted By: >>46289999

>>46289959
I'm not the guy that said buff ice types, I said that if poison types did get buffed, a lot of them can get countered by earthquake..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2021 18:50:32 No.46289999 Report

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>>46289991
Ah.
Well yeah, Poison types are kinda fucked. Their best combination continues to be Dark/Poison at a level so absurd.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2021 19:24:35 No.46290286 Report

Quoted By: >>46291325 >>46292100 >>46293817 >>46294167 >>46294322 >>46295886 >>46295931

>>46289449
Stop being a retard. Just because Pex gives you PTSD and people use Pressure Stall Suicune in stall teams does not mean Water is broken.

GF even made sure Water stayed balanced when they introduced Flip Turn. They made sure not every water type got it and those who did get it like Swampert just improved because Swampert was already a decent mon even without a recovery move.

>>46289515
>>46289525

That is not how Poison work. You can't say that Poison is SE against water due to pollution. Poison works on a microscopic level. The Ocean literally has multiple natural toxic chemicals such mercury, Ciguatera toxin, and Saxitoxin. The list goes on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2021 20:41:49 No.46291325 Report

Quoted By: >>46291487 >>46294370 >>46295850

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2021 20:56:05 No.46291487 Report

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>>46291325
Bugs are too dumb to notice the paranormal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Feb 2021 21:50:56 No.46292100 Report

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>>46290286
> pic related ruled the Gen 3 meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Feb 2021 00:31:03 No.46293817 Report

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>>46290286
Holy shit, imagine if they gave Pex Flip Turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Feb 2021 00:32:14 No.46293822 Report

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>>46289449
>empoleon center stage
as it should be

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Feb 2021 01:10:14 No.46294167 Report

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>>46290286
>That is not how Poison work. You can't say that Poison is SE against water due to pollution. Poison works on a microscopic level. The Ocean literally has multiple natural toxic chemicals such mercury, Ciguatera toxin, and Saxitoxin. The list goes on.
What sort of pants on head retarded take is this. I could make a better argument for grass resisting poison. Plants and algae are responsible for fuckton more toxins including ciguatera. In fact, plants literally have wax in their roots to filter out toxins. It's why they're used for environmental cleanup and survive nuclear disasters like nothing.
Each water type isn't the entire ocean of dilution. It's an animal in the water. Same as every other. So many marine animals use poison because it's effective against other marine animals either for predation or as a deterrent. It'd be a waste of energy to produce it otherwise.
That's not even going into how shit like muk and garbodor wouldn't count as micro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Feb 2021 01:24:53 No.46294322 Report

Quoted By: >>46295886 >>46295931

>>46290286
On re-read I get that you're going more for marine organisms resisting bioaccumulation, but nothing in the poison type handbook is really bioaccumulation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Feb 2021 01:29:42 No.46294370 Report

Quoted By: >>46295886 >>46295931

>>46291325
Ghost resists bug because they couldn't hand ghost another immunity. Also crickets and beetles are supposed to warn off bad luck or evil spirits etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Feb 2021 04:36:45 No.46295850 Report

Quoted By: >>46295909

>>46291325
How could a bug even touch a ghost?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Feb 2021 04:42:26 No.46295886 Report

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>>46290286

Based pic and response for Flip Turn. Imagine if every water OU mon obtained flip turn. Pex would be even more cancerous.

>>46294322

That is true. Anon with the Swampert pic did not explain that properly and applies vice verse for those saying Poison needs to be SE against Water which really does not make sense. Poison itself is already a good SE typing do to it being able to do good neutral damage to many mons.

The only real issue to poison is the usage of steel and ground types being common, but rock, poison, and ghost are not that commonly seen. If anything Poison should be able to do Neutral damage to Ground at the very least, not sure about it being SE to ground, but neutral.

>>46294370

Based. Fun fact insects actually are able to warn off evil spirits due to them producing a unique sound frequency. That is why people keep pandering the sound type but really bug needs the buff. These threads are just a waste of time when Bug is the weakest type, yet you do not see bug mains making a thread about it. Because they know their is no point to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Feb 2021 04:46:54 No.46295909 Report

Quoted By: >>46296222

>>46295850
It is more as if Bugs warn off ghost by producing a unique frequency. That is why you see sound type fags pandering for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Feb 2021 04:50:50 No.46295931 Report

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>>46290286

Based pic and response for Flip Turn. Imagine if every water OU mon obtained flip turn. Pex would be even more cancerous.

>>46294322
That is true. Anon with the swampert pic did not explain that properly and applies vice verse for those saying Poison needs to be SE against Water which really does not make sense. Poison itself is already a good offensive typing. It can do good neutral damage to many mons. Just look how well NidoKing and Naganadel are. Poison just needs more mons with offensive stats like those two.

The only real issue to poison is the usage of steel and ground types being common, but rock, poison, and ghost are not that commonly seen. If anything Poison should be able to do Neutral damage to Ground at the very least, not sure about it being SE to ground is needed.

>>46294370

Based. Fun fact insects actually are able to warn off evil spirits due to them producing a unique sound frequency. That is why people keep pandering the sound type but really bug needs the buff. These threads are just a waste of time when Bug is the weakest type, yet you do not see bug mains making a thread about it. Because they know their is no point to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Feb 2021 05:33:06 No.46296222 Report

Quoted By: >>46296888

>>46295909
Then shouldn't ghost be weak to bug? Or bug resisting ghost?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Feb 2021 07:37:52 No.46296888 Report

Quoted By: >>46297564

>>46296222
Honestly they should but this is GF we are talking about. Half their types makes no sense. Look at rock and ground, yet we know they are literally the same.

Realistically speaking bug should be buffed to be SE against Dark, Psychic, Grass, Ghost, and Fairy considering how many types resist Bug. Some believe Bug should also be SE to Ground but I don't really believe it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Feb 2021 10:24:45 No.46297564 Report

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>>46296888
Bug being strong against ground makes more sense than it being strong against ghost and fairy. Bugs dig through the ground all the time.
And rock and ground are different enough to justify being different. A bird doesn't give a fuck about an earthquake, but it'll die if you throw a rock at it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Feb 2021 12:32:53 No.46298232 Report

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Steel is more broken.

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