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>>46517224
It's just an objectively shittier and lazier implementation of overworld encounters that barely even improves the game because you need to already have the Pokemon for it to even be usable and it's still riddled with RNG.

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Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 00:00:33 No.46517246 Report

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>>46517210

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Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 00:01:26 No.46517257 Report

Quoted By: >>46518814

he's not even trying anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 00:01:58 No.46517264 Report

Quoted By: >>46518353 >>46518527

>>46517246
>praising the new games (6-8)
>two of the features OP is saying are bad are from gen 6
You can’t even make your boogieman consistent lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 00:05:03 No.46517294 Report

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>>46517236
>phys/spec split
>not in gen 7 and 8
Did you look before complaining about your zoomer boogeyman?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 00:06:26 No.46517318 Report

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Lol @ people saying it's a bogeyman. There is no Yawnfag it's just agreed that Gen 7 and 8 are the best while Gens 6 and 5 are the worst.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 01:31:54 No.46518283 Report

Quoted By: >>46520352 >>46521250

>>46517240
>It's just an objectively shittier and lazier implementation of overworld encounters that barely even improves the game because you need to already have the Pokemon for it to even be usable and it's still riddled with RNG.
No it's not you dumb fucking retard. DexNav:
>Tells you if you've caught all the Pokemon on a route
>Allows you to recall anything you've caught whenever you want removing all waiting that comes with on-screen, and the RNG of random encounters
>Allows for wild Pokemon with egg moves
You're so fucking stupid. Your parents don't love you. Building on gen 5's habitat feature the Dexnav encourages and rewards dex completion in a way no past game or feature had. It's one of the best things ever added to the series and the fact that it was removed is fucking criminal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 01:33:20 No.46518303 Report

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>>46517210
Post your top three preferred features.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 01:34:16 No.46518313 Report

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>>46517210
How the fuck is physical/special split considered a feature?

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Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 01:36:33 No.46518336 Report

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>>46517240
the fact you were filtered by dexnav is impressive

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 01:38:01 No.46518353 Report

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>>46517264
Yawnfag is only interested in being a contrarian tool. It doesn't matter what game it's from if /vp/ likes it, Yawnfag will find a way to hate it. Yawnfag reguarly bitches about dexnav because he views it as inferior to overworld encounters, and megas are inferior in his eyes to dynamax. If you can't spot individual shitposters based on their specific arguments and posting style you need to lurk more.

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Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 01:48:19 No.46518452 Report

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>>46517210
>split
>""""feature"""
Based retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 01:56:49 No.46518527 Report

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>>46517264
Yawn hates megas. Actually he hates 6 in general, he only appreciates it for making multiplayer easier to use but otherwise he hates 6.

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Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 01:59:16 No.46518551 Report

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>>46517210
>phys/special split
You're a fucking retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 02:09:56 No.46518642 Report

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>>46518527
In general yawnfag only cares about multiplayer. Even when he praises gen 8 it's all about comp QOL.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 02:28:22 No.46518814 Report

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>>46517246
>>46517257
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 02:29:31 No.46518828 Report

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>>46517210
Where's "your Pokemon following you"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 02:34:40 No.46518906 Report

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yawnbitch in shambles

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 02:44:45 No.46519027 Report

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>NOOO MY OVERGLORIFIED BALANCE CHANGE IN A CHILDRENS GAME IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 02:45:51 No.46519043 Report

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>>46517210
The God of Contrarians.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 02:51:10 No.46519094 Report

Quoted By: >>46519702 >>46520662

>>46517210
You mean
>Mega Evolution
>Z-Moves
>Dyna/Gmax

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 03:38:40 No.46519468 Report

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46517210
shit bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 03:45:06 No.46519526 Report

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>>46517210
dexnav is unironically based
>gives you a rough idea of what pokemon are available in an area, don't need to keep checking over and over just in case of something with a 1% encounter rate that you wouldn't ever know about unless checking the wiki
>motherfucking hidden abilities and egg moves attainable on wild pokemon, making them actually usable during a playthrough without having to break the pace of the game halfway through to do some autistic breeding simulator bullshit and grinding the hatchling up to par with your party.

mega evos are fucking dogshit though. The weaker forgotten pokemon should've either gotten direct base stat tweaks or brand new evolutions entirely. As in real evolutions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:09:11 No.46519702 Report

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>>46519094
all of these things were the exact moment I stopped giving a shit about competitive battling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:12:14 No.46519721 Report

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>>46518452
>split
>not a """"feature"""
Based retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:19:45 No.46519789 Report

Quoted By: >>46519792 >>46519838

Physical/special split just make the games better-- I can't go back to any pre-gen 4 games because of it.
Mega was the best gimmick, but still very much a shitty gimmick.
Devnav was a fine feature, but nothing incredible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:20:02 No.46519792 Report

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>>46519789
>Physical/special split just make the games better
how?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:22:09 No.46519810 Report

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>>46518527
Yawnfag seems pretty based, ngl

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:23:42 No.46519820 Report

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>46517210
>Physical/Special split

I know this is bait, but I seriously hope no one genuinely thinks this is a feature, and not a fundamental core game mechanic that's been permanently affixed to the series since it's debut.

>Mega Evolutions

Agreed. Mega Evolution is a dogshit feature. Just give the shitmon an actual new evolution, they did it back in Sinnoh so nothing is stopping them besides their 1000 Pokémon bogeyman. In fact now that we are past the dex cut hurdle there should be no reason why we simply just can't add a fuckton of new Pokémon so long as they remain exclusive per gen.

>DexNav

This was an actual good feature, although it needs some QoL tweaks, especially without a touch screen involves moving forward.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:24:37 No.46519824 Report

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How much are they paying you to cock suck them and say that feature removals are good?

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Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:25:12 No.46519829 Report

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>>46519820
>but I seriously hope no one genuinely thinks this is a feature,
It is a feature, in the same way items and abilities are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:26:09 No.46519838 Report

Quoted By: >>46519925

>>46519789
>I can't go back to any pre-gen 4 games because of it.
you say "go back" as though you didn't grow up with post-split games

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:26:44 No.46519840 Report

Quoted By: >>46519868 >>46521200

>>46517210
People who hate physical/special split are all mentally challenged

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:31:56 No.46519868 Report

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>>46519840
>people who can make movesets without needlessly obsessing over muh STAB or muh min/maxing are mentally challenged

lol ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:34:49 No.46519890 Report

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>>46517210
Sorry but follower pokemon should be there

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:39:29 No.46519925 Report

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>>46519838
I'm 28, mate. First game I played was blue. First game I beat was Gold. First game I owned myself was Emerald. I didn't play past gen 3 until like 8 years ago when I started emulating things.

>>46519792
Makes pokemon that were absolute trash not, and makes it so you don't need to memorize whether each type is special of physical. It also just makes sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:41:31 No.46519936 Report

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>>46519925
>Makes pokemon that were absolute trash not,
No, it doesn't. Pretty much every Pokemon that was trash before the split is still trash after the split.

>and makes it so you don't need to memorize whether each type is special of physical
so instead I need to memorize whether or not every single individual move is physical or special? how does this help at all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:45:08 No.46519959 Report

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>46519829
Not giving you any more replies. Kill yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:45:34 No.46519962 Report

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>>46519936
>so instead I need to memorize whether or not every single individual move is physical or special? how does this help at all?
Moves are labelled.

>Pretty much every Pokemon that was trash before the split is still trash after the split.

I think we might be defining trash differently. I'm not syaing they jumped to OU, I'm saying they went from a struggle to use in-game, to working fine/good in-game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:48:04 No.46519984 Report

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>>46519962
>Moves are labelled.
They could do this without doing the split.

>I'm saying they went from a struggle to use in-game
No they didn't. They struggle just as much. You know that Pokemon also take MORE damage from attacks now that everything can just run the most efficient move, right? Why do splitfags always pretend the Pokemon is somehow getting buffed in a vacuum?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:51:41 No.46520015 Report

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>>46519984
Okay then, at worst it's unecessary but thematically intuitive, and at best it impoves certain mons that couldn't take advantage of their stab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:52:40 No.46520020 Report

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>>46517210
Overrated has no meaning anymore. People just use it to describe a feature they don’t like lol

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Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:53:41 No.46520028 Report

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>>46520015
>and at best it impoves certain mons
where

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Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:55:45 No.46520047 Report

Quoted By: >>46520056

>>46517210
I can get Megas....I can get Dexnav....but I legit don't get why people hate the Split, it helped mons like Sneasel and Absol from being dog shit. If the reason is "this specific pokemon is bad now" shouldn't you be blaming the balancing team instead of a feature in the game?

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Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:56:34 No.46520056 Report

Quoted By: >>46520064 >>46520117 >>46521201

>>46520047
>it helped mons like Sneasel
sneasel is still trash after the split

>and Absol
absol is still trash after the split

Maybe the reason people hate the split is because they actually play the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 04:57:28 No.46520064 Report

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>>46520056
I wasn't super into using those pokemon for competitive, no need to be passive aggressive about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:00:08 No.46520096 Report

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>>46520028
Flareon's better. Leafeon would be worse without it as well. Marshstomp and Gyarados, which I don't think were bad before, but are better with it.
This is just off the top of my head.
Even if you say these are wrong though, at it's worst the split is still an improvement as said in the previous post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:02:23 No.46520116 Report

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>>46520096
>Flareon's better
it's still trash after the split, if anything I'd argue it's even worse, because congrats, now it takes more damage from physical water attackers who can now deal even more damage with their water attacks. Play the game instead of thinking about everything in your imaginary vacuum.

>Marshstomp and Gyarados, which I don't think were bad before, but are better with it
Swampert and Gyarados were two of the best Pokemon of the entire game. Why would I care if they're better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:02:23 No.46520117 Report

Quoted By: >>46520126

>>46520056
I don't play competitve, I play the main series single player portion of the games exclusively, and teaching my swampert a physical water moves feels a hell of a lot better than teaching it a water move knowing that it doesn't work well with my stat pool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:03:39 No.46520126 Report

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>>46520117
>85 special attack
>bad

ok so the split doesn't matter to anyone who doesn't have autism, got it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:06:37 No.46520148 Report

Quoted By: >>46520181

>>46520116
Again, refer to
>>46520015
Even at it's worse it doesn't do anything, but is thematically intuitive,and for a lot of people simply feels better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:08:11 No.46520159 Report

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Literally the only people upset about physical/special split are people still mad that hyper beam gyarados isn't optimal plays anymore

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Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:11:38 No.46520181 Report

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>>46520148
>b-but it's intuitive!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:13:29 No.46520199 Report

Quoted By: >>46520236

>>46520096
>Flareon's better.
yeah I love not being able to use Shadow Ball as a good coverage move on my Flareon anymore! Thanks GF!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:16:03 No.46520216 Report

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Gen 1 Special Stat > Phys/Spec Split > Pre-split

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:17:55 No.46520226 Report

Quoted By: >>46520269

>>46520181
>What are exceptions
I just change them then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:19:53 No.46520236 Report

Quoted By: >>46520257 >>46520263

>>46520199
Wasn't ghost already special? How would the split change it being good coverage at all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:22:11 No.46520257 Report

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>>46520236
ghost was physical and dark was special because Gamefreak is very smort

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:22:39 No.46520263 Report

Quoted By: >>46520270 >>46520275 >>46520324

>>46520236
>Wasn't ghost already special?
No. Shadow Ball was physical. Half the Hidden Power types were also physical. Now I can't use them effectively on my Flareon after the split. What a great feature!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:23:43 No.46520269 Report

Quoted By: >>46520324

>>46520226
if there are random exceptions doesn't that make it LESS intuitive? at least before the split I know that if a pokemon uses a fire move it's always going to be special instead of whatever the fuck arbitrary shit game freak decides for each move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:23:59 No.46520270 Report

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>>46520263
How about an original eeveelutions megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:24:21 No.46520275 Report

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>>46520263
holy shit DSP is that you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:30:30 No.46520324 Report

Quoted By: >>46520386

>>46520263
>>46520257
Jesus that's retarded. Glad they switched it. At least you have a usuable bite now, anon.

>>46520269
No. Exceptions are exceptions. 90+% of the moves make sense, the ones that don't I just change, and all of them are labeled, so if you see wring out and think it's goinging to be physical, you just have to look at it for a second and see that it is not.
I would greatly prefer a handful of moves not making sense over literally entire types not making sense, along with half the moves in each type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:34:20 No.46520352 Report

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>>46518283
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:38:53 No.46520386 Report

Quoted By: >>46520456

>>46520324
>Exceptions are exceptions
so it's less intuitive, got it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:39:35 No.46520388 Report

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>>46517224
This. Only worthwhile part of ORAS. Fuck Delta Episode, I jack it to Zinnia rape porn just on principle. Going through Hoenn and scouring every route for new Pokémon after the league and gradually working your way up a chain was comfy as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:47:06 No.46520435 Report

Quoted By: >>46520450

>>46517210
Physical Special split is one of the best things to happen to this franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:49:52 No.46520450 Report

Quoted By: >>46521169

>>46520435
I can think of a dozen things post-gen 5 alone that are better than the split

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:50:29 No.46520456 Report

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>>46520386
Less intuitive than if they didn't exist, yeah. Much much much more intuitive than the split not existing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 05:56:54 No.46520483 Report

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>>46517246
Schizo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 06:21:42 No.46520606 Report

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>>46517210
>he misses the pre-split meta
Go take your nap granpa

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 06:22:40 No.46520608 Report

Quoted By: >>46520898

>>46517210
Where is dynashit?
Oh right, everybody hates it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 06:35:00 No.46520662 Report

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>>46519094
You forgot regional forms
>top hats
>surfer hair
>mustaches
I almost hate them as much as megas

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 06:46:20 No.46520698 Report

Quoted By: >>46520899 >>46521241

What the fuck is a yawnfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 07:18:08 No.46520886 Report

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>>46517210
>Imagine wanting a world where biting is considered "special" and magical beams of Energy are considered "physical"

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Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 07:20:12 No.46520898 Report

Quoted By: >>46521561

>>46520608
Overrated implies it is given more credit than due; dynamax gets the incredible praise it does because it deserves it and thus is not overrated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 07:20:17 No.46520899 Report

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>>46520698
It's befuddling how often we create names to give to our bogeymen on this board when anyone who goes around as anything other than anonymous causes everyone to act like a bunch of rabid baboons.

I don't know what a yawnfag is either, or a bui, or a bocoe, or australia fag, or whatever else imaginary friend /vp/ has invented over the years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 08:21:38 No.46521169 Report

Quoted By: >>46521192

>>46520450
Name them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 08:27:32 No.46521192 Report

Quoted By: >>46521208

>>46521169
destiny knot breeding
trainer customization
mints
overworld encounters
ability capsule
ability patch
removed HMs
hyper training
surprise trade
pokemon amie
exp candies
egg move learning

all more worth having than the fucking split

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 08:29:51 No.46521200 Report

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>>46519840
Yeah and the main guys also clearly don't even know how to make good casual playthrough movesets let alone competitive in thinking it benefits only STAB (bro just let them use their best attacking stat for as many coverage moves as possible too), and post images of mon dropping from the lowest tier to the new lowest tier to try and prove it screwed over way more Pokemon than it did (and that was only cause GF doesn't give good movesets out easily).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 08:31:35 No.46521201 Report

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>>46520056
Every anti split fag pretty clearly shows they don't actually play the game and just parrot some youtuber or thing being in the same level of tier post split doesn't mean they are stronger within the tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 08:32:50 No.46521205 Report

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>>46520181
Sacred Fire was given the wrong animation compared to what was clearly implied before hand, I know someone else in another thread told you it was initially Flame Wheel but bigger in Gen 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 08:33:57 No.46521208 Report

Quoted By: >>46521336

>>46521192
The function of most of these is to make getting to competitive easier, the split was a change to the gameplay itself, which has more of an impact on competitive obviously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 08:38:43 No.46521241 Report

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>>46520698
Shitposter who got the name because he posts pictures of people yawning for anything he dislikes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 08:40:48 No.46521250 Report

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>>46518283
>You're so fucking stupid. Your parents don't love you.
Based

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Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 09:04:16 No.46521329 Report

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You missed Battle Frontier

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 09:05:20 No.46521336 Report

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>>46521208
>the split was a change to the gameplay itself
and not for the better, which is why it's not as important.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 09:56:53 No.46521561 Report

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>>46520898
what fantasy world are you living in where shitmaxing gets incredible praise?

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Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 10:33:38 No.46521709 Report

Quoted By: >>46521717

>>46519792
it makes pokemon more realistic, ice beam or shadow ball being put into physical is retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Mar 2021 10:35:03 No.46521717 Report

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>>46521709
>it makes pokemon more realistic
>>46520181

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