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Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 10:14:21 No.46580769 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>46580813 >>46581346 >>46581495 >>46584276 >>46584918

Pokemon Rebalancing Thread:
ITT: Buff/Rebalance some of your bros/Pokemon you think need it

Heracross:
New Stats: 80/120/75/40/95/105/BST:520
New Abilities: Sap Sipper/Guts/(HA)Moxie

Lumineon:
New Stats: 79/39/76/99/96/101/BST:490
Water Veil Buff: Water Veil grants the Pokemon Fire-Type immunity, and grants it's allies resistance to Fire-Type moves + burning
New Moves: Quiver Dance, Thunder Wave, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Discharge, Hurricane, Psychic, Dazzling Gleam, Shadow Ball

Incineroar:
New Stats: 95/120/95/65/75/85/BST:535
New Abilities: Quick Feet/Immolate/(HA)Blaze
Immolate: Normal-Type moves become Fire-Type + 1.3x base power

Victribell:
New Stats: 80/70/70/130/95/85/BST:530
New Abilities: Corrosion/Chlorophyll/(HA)Gluttony
Corrosion Buff: Poison-Type moves become supereffective against Steel-Types
New Moves: Nasty Plot, Dark Pulse, Earth Power, Signal Beam, Psychic

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 10:21:49 No.46580813 Report

Quoted By: >>46580852 >>46587689

>>46580769
shedinja
1/130/45/30/30/130
wonderguard now makes the user immune to status and hazards from types it would already be immune to.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 10:27:01 No.46580852 Report

Quoted By: >>46581704 >>46582074

>>46580813
>still keeping it's defensive stats, for some fuckass reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 11:56:14 No.46581346 Report

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>>46580769
bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 12:27:22 No.46581495 Report

Quoted By: >>46581534

>>46580769
just give lumineon tail glow
it's a luminescent fish

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 12:34:16 No.46581534 Report

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>>46581495
Why can't it have both Quiver Dance and Tail Glow?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 13:01:24 No.46581704 Report

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>>46580852
If an ally Baton Passes a Substitute to it, damage to the Sub is calculated with Shedinja's defenses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 13:47:42 No.46582040 Report

Quoted By: >>46582061

Test

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 13:51:17 No.46582061 Report

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>>46582040
icle

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 13:52:45 No.46582074 Report

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>>46580852
? post elo

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 13:57:23 No.46582105 Report

Quoted By: >>46582748 >>46589351

New Stats
>HP 90 (+20)
>Atk 110 (+10)
>Def 115
>Sp. Atk 10 (-20)
>Sp. Def 85 (+20)
>Spd 10 (-20)
New Moves
>Horn Leech
>Body Press

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 15:13:58 No.46582748 Report

Quoted By: >>46582765

>>46582105
Also make it grass type.
For fuck's sake, why is a literal tree not grass?
Dumber than Charizard not being a dragon. Fucking Pokemon logic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 15:15:33 No.46582765 Report

Quoted By: >>46584946

>>46582748
>>46582748
It's not supposed to be a Grass-Type, fuckhead. That would lose the whole concept of the Pokemon you can give it Disguise, though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 18:22:22 No.46584276 Report

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>>46580769
bump

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Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 19:44:56 No.46584918 Report

Quoted By: >>46584973

>>46580769
Bug/Dark
Intimidate
80/90/30/110/50/135
Lunge, Taunt, Dark Pulse, Parting Shot, Nasty Plot, Sticky Web, Gunk Shot, Sludge Wave

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 19:49:33 No.46584946 Report

Quoted By: >>46584966

>>46582765
The problem is that the concept doesn't work because everyone knows it's a Rock-type.
There needs to be a regional Sudowoodo that looks identical and is a Grass-type so people will actually make the mistake of using Fire moves on the original.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 19:52:14 No.46584966 Report

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>>46584946
design concept not gameplay concept
that wouldn't work because the game tells you if a move is super-effective

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 19:53:26 No.46584973 Report

Quoted By: >>46585031

>>46584918
>Intimidate
Literally why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 19:59:12 No.46585031 Report

Quoted By: >>46585108

>>46584973
Its a scary looking ninja bug, it would glare at you and glare at escavalier for stealing its armor

Plus I want it to synergize with parting shot and lunge to help it from being frailbait

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 20:08:07 No.46585108 Report

Quoted By: >>46585135

>>46585031
You can't just slap Intimidate on everything, and expect it to work

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 20:10:54 No.46585135 Report

Quoted By: >>46585163

>>46585108
And you know this how? Im not a smogon no lifer so I just put it there because I liked it. Pray tell how you would buff Accelgor then since my suggestion incensed you so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 20:13:33 No.46585163 Report

Quoted By: >>46585190

>>46585135
It wouldn't be good in Smogon or VGC

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 20:16:18 No.46585190 Report

Quoted By: >>46585212

>>46585163
Still waiting on your idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 20:18:26 No.46585212 Report

Quoted By: >>46585264 >>46585280

>>46585190
I'm taking a huge shit right now. I'lll give it to you when I'm done shitting

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 20:23:46 No.46585264 Report

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>>46585212
Okay. Make it at least UU. I didnt want an overtuned nukebug, but granted I haven't touched competitive since gen 4 so I dont even really know what is needed to help a bug out nowadays

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 20:26:23 No.46585280 Report

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>>46585212
Alright, done shitting. Here's my idea

New Accelgor:

Type: Pure-Bug (Dark isn't too necessary, imo)

New Stats: 80/70/40/115/60/145/BST:510

New Abilities: Storm Strike/Sticky Hold/(HA)Unburden
Storm Strike: 1.5x Attack and Special Attack, while in Rain

New Moves: Nasty Plot, Thunder Wave, Parting Shot, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Shadow Ball, Earth Power, Fake Out

I'm not sure if it would be OU by any means, but these changes will at least make it a lot better, while still being fitting to the theme of the Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 22:51:59 No.46586436 Report

Quoted By: >>46591540

What Accelgor really needs is bulk.
Give it high bulk and high speed and have it be a support mon.
That way it's basically immune to powercreep.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Mar 2021 22:57:40 No.46586482 Report

Quoted By: >>46587461

85
115 +10
65 +20
80
60 +20
115
525 bst
Ability: Gale Wings but water

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Mar 2021 00:53:29 No.46587461 Report

Quoted By: >>46588826

>>46586482
>Gale Wings but water
Current Fins?

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Anonymous Wed 17 Mar 2021 01:11:14 No.46587601 Report

Quoted By: >>46588765 >>46588778 >>46591459

Grass/Ice
1/1/1/1/1/1
Abilities: Slow Start, Truant, Defeatist

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Mar 2021 01:24:24 No.46587689 Report

Quoted By: >>46588845 >>46589555 >>46590709

>>46580813
That's a bit too OP, since you're essentially combining magic guard + wonder guard.
I think it should be immune to entry hazards though. So, for example, it wouldn't get poisoned from toxic spikes, but it would get poisoned from someone using toxic. It'd also still take sandstorm damage, but at least that way you could equip it with safety goggles

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Mar 2021 03:32:31 No.46588765 Report

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>>46587601
AG at worst.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Mar 2021 03:34:02 No.46588778 Report

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>>46587601
Nice RU pick

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Mar 2021 03:41:04 No.46588826 Report

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>>46587461
This or Jet Tails

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Mar 2021 03:43:14 No.46588845 Report

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>>46587689
Shedinja should take chip damage that's associated with types it's weak to.
So it should get hurt by burn because it's weak to fire, and hurt by stealth rock and sandstorm because it's weak to rock, but not get hurt by poison or spikes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Mar 2021 04:51:26 No.46589351 Report

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>>46582105
New Ability: Camouflage, can only be targeted directly if it has performed an offensive move or it is the only opposing pokemon.

Doubles utility skill that works nicely with wide guard, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Mar 2021 05:17:46 No.46589555 Report

Quoted By: >>46590582

>>46587689
itd still die to stealth rock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Mar 2021 08:14:29 No.46590582 Report

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>>46589555
>immune to entry hazards
>itd still die to stealth rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Mar 2021 08:35:43 No.46590709 Report

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>>46587689
Yeah thats why it was implied that it would still take damage from entry hazards, status, and weather that was super effective against it. I.E. still dying from stealth rock, burn, and sandstorm. Coupled with the fact that sheddy can also be killed by FIVE different types, most of them common, I think it’s pretty balanced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Mar 2021 11:27:01 No.46591459 Report

Quoted By:

>>46587601
>Grass/Ice
>not Bug/Ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Mar 2021 11:47:01 No.46591540 Report

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>>46586436
It's a ninja. Ninjas aren't bulky. It needs power

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