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Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 20:23:48 No.46462967 View View Reply Original Report

why no outlines tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 20:40:52 No.46463165 Report

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>>46462967
no clue

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 20:42:21 No.46463184 Report

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>>46462967
I don’t know xD Ahah

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 20:45:40 No.46463227 Report

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>>46462967
Rush job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 20:47:23 No.46463245 Report

Quoted By: >>46463299 >>46466469

Outlines are shit on 3D models

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 20:52:06 No.46463299 Report

Quoted By: >>46463427 >>46468154

>>46463245
not if you stick to the flat colors anime style

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 20:54:19 No.46463326 Report

Quoted By: >>46463401 >>46463796

>>46462967
depends on how subtle they are imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 20:55:32 No.46463353 Report

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>>46462967
Maybe they just emulated the trailer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 20:55:35 No.46463355 Report

Quoted By: >>46463397

>>46462967
Because the fandom bitched like no fucking tomorrow about the outlines during gen 6 and 7 so now they're gone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 20:58:57 No.46463397 Report

Quoted By: >>46463432 >>46463461

>>46463355
It was shit on 3DS tho, their fault for thinking it would work on a small as fuck 240p screen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 20:59:05 No.46463401 Report

Quoted By: >>46463501

>>46463326
that lighting looks as disgusting as BDSM though
Are Scorbunny and Gloria supposed to be made of porcelain?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:01:40 No.46463427 Report

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>>46463299
Yes, if you follow Guilty Gear's process exactly, it looks pretty good. Otherwise, no.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:01:53 No.46463432 Report

Quoted By: >>46463447 >>46463461 >>46464706

>>46463397
Oh yeah sure bro, this is so much better!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:03:32 No.46463447 Report

Quoted By: >>46463482

>>46463432
Unironically, yes, but also you usually upscale when you have this mod enabled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:04:42 No.46463461 Report

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>>46463397
You're retarded. It looked fine. Like this anon shows >>46463432 it helped make details stand out better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:05:11 No.46463467 Report

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3ds game

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:06:14 No.46463482 Report

Quoted By: >>46463499 >>46463640

>>46463447
you're a hopeless retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:07:33 No.46463489 Report

Quoted By: >>46463685

>>46462967
it's not finished

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:08:12 No.46463499 Report

Quoted By: >>46463573

>>46463482
Do you have the comparison shot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:08:21 No.46463501 Report

Quoted By: >>46463575

>>46463401
they should use a simpler shading imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:10:06 No.46463522 Report

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>>46462967
If they looked like the image you posted, then I'm glad there aren't any.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:13:24 No.46463562 Report

Quoted By: >>46463575 >>46463605

don't have a litten one, this pretty much looks like BDSM with lower res background, so it's safe to assume it's shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:14:12 No.46463573 Report

Quoted By: >>46463609 >>46463640

>>46463499
That's how the cheap outlines effect they used on 3DS games look 99% of the time, and it's even worse a 3DS since this shit is being draw over the model and removing detail on the tiny ass resolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:14:26 No.46463575 Report

Quoted By: >>46463606

>>46463562
shit meant for >>46463501

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:17:24 No.46463605 Report

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>>46463562
It really is just hideous looking without the outlines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:17:37 No.46463606 Report

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>>46463575
That's not what I mean, they don't need to make characters this reflective, you can always use something more flat and anime-like; To be honest a cell shading would be better than what they use currently.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:17:46 No.46463609 Report

Quoted By: >>46463703

>>46463573
looks good to me, where did you fuck up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:18:34 No.46463615 Report

Quoted By: >>46468206

>>46462967
>SM - look better without outlines, but the outlines aren't bad
>BDSP - look way better with outlines, but not as good as SM with or without
How did they accomplish it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:21:24 No.46463640 Report

Quoted By: >>46463717

>>46463573
>>46463482
do they just have the same outline width regardless of distance? Is that why it looks fucked up in distance shots but good close-up?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:23:55 No.46463673 Report

Quoted By: >>46463722 >>46467953 >>46468470

And just as quick comparison LG looks like plastic shit too, can you tell me which one looks like a cartoon animal and which one looks like a cheap plastic toy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:24:40 No.46463685 Report

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>>46463489
Dude it's out in at latest in December. They're going to change absolutely nothing. They're doing last round QA testing for major bugs at best then shipping this shit out, 60 dollars, and it'll make a mint regardless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:25:56 No.46463703 Report

Quoted By: >>46463717 >>46463766

>>46463609
The thickness increases with the distance since they are draw based on the camera, not directly on the model. It's probably being done rendering some camera space normals then doing a edge detection on top of these normals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:26:09 No.46463710 Report

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>>46462967
prease undastand making gameu hardo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:26:59 No.46463717 Report

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>>46463640
I think so, see >>46463703

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:27:28 No.46463722 Report

Quoted By: >>46463961

>>46463673
Is that the main pikachu? I thought they modelled its mouth in LGPE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:29:18 No.46463745 Report

Quoted By: >>46463765

>>46462967
Serious question if they added lines before release how would you feel

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:31:13 No.46463765 Report

Quoted By: >>46463779

>>46463745
Less worse, if they fixed the chibi bullshit too I would be ok with it. Still a shitty cash grab but at least a proper one I would get on a sale.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:31:24 No.46463766 Report

Quoted By: >>46463844

>>46463703
i mean the game wasn't intended for 1080p and shit so that's why it looks janky
But still when the pokemon are up close even in native resolution it doesn't look bad at all.
It's crazy that they need to put out solution for problems that never existed

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:32:42 No.46463779 Report

Quoted By: >>46468527

>>46463765
There’s no way they fix the chibi stuff but I wish they would just change the hands

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:34:13 No.46463796 Report

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>>46463326
Like this more than whatever BDSP is doing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:38:22 No.46463840 Report

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>>46462967
Bdsp is the worst looking pokemon game since gen 1

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:38:45 No.46463844 Report

Quoted By: >>46463934

>>46463766
It looks equally weird on real hardware too if the camera is too far. They weren't trying to fix issues that didn't exist, that's a proper way to do outlines with so few pixels, otherwise the result would be a mess.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:42:39 No.46463887 Report

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>>46462967
Yeah, it looks a little off without an outline. Can we expect good battle models for the other trainers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:45:37 No.46463927 Report

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>>46462967
My god, it's amazing how much better Dawn looks on the right.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:46:32 No.46463934 Report

Quoted By: >>46463980 >>46464533

>>46463844
genshit impact manages to make subtle outlines look good far from the camera. Then again I guess it’s a pc game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:49:07 No.46463961 Report

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>>46463722
They modeled the Partner Pikachu's mouth only. Regular pikachu uses the old, unmodified model

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:50:20 No.46463980 Report

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>>46463934
yep, but try do this on a 240p screen and you might as well not draw outlines at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 21:58:16 No.46464098 Report

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>>46462967
Outlines probably add lag

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 22:35:26 No.46464533 Report

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>>46463934
Isn't it a mobile game (compatible with PC)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 22:54:10 No.46464706 Report

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>>46463432
that unironically does look better. Even considering the fact that it still has an outline (you just colored the outline white rather than black)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 23:13:48 No.46464868 Report

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>>46462967
they should give you the option of having outlines like smash 3ds and popolocrois

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 23:28:48 No.46464998 Report

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>>46462967
To make as faithful to the originals as possible. 2d sprites don't have any outlines whatsoever, after all. Right?

Rebellious Treecko

Rebellious Treecko Fri 05 Mar 2021 01:59:13 No.46466447 Report

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I remember when people played Gen 6 and 7 on emulators and thought they looked better without the outlines...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 02:01:34 No.46466469 Report

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>>46463245
Wrong, they prevent them from looking like toys
The only reason people removed them while emulating Gen 7 upscaled is because outlines got pixelated when upscaled

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 02:03:07 No.46466489 Report

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>>46462967
Outlines look bad and you should feel bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 02:29:21 No.46466685 Report

Quoted By: >>46466806

>>46462967
pLeAsE uNdErStAnD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 02:46:48 No.46466806 Report

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>>46466685
PREEZE UNDASTANERU

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 05:06:05 No.46467822 Report

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>>46462967
Chinese quality even in videogame making

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 05:23:25 No.46467953 Report

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>>46463673
Prefer LGPE, but the lighting is horrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 05:53:06 No.46468154 Report

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>>46462967

Contour lines are just a cheap way to hide shitty shading.

The exception of course is shit like this >>46463299, which is how Pokemon should have been translated into 3D.

In OP's example the outlines look like shit but it's still an improvement because the original was shaded as if it has outlines, with almost no delineation of form or occlusion shadows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 06:00:32 No.46468206 Report

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>>46463615
small indie studio, prease undastand

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 06:36:54 No.46468470 Report

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>>46463673
let´s go pikachu looks cute and hugable, cant believe i like something about that game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 06:48:05 No.46468527 Report

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>>46463779
wtf is this hahha

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