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The battles look horrible, thats not subjective. Anyone claiming they like it are coping. Something that is more subjective is NEW DESIGNS. I like that they only used new pokemon for main game, I really like a good number of gen 5 designs. There are classics like hydreigon, volcarona, haxorus, darmanitan, excadrill, and many others, but there are just so many really bad designs. The ice cream and garbage actually bother me the least, though I still dont think they're good necessarily. But like the elemental monkey trio, the incarnate genies, the muskedeers, the swoobat line, I dont feel like listing all the bad designs, but there are a lot of really bad ones. I know this is subjective however, and I do like a lot of gen 5 mins. Its about 65% bad 35% good.
So yea I'm not gonna type anymore because most wont read all this, but they were conceptually good, overworld was nice, but battles and new pokemon designs are ugly. Gamefreak clearly tried though, they put a lot of effort into these games and it shows. It just wasnt all good. Or at least there was enough bad to make a lot of fans say EW and a lot such as myself say MEH. It was the beginning of a lot of negative shit in pokemon like hand holding. The reception of these games was such that it made gamefreak put less heart and soul into future titles. All games after seem watered down in some way. So it wasnt completely gen five that killed the franchise, it was the reception and gamefreaks reaction to that reception.
Thats all.
