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>>46493931
I love type specialists with pokémon that are not their type. It's really fun. Like Sabrina's Venomoth and Volkner's Octillery.
Haters are lame as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:38:23 No.46493996 Report

Quoted By: >>46494003

The idea of type specialists is lame and lazy and the only reason it sticks around is because it's easier than comin up with thematic teams for every important NPC.

If anything many more fights should be like this instead of just rivals, team bosses and champs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:38:45 No.46493999 Report

Quoted By: >>46494021

>>46493931
Variety is fine, making a type expert in a region where the type doesn't exist and then calling the mistake "variety" is not okay. As seen in Platinum, GF always meant for Flint to have a full Fire team, they just forgot to put enough Fire types in DP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:39:15 No.46494003 Report

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>>46493996
>I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SWEEP YOUR TEAM WITH A SINGLE MOVE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:39:28 No.46494005 Report

Quoted By: >>46494017

>>46493990
????
There is nothing to prove wrong?
We just like Monotypes, go dilate your crotch wound and become part of the 41%

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:40:34 No.46494014 Report

Quoted By: >>46494172

>>46493931
Sinnohfetuses cope by saying it still thematically fits just because the fucking Steelix uses Sunny Day/Drifblim Willowisp/Lopunny Fire Punch. Besides Drifblim which is based off a hot air balloon none of them have anything to do with fire. Its a fucking shit team in a region already devoid of fire types so its less to do with being varied and subversive and more to do with Lame Freak hobbling together a bandaid knowing full well they didnt have to use a Fire type E4 member.

If you want a good example of a typed leader suberting expectations while still sticking to a theme then look at Raihain from SwSh and his doubles team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:40:43 No.46494017 Report

Quoted By: >>46494046

>>46494005
>I like not being forced to think
>I like being able to sweep entire teams of water pokemon with giga drain

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:41:23 No.46494021 Report

Quoted By: >>46494254

>>46493999
>GF always meant for Flint to have a full Fire team
wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:43:15 No.46494038 Report

Quoted By: >>46494058

>>46493931
>say you're themed around fire types
>less than half your team are fire types
>rest are random shitmons and a waifu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:44:14 No.46494043 Report

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>only two fully evolved Pokemon
>one of them is starter
yeah nah that's just shitty game design

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:44:42 No.46494046 Report

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>>46494017
Yes, tranny

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:44:46 No.46494048 Report

Quoted By: >>46494128

>>46493931
>NOO IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DIVERSE BECAUSE I WANT TO ONE SHOT THEM WITH DIFFERENT POKEMON IT WASN'T JUST BAD DISTRIBUTION THAT GOT FIXED

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:45:43 No.46494058 Report

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>>46494038
>NOOOOOO YOU SAID YOU'D HAVE FIRE TYPES SO I GOT MY WATER POKEMON READY!!! THIS ISN'T FAIR!!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:47:23 No.46494068 Report

Quoted By: >>46494080 >>46494140

>steelix is also weak to water
>lopunny is so weak it dies to any attack
I don't get it. You're still gonna sweep his whole team with one water move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:48:32 No.46494080 Report

Quoted By: >>46494091

>>46494068
I like how you deliberately left one out :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:49:42 No.46494091 Report

Quoted By: >>46494100

>>46494080
woah one whole pokemon now this is truly a difficult fight

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:50:18 No.46494100 Report

Quoted By: >>46494105 >>46494129

>>46494091
Objectively more difficult than a monotype team yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:50:54 No.46494105 Report

Quoted By: >>46494109

>>46494100
but Pt Flint is objectively more difficult than DP Flint

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:51:36 No.46494109 Report

Quoted By: >>46494120

>>46494105
Nope, I can sweep platinum sweep with a single move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:53:00 No.46494120 Report

Quoted By: >>46494127

>>46494109
I can sweep diamond sweep with a single move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:53:25 No.46494127 Report

Quoted By: >>46494167

>>46494120
Name it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:53:29 No.46494128 Report

Quoted By: >>46494150

>>46494048
Platinum Flint is soulless and weaker than DP Flint

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:53:41 No.46494129 Report

Quoted By: >>46494143

>>46494100
2HKO isn't difficult

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:54:49 No.46494140 Report

Quoted By: >>46494167

>>46494068
>>steelix is also weak to water
Sunny Day weakens water damage
>>lopunny is so weak it dies to any attack
Mirror Coat and Charm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:55:15 No.46494143 Report

Quoted By: >>46494162

>>46494129
It's more difficult which is nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:55:59 No.46494150 Report

Quoted By: >>46494170 >>46494174

>>46494128
>no stab Steelix
>60MB only move
>Lopunny

>stronger
???

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:57:38 No.46494162 Report

Quoted By: >>46494168

>>46494143
which is a pathetic excuse for autistic opinion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:57:57 No.46494167 Report

Quoted By:

>>46494127
Surf.
>>46494140
>Sunny Day weakens water damage
but it dies in one hit before it gets to set sunny day up
>Mirror Coat when it gets taken out in one hit
>wasting a whole ass turn using Charm to lower attack
yikes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:58:01 No.46494168 Report

Quoted By: >>46494184

>>46494162
Cope and seethe bitch.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:58:18 No.46494170 Report

Quoted By: >>46494183 >>46494224

>>46494150
>rapidash sets up the sunny day, can BTFO water, ground, and rock types with solar beam
>steelix can also use sunny day to gain resistance to water moves and power up fire fang
>drifblim can cripple physical attackers with burns and baton pass double teams
>lopunny weakens physical attackers, reflects damage from special moves with mirror coat, and sets sunny day as well
>infernape is pure sweeper

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:58:29 No.46494172 Report

Quoted By: >>46494222 >>46494405

>>46494014
Though one has to wonder, when they made Flint's team why didn't they stop to include more fire types in the region nor they made him another type specialist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:58:41 No.46494174 Report

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>>46494150
60BP*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:59:11 No.46494180 Report

Quoted By: >>46494214

Why do monotype cuckolds want the game to be easier than they already are?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:59:32 No.46494182 Report

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>>46493931
Because others E4 have monotype teams, he has red hair, the floor of his floor is literally in fire, he always talk about fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:59:39 No.46494183 Report

Quoted By:

>>46494170
anon Infernape has the same moveset in both games

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 19:59:44 No.46494184 Report

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>>46494168
This is when I know I won the argument

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:00:16 No.46494192 Report

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>>46493931
>he thinks monotype means mono weakness

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:00:49 No.46494196 Report

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>Competitve autism logic into a japanese monster catching game for toddlers
You lot are fucking pathetic I hope you guys die a horrible death and get reincarnated into beings lower than worms

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:02:19 No.46494214 Report

Quoted By: >>46494221 >>46494227 >>46494244

>>46494180
They're not a gymleader if they don't specialize in the type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:02:59 No.46494221 Report

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>>46494214
but anon, there's Blue in HGSS
an actually good example of non-monotype expert unlike Flint

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:03:15 No.46494222 Report

Quoted By: >>46494405

>>46494172
Game Freak works in absolutes, and from a completely brainlet tier marketing perspective also.

Magmortar and Electivire were designated "le kanto evos" duo counterparts, so in turn that trickles elsewhere into the game and they design 2 of their NPCs (Volkner and Flint) to have clown hair and clothing to match the Red vs Yellow theme and made them rivals on top of that.

They were so in love with the fire electric rivalry angle they went balls deep with it even though the region its on is completely poisonous to Fire types because half the continent is a fucking frigid mountain beseiged by countless storming blizzards.

Its a classic example of GF's predilection for boneheaded stubborn decisions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:03:26 No.46494224 Report

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>>46494170
>rapidash sets up the sunny day, can BTFO water, ground, and rock types with solar beam
>infernape is pure sweeper
Thanks for arguments in my favor

>the rest
you're saying what they can do, not that they are better

At least rest can artuclate some logical arguments, This whole post makes me feel bad for you posting it with an image telling us this is "smart"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:03:35 No.46494227 Report

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>>46494214
Why??? Why does it have to remain so fucking easy for you stupid retarded rockbrains????

How old are you? 10? You still need trainers to be one type so you can beat them, stupid faggot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:05:20 No.46494244 Report

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>>46494214
How many dragon-type Pokemon does Raihan, the last gym leader of the latest game, have in his actual gym fight?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:06:18 No.46494254 Report

Quoted By: >>46494266 >>46494290 >>46494315

>>46494021
They literally fixed it in Plat. Why do that if it wasn't their intention?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:07:06 No.46494266 Report

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>>46494254
>fixed
*casualized and desouled

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:09:01 No.46494290 Report

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>>46494254
Flint's team was designed just like Volkner, where both only have 2 pokemon of their type. Volkner could easily have a pachirisu and they didn't bother, which shows it was an intentional decision.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:11:26 No.46494315 Report

Quoted By: >>46494330 >>46494433

>>46494254
If they wanted DP Flint to only have fire pokemon, he would have. Corporate fatasses and children probably complained DP Flint was too soulful so they turned into a monotypefag with only fire pokemon that do nothing interesting so the kiddies could mash Earthquake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:12:54 No.46494330 Report

Quoted By: >>46494365

>>46494315
>If they wanted DP Flint to only have fire pokemon, he would have.
Once again ignoring the fact that they had no choice and they really wanted him be monotype because they fixed him as soon as possible

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:15:59 No.46494356 Report

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>>46493931
There are plenty of romhacks that retain monotype teams while still being difficult

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:16:32 No.46494362 Report

Quoted By:

this is actually an aspect I like about the TCG is you have to pick a type and build around it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:17:12 No.46494365 Report

Quoted By: >>46494504 >>46495067

>>46494330
What do you mean they had no choice? It's as simple as adding more Fire type pokemon. But they didn't. It was an intentional design choice. The pokemon fanbase begged to be challenged and for once Gamefreak listened. The distribution of pokemon and options were restricted and trainers like Flint were super well made. But the fanbase rejected DP which is why Gamefreak had to shit out Platinum and ruin everything DP worked to be. Platinumfag, you killed pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:20:24 No.46494388 Report

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>flint
>noun
>a hard gray rock consisting of nearly pure chert, occurring chiefly as nodules in chalk.
"houses built of brick and flint"
>a piece of flint used with steel to produce an igniting spark, e.g. in a flintlock gun, or (in modern use) a piece of an alloy used similarly, especially in a cigarette lighter.
Steelix is hard and gray like flint, and Flint + Steel = Fire. Which is why it's on Flint's team. But Platinum soiled it by removing Steelix, thus completely trivializing the theme of Flint's name and team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:21:51 No.46494400 Report

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>>46493931
don't care, still using surf 5 times and winning

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:22:15 No.46494405 Report

Quoted By:

>>46494222
>>46494172
There is zero rhyme or reason to Gamefreak's thought processes.

>shill Electivire when Gen 4 is first unveiled
>literally one of the first pokemon shown off in promo material
>only way to even obtain it in the game is to play Diamond/Pearl with FireRed in slot-2 to trigger an 8% encounter rate with Elekid on one (1) single route in the entire game

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Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:23:14 No.46494415 Report

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>THEY'RE NOT A GYM LEADER UNLESS THEY'RE HECCIN MONOTYPE!!!!!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:23:17 No.46494416 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:24:34 No.46494433 Report

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>>46494315
It's pretty clear they were scraping the bottom of the barrel. Think of how unusual it is in the first place for him to have a starter (infernape) on his team. Almost always, starter lines are exclusively reserved for you and your rival(s). The only reason he has an infernape is because there were essentially no alternatives.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:24:50 No.46494438 Report

Quoted By: >>46495623 >>46496677

>>46493931
pic related is how all gym-leader/elite 4 teams should be. Fully-evolved mon as an ace, and a maximum of half the team consisting of Pokemon not of the same type as the Gym Leader/Elite 4 member

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:25:17 No.46494444 Report

Quoted By: >>46495406

>flint
>a hard gray rock consisting of nearly pure chert, occurring chiefly as nodules in chalk.
>a piece of flint used with steel to produce an igniting spark, e.g. in a flintlock gun, or (in modern use) a piece of an alloy used similarly, especially in a cigarette lighter.
Steelix is hard and gray like flint, and Flint + Steel = Fire. Which is why it's on Flint's team. But Platinum soiled it by removing Steelix, thus completely trivializing the theme of Flint's name and team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:33:10 No.46494504 Report

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>>46494365
Ok. Proof?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 20:48:31 No.46494636 Report

Quoted By: >>46495732

I wish all E4 were based like Flint.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 21:35:22 No.46495067 Report

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>>46494365
>It's as simple as adding more Fire type pokemon
Which they did in Platinum,I'm not reading the rest of your sperg out

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 22:03:03 No.46495385 Report

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Beware, based ahead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 22:05:20 No.46495406 Report

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>>46494444
Wow that's a fucking stretch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 22:26:07 No.46495623 Report

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>>46494438
>Brawly and Wattson in the same pose

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 22:30:46 No.46495673 Report

Quoted By:

>>46493931
>male Lopunny
You just know

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 22:37:04 No.46495732 Report

Quoted By: >>46495765

>>46494636
They should have had a Grass specialist in Hoenn due to all the Grass types that were introduced that gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Mar 2021 22:40:59 No.46495765 Report

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>>46495732
Sidney uses 2 grass types, close enought I guess. And Wallace uses a Ludicolo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Mar 2021 00:04:12 No.46496579 Report

Quoted By:

>>46493931
Replace steelix with octillary and lopunny with magmortar and it would have been perfect

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Mar 2021 00:10:06 No.46496628 Report

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>>46493931
Never played DPP because the game was too slow for me so I never got past having a starter, but this team looks pretty imposing actually, at least for a kid at that time period.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Mar 2021 00:17:34 No.46496677 Report

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>>46494438
Wow this is trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Mar 2021 00:21:35 No.46496706 Report

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>>46493992
If you're going to do that be consistent and give every gym leader a wild card pokemon.

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