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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 04:36:01 No.46397513 View View Reply Original Report

There are few things worse than having garbage Pokemon as your favorite ones. Post your favorite useless PKMN.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 04:39:26 No.46397564 Report

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>>46397513

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 04:43:38 No.46397621 Report

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These little fellas.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 04:45:40 No.46397647 Report

Quoted By: >>46398119 >>46401166

Luxray and meganium
but they have top tier shinys so it balance out

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 04:48:38 No.46397675 Report

Quoted By: >>46397722 >>46397751 >>46398119 >>46411028

>>46397513
Electivire isn't my favorite Mon, but he's probably my favorite shit/barely usable mon so him

Got some fun use out of him during early Crown Tundra ranked where Koko/Eleki leads were super common

Lead with Nidoking and any other mon and inevitably at least one of them tries to volt switch or something, which means Electivire gets a free speed boost

Wish his defense or speed was just a bit higher, he'd be set if they were

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 04:53:19 No.46397722 Report

Quoted By: >>46397791

>>46397675
Physical Electric types blow in general. Not having a good STAB is infuriating, especially when there are good physical Electric moves, but all of them are exclusive.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 04:56:03 No.46397751 Report

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>>46397675
why would they try to volt switch on Nidoking?

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 04:58:38 No.46397791 Report

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>>46397751
They wouldn't - they'd always volt switch the other mon because they knew Nido would instakill either of them, meaning it's a more-than-free switch in to Electivire

>>46397722
Also yeah, this. Thunder Punch is fine, I guess, but we really need more physical electric attacks. Ice Punch is fun to have for coverage though

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:06:51 No.46397913 Report

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>>46397791
Also I mostly really wanted to use it and Magmortar because I have the PKTOPIA ones brought up

shame both are uh, Fucking Bad

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:09:12 No.46397942 Report

Quoted By: >>46397957 >>46398160 >>46401166

>>46397913
I've always liked the duo. But they're just so bad.

It's a shame too, both have great coverage, they're just too slow and fragile. And in Electivire's case, have no STAB.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:10:53 No.46397957 Report

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>>46397942
I think it's safe to say they're the coolest cross-gen evos from Gen 4, with Honchkrow and Gliscor up there with them

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:13:38 No.46397982 Report

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:20:10 No.46398060 Report

Quoted By: >>46398125 >>46401051 >>46404945

>>46397513
al they need to do is buff iron fist to 1.5x so it reaches parity with other boosting abilities. Strong Jaw is 1.5x. Sheer Force and Tough Claws are 1.3x but they boost more moves and tough claws doesn't even have a drawback like sheer force does so i don't get why it has to be so weak. Even 1.4 would be fair

replace his vital spirit with new iron fist and make motor drive buff it's user's speed each time an electric type move is used by anyone on the field

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:22:24 No.46398086 Report

Quoted By: >>46399739 >>46401284 >>46406074

>Trust your Pokemon and be friends with them that's real power
What a load of shit. Fuck you Karen, you lied to me.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:24:27 No.46398119 Report

Quoted By: >>46398149 >>46401284 >>46405111 >>46405458

It's sooo close being decent. Having the Fastest Flash-Fire Boosted Eruption would be a respectable niche, the problem is that it's literally the only thing it can do because it has no other special moves (Focus Miss is so bad even the anime made fun of it, Solar Beam only works in the Sun, Nature Power is a meme at best, andd Extrasensory is Extra shitty because psychic is a garbage offensive typing.) Earth Power would solve this problem but NOOOOOO because god forbid a Volcano, ERUPT with power.
The rest of its move pool is full of physical crap that it can't use because its Atk is garbage and it's one of the only starters that doesn't get Swords Dance for some retarded reason so it can't even attempt a physical moveset.

>>46397675
Electivire is too cool of a design to be as bad as it is. It doesn't get Plasma First or Volt Tackle because only Shillmons are allowed to have physical electric moves that don't suck. Al least let it have something like Bulk Up so it can attempt to be a bulky attacker, would that be too much to ask.

>>46397621
Why are its stats so low, other that that it has an excellent movepool. It being Unteired is a crime.

>>46397647
Luxray need Volt Tackle and Meganium needs all the Powder/Pollen moves (and change Leaf Guard into something that isn't the shittiest ability in the game that isn't a flat-out nerf)

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:24:54 No.46398125 Report

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>>46398060
Sheer force also negates self-damage from Life Orb and prevents Berserk from activating so sadly 1.3x is actually completely reasonable, and Tough Claws having such a huge amount of moves it works for also makes sense. Iron Fist should be stronger, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:26:27 No.46398149 Report

Quoted By: >>46408961

>>46398119
If Typhlosion comes back from dexit, it'll probably get Scorching Sands. It's no Earth Power, but it's passable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:27:10 No.46398160 Report

Quoted By: >>46406579

>>46397942
Bruh, if there really is Mega evolution in BDSP, these niggas better get a Mega evo or I will pull some serious shit in minecraft.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:27:22 No.46398166 Report

Quoted By: >>46398231

>>46398125
i knew about the life orb but not berserk, but honestly that just sounds like GF is retarded and couldn't figure out how to make the ability not negate the recoil like how it took them forever to fix Azurill changing genders upon evolution or whatever dumb thing prevents them from giving egg groups to nidoqueen and nidorina

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:28:20 No.46398174 Report

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:28:52 No.46398184 Report

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>>46397513
Most rock/ground types without sturdy

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:29:00 No.46398187 Report

Quoted By: >>46401284

This idiot

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:29:04 No.46398188 Report

Quoted By: >>46398212 >>46401416

I hate when "badass" designs are just made blatantly overpowered, but I hate just as much good designs that are dogshit

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:30:38 No.46398208 Report

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>>46397513
I love this little dude like you wouldn't believe. I also really like Electivire and Magmortar but my 2nd favorite Pokemon overall is Chimecho if Beldum does not count.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:31:08 No.46398212 Report

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>>46398188
Cacturne is an unfortunate victim of GF's fascination with making Pokemon that have good offense, but no defense or speed. What's the point of being strong if everything outspeeds and OHKOs you?

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:32:45 No.46398231 Report

Quoted By: >>46398261

>>46398166
I mean it's 100% programming error bullshit they can't be bothered to fix, but Life Orb Nidoking is hella fun to use as a result

if my boy Feraligatr is ever allowed in, I'll def have to give him a try too now that I know Sheer Force is not, in fact, garbage, like i thought it was when they released HA feraligatr via bank

also technically life orb lando-i but nido has better coverage AND it's cooler

plus it's really funny to ohko dynamaxed lando-t with ice beam

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:34:27 No.46398255 Report

Quoted By: >>46398337 >>46401031

>>46398212
Or more specifically, speed that's too slow for normal play but also too fast for Trick Room

like seriously, what the fuck do you do with the 55-80ish speed mons?

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:34:55 No.46398261 Report

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>>46398231
>my boy Feraligatr
You, I like you.

I used SF Gatr a lot back in gen 7. Got some nice results overall, he's scary with a Dragon/Sword Dance up.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:36:03 No.46398277 Report

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:36:58 No.46398286 Report

Quoted By: >>46398294

Electivire isn't garbage. It's not top tier, but it's still useable.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:37:41 No.46398294 Report

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>>46398286
Dude, it's literally untiered. 540BST and is worse than fucking Togedemaru.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:40:32 No.46398337 Report

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>>46398255
This is a great example of why the current stat system fails. We need way more stats. Same bst overall for each mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 05:43:44 No.46398370 Report

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>>46398294
>it's literally untiered.
So? People are sheep and only use what other people use.

>540BST
There are worse Pokemon higher BSTs and better Pokemon with lower BSTs.

>worse than fucking Togedemaru
No it's not

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 06:45:40 No.46399128 Report

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NO Body Press
NO King's Shield
NO Bulk Up
Crowned Form is Worse than Normal Form
Behemoth Bash doesn't go off Defense , meaning it technically doesn't have a signature move because it's exactly the same as Behemoth Blade except people use Zacian.

What the fuck was Lame Freak thinking? Nearly everything else gets Body Press except for the one fucking Pokemon who logically should have had it all? It can't be for balance because Zacian is the single most broken thing in the entire history of Pokemon. How the fuck did they think this imbalance was OK? Why does the Shield user get the worse defensive typing? Is not giving the Shield Pokemon Body Press their idea of British "Humour", if so I'm not fucking laughing. Does Lame Freak just hate shields? Is Sword the version of the game they wanted people to buy, then why not just make one version? Is Lame Freak run by tumblrettas who masturbate to the idea of the female being perfect in every away and the male being a worthless piece of literal dog shit? Can't they just look up a hyena documentary or something? Dex was supposedly to be about balance but those fuckers couldn't even balance the main legendaries against each other? How did Zamazenta even help defeat Eternatus the first time if its so useless? Why is is called "mazenta" if it's not magenta? (No the unreleased shiny doesn't count) Why does all this trigger me so much? Fuck Lame Freak, and Fuck this shitty franchise. No Body Press for the Shield, what a shitload of fuck.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 06:46:53 No.46399137 Report

Quoted By: >>46399196

>>46398261
hell yeah

Totodile was my first starter so I'm obviously slightly biased, but I really do love Punch Gator

even managed to track down and buy a Feralichamp plush, surprisingly good quality desu

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 06:51:34 No.46399196 Report

Quoted By: >>46400362

>>46399137
>desu

i already forgot what i typed

what the fuck gets filtered to desu

i'm not a common poster and i certainly don't keep up with 4chan's little tidbits like its filter list

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 06:53:01 No.46399215 Report

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>>46397513
It would have to be Magcargo. This sucker has a ton of great moves like Recover, Shell Smash, Earth Power, Yawn, both screens, Rock Slide, Stone Edge, Earthquake, Explosion, Heat Wave, Pain Split, and Stealth Rocks.

But it's shit stats and mediocre abilities will keep it at the bottom of the barrel. Rock/Fire isn't even a bad typing, but only works if you're fast and can hit hard, neither of which Magcargo can do.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 07:43:54 No.46399739 Report

Quoted By: >>46403408 >>46409075

>>46398086
At least it can evolve, oh wait...
Galarian form only evolutions were a mistake.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 08:13:00 No.46399950 Report

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>Healer

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 08:59:03 No.46400316 Report

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I havent used my favourite on a competitive level for like 12 years now. 12 years waiting for a relevant buff... sometimes I wonder why do I even still care.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 09:02:02 No.46400334 Report

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>>46397513
Hey, she was my best pokemon in light platinum

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 09:03:41 No.46400351 Report

Quoted By: >>46401416

>>46397513
It's not that bad for the adventure but playing 1/2 turn makes some trainers battle so slow.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 09:05:00 No.46400362 Report

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>>46399196
To be honest desu

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 10:39:42 No.46401011 Report

Quoted By: >>46401085 >>46401416

I love this nigga so much

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 10:43:08 No.46401031 Report

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>>46398255
>>46398337
Add Physical Speed and Special Speed

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 10:44:35 No.46401039 Report

Quoted By: >>46411454

>people calling their bros Garabage

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 10:46:20 No.46401051 Report

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>>46398060
All they should do is boost BOTH Electa and Magm HP to 100-110.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 10:53:04 No.46401085 Report

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>>46401011
Great pokemon
Supercool
Never used em

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 10:54:44 No.46401099 Report

Quoted By: >>46401198 >>46401416

>>46397513
There's a few, but the cross-gen NFEs are always the most painful.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 11:01:28 No.46401151 Report

Quoted By: >>46401416 >>46405074

Too much potential to have awful stats

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 11:02:57 No.46401166 Report

Quoted By: >>46401284 >>46402059 >>46415448

>>46397513
I'm gonna rebuild all these niggas, for you anons

Electivire:
New Stats: 85/123/92/50/85/105/BST:540
New Abilities: Motor Drive/Iron Fist/(HA)Electric Surge
Motor Drive buff: Draws in all Electric-Type moves, similar to Lighning Rod
New Moves: Bulk Up, Mach Punch, Bullet Punch, Drain Punch, Stone Edge, Fake Out
Wild Charge buff: Raised to 120 base power. To compensate, Volt Tackle is now 150 base power

>>46397621
New Stats: 65/120/110/30/70/105/BST:500
New Abilities: Battle Armor/Inner Focus/(HA)Defiant
Battle Armor buff: In addition to it's current effect, Battle Armor now also grants the Pokemon resistances to Fighting and Steel-Type moves. To compensate, Shell Armor grants resistances to Flying and Water-Type moves
New Moves: Drill Run, Pursuit, Accelerock, Stone Edge, Earthquake, Stomping Tantrum

>>46397647
New Stats: 100/62/110/83/120/60/BST:535
New Abilities: Triage/Grassy Surge/(HA)Overgrow
New Moves: Draining Kiss, Dazzling Gleam, Psychic, Calm Mind, Earth Power, Follow Me, Weather Ball
Draining Kiss buff: Now 75 base power

>>46397942
New Stats: 85/50/87/125/95/98/BST:540
New Abilities: Flame Body/Mega Launcher/(HA)Sheer Force
New Moves: Earth Power, Aura Sphere, Terrain Pulse, Dark Pulse, Agility
New Move: Fireball Cannon
Functionally, a special Fire-Type Dragon Darts. Boosted by Mega Launcher

cont.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 11:07:46 No.46401198 Report

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>>46401099
Magneton is pretty good as far as NFE mons go.
I'm pretty sure it's one of the best overall, only behind Chansey, Doublade, and Dusclops.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 11:10:45 No.46401230 Report

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This thread just reminds me how much I hate NFE mons and Megas

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 11:11:13 No.46401237 Report

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My favorites are pic related, I remember trying to force being able to use Mawile in Gen 4 with some shitty baton pass set, then it got a mega, which was nice. Chikorita line was never good.

Honestly I can't imagine only being able to see my favorites in battle, plus there's not even a guarantee the Pokemon are even gonna be in the game anymore. If I wanna see my favorites I just draw them like I did after reading this thread, it made it easier to drop the games since I could still enjoy Pokemon I loved without supporting GF or needing to to hack/trade them into other games just to use them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 11:17:41 No.46401284 Report

Quoted By: >>46401416 >>46406546

>>46401166
>>46398086
I know Sirfetch'd is already a thing, but I still wanna make another evolution for Farfetch'd, anyway. Maybe it could be the non-Galarian form evolution of Farf
New Evo:
Stats: 72/135/65/48/82/105/BST:507
Abilities: No Guard/Swordfighter/(HA)Defiant
Swordfighter: Boost sword-based/slashing moves by 1.5x base power
New Moves: Sacred Sword, Night Slash, Psycho Cut, X-Scissor, Bulk Up

>>46398119
New Stats: 78/70/85/114/78/110/BST:535
New Abilities: Solar Power/Volt Absorb/(HA)Blaze
New Moves: Thunder, Thunderbolt, Discharge, Earth Power, Nasty Plot, Thunder Wave

>>46398174
New Stats: 70/115/65/80/85/120/BST:535
New Abilities: Unburden/Lighning Rod/(HA)Overgrow
New Moves: Earth Power, Fake Out, Leech Life, Knock Off

>>46398187
New Stats: 83/111/65/96/65/105/BST:525
New Abilities: Dry Skin/Anticipation/(HA)Tough Claws
New Moves: Mach Punch, Bullet Punch, Aqua Jet, Liquidation, Vacuum Wave, Earth Power, Muddy Water, Boomburst, Ice Beam, Agility, Hone Claws

cont.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 11:39:20 No.46401416 Report

Quoted By: >>46402009 >>46415267

>>46401284
>>46398188
New Stats: 80/125/110/55/60/85/BST:515
New Abilities: Sand Rush/Iron Barbs/(HA)Water Absorb
New Moves: Knock Off, Leech Life, Earthquake, Rock Slide, Stone Edge, Iron Head, Zen Headbutt, Stealth Rock, Agility
Needle Arm buff: Buffed to 100 base power

>>46398261
New Stats: 85/120/100/59/83/88/BST:535
New Abilities: Guts/Sheer Force/(HA)Torrent
New Moves: Stone Edge, Bulk Up

>>46400316
New Stats: 75/100/70/105/80/115/BST:545
New Abilities: Tinted Lens/Levitate/(HA)Sand Stream
New Moves: Quiver Dance, Swords Dance, Focus Blast, Hurricane

>>46400351
Truant buff: Status moves are able to be used on Truant turns
Movepool nerf: Loses Protect and Substitute

>>46401011
New Stats: 85/55/100/107/123/44/BST:514
New Abilities: Poison Point/Adaptability/(HA)Water Absorb
New Moves: Nasty Plot, Calm Mind, Muddy Water, Ice Beam, Blizzard, Recover, Thunder Wave, Follow Me

>>46401099
New Stats: 50/50/105/120/70/80/BST:475
New Moves: Overheat

>>46401151
New Stats: 85/52/108/122/108/25/BST:500
New Abilities: Pressure/Infiltrator/(HA)Regenerator
New Moves: Recover, Power Gem, Earth Power, Fire Blast, Overheat, Discharge, Focus Blast

cont.

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dexited Sun 28 Feb 2021 11:50:38 No.46401496 Report

Quoted By: >>46401567 >>46412859

>no evo
>no mega
>awful stats
>bad moves
>got dexited

Just fuck my shit up senpai
>terrible typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 12:02:20 No.46401567 Report

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>>46401496
Here's my attempt at rebuilding Ledian:

New Stats: 65/95/55/30/110/105/BST:460
New Abilities: Swarm/Iron Fist/(HA)Early Bird
New Moves: Bullet Punch, Fire Punch, Falcon Punch
Move Buff: Comet Punch is now Bug-Type + 95% accuracy
Falcon Punch:
Type: Flying
Category: Physical
Accuracy: 100
Power: 75
PP: 24 (max)
30% to burn. Boosted by Iron Fist

If these buffs aren't gonna be enough to make Ledian viable, here's an evolution
Type: Bug/Fighting
Stats: 75/125/70/40/115/110/BST:535
Abilities: Swarm/Iron Fist/(HA)Defiant
New Moves: Bulk Up, Close Combat, Superpower, Sky Uppercut, Rock Slide, Stone Edge, Lunge, Iron Head, Zen Headbutt, Earthquake

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 12:09:40 No.46401612 Report

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>>46397513
They seriously need a buff or an evolution with the sand form

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 12:10:57 No.46401620 Report

Quoted By: >>46405204

>>46397513
I could go all day posting my favorite shitmons. So many of my favorite Pokemon are so shit. It's especially bad, since most of them really don't deserve to be as shitty as they are. I'll start with Beartic

I know Beartic is semi-usable in Doubles. In fact, it's one of my favorite rain-abusers to use. A Swift Swim Ice-Type is very unique, and the rain offers a useful Fire neutrality. Combined with the unique offensive typing, it makes Beartic very unique in Doubles. It has a good movepool, and just decent-enough stats to take advantage of Swift Swim. My favorite of which are the two priority moves it gets access to, Ice Shard and Aqua Jet. Ice Shard is STAB, and a very useful STAB at that, while Aqua Jet gets boosted by the rain

I just think Beartic could be way better than it currently is. At least replace Snow Cloak with Tough Claws. No giant-ass polar bear should be using snow to fucking hide. Run? maybe, but not hide. It should be tearing shit apart with it's giant claws

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 12:15:51 No.46401658 Report

Quoted By: >>46405139

>>46397513
What’s worse than her simply being useless is that there was a brief period of time where she wasn’t.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 12:36:26 No.46401820 Report

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>>46397513
My favorite KANTOOO pokemon but it really sucks, he got a buff in gen 7 but it is still garbage. Really hard to use before the physical/special split because of shitty movepool + bite is special and his SpA is too low.

He needs another buff, better bulk or higher ATK.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 13:05:22 No.46402009 Report

Quoted By: >>46402078

>>46401416
Tinted Lens and Sandstream are both terrible abilities on Flygon. The only reason the former is good on Yanmega is because neither of its STABs cover for each other and Bug has like 7 resists. Sandstream gives no benefit since Flygon is not a rock type and it doesnt have the bulk to use it for consistent weather control like Hippo. Flygon needs something that would increase its damage output, like Sheer Force, which its preevo already has.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 13:15:28 No.46402059 Report

Quoted By: >>46406055

>>46401166
I'm pretty sure Magmortar already gets Earth Power and Aura Sphere - I could swear mine has one, if not both

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 13:18:57 No.46402078 Report

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>>46402009
True. I'm keeping Tinted Lens, since it fits Flygon + makes it harder to switch into, but I'll replace Sand Stream with Sheer Force

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 13:28:35 No.46402140 Report

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Specifically K.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 15:30:07 No.46403292 Report

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bump

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 15:34:34 No.46403332 Report

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dude what if we took a pokemon and then removed its entire niche

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 15:42:08 No.46403408 Report

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>>46399739
>mfw all the people who were like "FINALLY MY BRO DUX/CH'DING WILL BE GOOD HE CAN EVOLVE NOW"

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 15:44:27 No.46403434 Report

Quoted By: >>46415267

feels bad (includes their dad and drago too, eleki is fine-ish)

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 15:52:50 No.46403520 Report

Quoted By: >>46415448

They really couldn't give it slush rush?I mean, I don't think even that could save it but still. It has an excellent offensive typing but can't do jack shit. Fucking waste.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 17:06:54 No.46404390 Report

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bump

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 17:44:31 No.46404904 Report

Quoted By: >>46406663 >>46415448

I wish my bro was really viable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 17:47:20 No.46404945 Report

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>>46398060
I think the issue is that if you buff Iron Fist for one pokemon, you buff it for every pokemon with that ability. Yeah, I'd like to see my boy Infernape get buffed, but pseudo-Gorilla Tactics Conkeldurr scares me. They should give both Electivire and Magmortar Sheer Force as secondary abilities.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 17:50:41 No.46404992 Report

Quoted By: >>46415448

Its my favorite pokemon. I've understood that it had some ultra niche uses but lets be real, its pretty useless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 17:56:09 No.46405074 Report

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>>46401151
This swirly boi better get a mega or ima take a phat shit on gamefreaks front lawn ((in minecraft))

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 17:57:52 No.46405098 Report

Quoted By: >>46415448

>>46397513

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 17:58:57 No.46405111 Report

Quoted By: >>46405359

>>46398119
>Volt Tackle
>Anyone but Pikachu getting it
Look, I also love Luxray but I live in reality

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 18:00:24 No.46405139 Report

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>>46401658
I remember watching a guy play Pokemon Battle Revolution online and used a mind-gamey Mawile set. The Mawile would lure the opponent into a false sense of security to set up, but then get Focus Punched. They got a lot of cheeky KOs that way, which is fitting given the kind of pokemon Mawile is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 18:05:13 No.46405204 Report

Quoted By: >>46413108

>>46401620
>No giant-ass polar bear should be using snow to fucking hide.
https://www.polarcruises.com/blog/did-you-know-polar-bears-arent-white#:~:text=Polar%20bear%20skin%20is%20black,thin%20undercoat%20is%20not%20hollow.
>Polar bear skin is black and the fur is not white at all. Each individual hair is a clear hollow tube called guard hair and looks white because of reflected light. The bear’s thin undercoat is not hollow. Like the guard hair it is colorless. This optical illusion provides good hunting camouflage in the snow and pack ice.
>This optical illusion provides good hunting camouflage in the snow and pack ice.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 18:14:58 No.46405359 Report

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>>46405111
Yeah I mentioned that in the Electivire section. Only Pikashill gets to have that move while nearly every other physical Electric type is suck with garbage because Lame Freak doesn't want them to overshadow Pikashill from KANTOOOOOOO even though Pikashill is still a shitmon with the move anyways.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 18:20:03 No.46405458 Report

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>>46398119
>That quote

Fuck kek. Here's hoping legends buffs this nigga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 18:54:26 No.46406055 Report

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>>46402059
Magmortar doesn't get those, it gets Scorching Sands and Focus Blast (though honestly its moveset is pretty decent already).

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 18:55:36 No.46406074 Report

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>>46398086
this one too

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 18:57:00 No.46406103 Report

Quoted By: >>46406401

The chatter gimmick was fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 19:14:09 No.46406401 Report

Quoted By: >>46406572

>>46406103
Let's be real, how many of you used Chatter to say obscenities?

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 19:22:26 No.46406546 Report

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>>46401284
>I know Sirfetch'd is already a thing, but I still wanna make another evolution for Farfetch'd, anyway. Maybe it could be the non-Galarian form evolution of Farf

You mean this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 19:22:34 No.46406549 Report

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>>46397513
Electivire is my second favorite behind Galvantula. Both pretty useless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 19:23:50 No.46406572 Report

Quoted By:

>>46406401
enough to get it banned GBU

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 19:24:02 No.46406579 Report

Quoted By: >>46406652

>>46398160
This. I've always loved Electivire and Magmortar has really grown on me. These deserve SOMETHING. Thankfully, they're a pretty commonly used pair, and with Volkner and Flint using them, I think there's a good chance that they'll get SOMETHING if a gimmick is brought to BDSP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 19:28:23 No.46406652 Report

Quoted By: >>46406746

>>46406579
Reminds me that I picked up a Magmar to be able to do the Ice Gym but by the time I ended, I couldn't take it off my team even when I already had Infernape. Eventually evolved it isn't Magmortar with the help of a neighbor

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 19:28:51 No.46406663 Report

Quoted By: >>46407062

>>46404904

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 19:33:29 No.46406746 Report

Quoted By:

>>46406652
*It into Magmortar

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 19:50:13 No.46407036 Report

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>>46397513
you already posted it :/
I remember I tried so hard to make him work in a rain team, but he was always the weakest link.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 19:52:35 No.46407062 Report

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>>46406663
Cool! Thanks, friend!

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 20:01:03 No.46407182 Report

Quoted By: >>46408014 >>46415614

Thought he was the coolest looking mon ever as a kid but was never able to get him due to being a trade evoluion.
Didnt know shit about stats etc. so i imagined steelix would be an absolute beast because he's a giant stone snake so of course he had to be poweful as fuck.
>feel disappointed everytime i see him

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 20:50:05 No.46408014 Report

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>>46407182
The problem is that they could only increase its base stats so much from Onix and Onix's sole purpose was to job to 6 year-olds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 20:51:18 No.46408038 Report

Quoted By:

>>46397513
You just posted it, OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 21:44:26 No.46408961 Report

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>>46398149
Scorching Sands would be excellent, but Shillzard from KANTOOOO already gets it. Typhlosion really needs to Extra Base Power of Earth Power to truly have an identity instead of being "WUrSe ChaRiZard".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 21:51:25 No.46409075 Report

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>>46399739
The worst part is that Sirfetch'd also sucks.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 21:53:24 No.46409104 Report

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I love its little dance and the spot placement gimmick makes it feel like I have one that's mine alone but god damn, Spinda's so weak its difficult to use even in an ingame playthrough

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 22:00:47 No.46409223 Report

Quoted By: >>46412778 >>46412823 >>46415614

God why is he so fucking bad

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 22:19:52 No.46409584 Report

Quoted By: >>46411734 >>46415614

>>46397513
They made my weasel bro into furry bait lads. We had one chance and we blew it.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 23:07:21 No.46410470 Report

Quoted By: >>46410880 >>46415614

>Charizard is still universally adored
>Venusaur has it's niche wall appeal
>based cannonturtle gets nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 23:38:30 No.46410880 Report

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>>46410470
>gets a mega
>still not as good because no shell smash
>gets shell smash
>loses mega in the same gen
Being Blastoise is suffering.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 23:41:59 No.46410919 Report

Quoted By: >>46415614

being a flareon fag is suffering.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 23:49:16 No.46411026 Report

Quoted By: >>46415811

God i wish he was fucking better, but still gonna use him even if he's garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 23:49:32 No.46411028 Report

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>>46397675

It's especially annoying because it's electricity of all things, energy that is transmitted primarily through physical contact.

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Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 00:13:32 No.46411414 Report

Quoted By: >>46411754 >>46412605 >>46415811

I hate Fairy types just because they destroyed my favorite Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 00:15:44 No.46411454 Report

Quoted By:

>>46401039
Galarian Muk, is that you?!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 00:33:07 No.46411734 Report

Quoted By: >>46417170

>>46409584
>Linoone
>Bad
Wait, what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 00:34:09 No.46411754 Report

Quoted By:

>>46411414
Don't worry, Hydreigon fags share in your suffering

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Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 01:32:36 No.46412605 Report

Quoted By: >>46412731 >>46414493 >>46415820

>>46411414
Why is Fairy strong against Fighting types?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 01:40:40 No.46412731 Report

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>>46412605
Fighters/Martial artists aren't supposed to harm the innocent, but fairies are just little shits that pretend to be cute and innocent (doesn't work Grimmsnarl line but I think this is the logic)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 01:44:14 No.46412778 Report

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>>46409223
2 4X weaknesses, one of which has a 100BP that is unfathomably common.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 01:47:32 No.46412823 Report

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>>46409223
It needs Oblivious and reliable recovery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 01:50:36 No.46412859 Report

Quoted By:

>>46401496
With that attack stat they should let him get to attack twice a turn
It'd also fit with his pokedex entry:
"In battle, it throws punches with all four arms. The power of each individual blow is piddly, so it aims to win by quantity rather than quality."

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 01:51:12 No.46412875 Report

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>>46397513
Rampardos.

>OOOGA BOOGA attack
>OOGAA BOOGA ability
>OOGAA BOOGA movepool
>NFE the rest of its stats
What did he do to deserve this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 02:06:05 No.46413108 Report

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>>46405204
Tough Claws is still more fitting

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Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 02:19:18 No.46413305 Report

Quoted By: >>46415811

There is literally no reason for it to still have Defeatist as its only ability after 3 gens of power creep

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Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 02:27:04 No.46413419 Report

Quoted By: >>46415811

>>46397513
She gets better with every passing generation. First power whip, then poltergeist, who knows what in the upcoming future. But at the same time, they just keep on adding ghost/grass types and they're all fucking physical, so gourgeist can't even have the niche of being the only special one with flamethrower coverage. Also all sizes besides S and XL are basically useless which is a shame for such a unique gimmick.

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Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 03:51:29 No.46414493 Report

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>>46412605
Because fighting types were overpowered in gen 5.

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Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 03:56:26 No.46414549 Report

Quoted By: >>46415811 >>46416658

My poor boy

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Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 04:22:22 No.46414854 Report

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I just wish she got like just 1/3 of relevant buffs gyarados got

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Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 04:50:46 No.46415267 Report

Quoted By: >>46415448

>>46401416
>>46403434
Type Buffs:
Rock now resists Dark, Rock and Fairy
Ice now resists Water, Ground, Fairy, Grass and Flying + doubled Defense in Hail

Regirock:
New Abilities: Clear Body/Sturdy/(HA)Stone Strike
Stone Strike: Attacking stat multiplied by 1.5x, when using a Rock-Type move

Regice:
Abilities: Clear Body/Ice Body/(HA)Ice Strike
Ice Strike: Attacking stat is multiplied by 1.5x, when using an Ice-Type move

Registeel:
Abilities: Clear Body/Filter/(HA)Steel Strike
Steel Strike: Attacking stat increased by 1.5x, when using a Steel-Type move

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 05:06:36 No.46415448 Report

Quoted By: >>46415614

>>46415267
>>46403520
New Stats: 92/132/97/32/77/83/BST:513
Iron Fist Buff: Punching moves are now boosted by 1.5x, instead of 1.2x
New Moves: Fire Punch, Mach Punch, Bullet Punch, Agility, Hone Claws, Ice Shard, Knock Off, Darkest Lairat, Aqua Jet

>>46404904
New Stats: 120/123/85/67/75/65/BST:535
New Abilities: Reckless/Thick Fat/(HA)Blaze
Reckless buff: Reckless boost also now applies to moves which lower the Pokemon's stats after use (Close Combat, Overheat, ect)
New Moves: Seed Bomb, Slack Off, Fake Out

>>46404992
New Stats: 60/35/60/105/85/124/BST:469
New Abilities: Misty Meander/Shield Dust/(HA)Sweet Veil
Misty Meander: Doubles the Pokemon's Speed in Misty Terrain
New Moves: Air Slash, Hurricane, Mystical Fire

>>46405098
New Stats: 80/120/79/65/79/105/BST:528
Rivalry buff: Damage reduction against opposite-gendered Pokemon removed. Instead, the Pokemon takes 0.75x damage from opposite-gendered Pokemon
New Moves: Earthquake, Flare Blitz, Flame Charge, Iron Head, Zen Headbutt
Wild Charge buff from >>46401166 applies

cont.

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Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 05:20:53 No.46415614 Report

Quoted By: >>46415811

>>46415448
>>46407182
New Stats: 100/125/200/20/70/30/BST:545
New Abilities: Strong Jaw/Sturdy/(HA)Sheer Force
New Moves: Recover, Swords Dance

>>46409223
New Abilities: Sturdy/Oblivious/(HA)Soundproof
New Moves: Slack Off, Body Press, Thunder Wave

>>46409584
New Stats: 78/90/61/40/61/130/BST:460
New Abilities: Prioritize/Gluttony/(HA)Quick Feet
Prioritize: 1.5x damage boost on priority moves
New Moves: Aqua Jet, Sucker Punch, Swords Dance

>>46410470
New Stats: 86/61/120/120/105/45/BST:535
New Abilities: Multiscale/Mega Launcher/(HA)Torrent
Move buff: Life Dew heals 1/2 HP in Rain

>>46410919
New Stats: 65/130/65/60/110/95/BST:525
New Abilities: Flash Fire/Guts/(HA)Immolate
Immolate: Normal-Type moves become Fire-Type + 1.3x base power
New Moves: Crunch, Earthquake, Play Rough, Zen Headbutt, Iron Head, Stomping Tantrum, Agility, Swords Dance, Slack Off

cont.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 05:40:47 No.46415811 Report

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>>46415614
>>46411026
New Stats: 78/117/75/70/85/110/BST:535
New Abilities: Long Reach/Grassy Guard/(HA)Overgrow
Grassy Guard: 1.5x Defense and Special Defense in Grassy Terrain
Long Reach buff: All Physical non-contact moves gain 1.3x base power
New Moves: Earthquake, Stone Edge, Grassy Glide, Rock Slide, Agility

>>46411414
New Stats: 65/105/115/25/115/88/BST:513
New Moves: Bullet Punch, Gunk Shot, Stomping Tantrum, Earthquake, Agility, Slack Off, Thunder Wave, Body Press

>>46413305
Defiant buff: Activates when 1/4 HP, instead of 1/2 HP
New Moves: Accelerock, Sucker Punch

>>46413419
New Abilities: Flash Fire/Frisk/(HA)Insomnia
Insomnia buff: Raises Special Attack by one stage, when attempting to sleep
New Moves: Fire Lash, Flare Blitz, Grassy Glide, Stone Edge, Play Rough, Superpower

>>46414549
New Stats: 60/135/90/50/60/75/BST:470
New Moves: Trop Kick, High Horsepower, Bullet Punch, Brutal Swing, Zen Headbutt

cont.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 05:41:40 No.46415820 Report

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>>46412605
Fighting,Dark, and Dragon are the most “violent” typings and Fairy’s theming always had a “calming/purifying” vibe

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Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 05:47:18 No.46415870 Report

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feelsbadman

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Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 07:35:04 No.46416658 Report

Quoted By: >>46416672

>>46414549
The lowest he's ever dropped is UUBL? What's poor about him?

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Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 07:37:18 No.46416672 Report

Quoted By: >>46418266

>>46416658
Gets outclassed by Kartana

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 08:57:20 No.46417170 Report

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>>46411734
I mean it's good for playthroughs which is about all I do now, but I don't think either of us can argue it has any real use in the postgame or competitive scene.

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Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 11:45:17 No.46418266 Report

Quoted By: >>46418290

>>46416672
They're completely different.
Breloom uses Substitute, Leech Sneed, Spore, and Poison Heal to be basically untouchable and then use Focus Punch on any turn it doesn't have to set up Substitute.
Kartana is just a nuke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 11:48:34 No.46418290 Report

Quoted By: >>46418528

>>46418266
Breloom uses Technician, nignog

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Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 11:58:45 No.46418357 Report

Quoted By:

>>4639713
Electivire is a beast dude, he and my Togekiss were 10 level under Cynthia's mons but they still beat the shit out of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Mar 2021 12:20:15 No.46418528 Report

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>>46418290
It also uses Spore, which Kartana definitely can't take away from it.

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