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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 02:28:08 No.46598412 View View Reply Original Report

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How would you raise the difficulty of the games and how hard would it be? Would there be difficulty options?

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 02:28:51 No.46598422 Report

Quoted By: >>46598431

I WOULD ADD MAY'S TIGHT CHILD PUSSY SEXSEXSEX

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 02:30:42 No.46598431 Report

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>>46598422
based

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 02:31:52 No.46598439 Report

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Honestly, Pokemon should be the Kirby of JRPGs. Which is to say, main game is a breeze, but it gets progressively harder as you get into more postgame content. I also think Pokemon needs to meet the minimum quality standard of Kirby games, and they rarely reach that. Heck, you can say that Kirby has better story and lore than Pokemon, if you want.

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 02:35:22 No.46598462 Report

Quoted By: >>46598469 >>46598902

>>46598412
Normal - No items
Hard - Items

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 02:36:24 No.46598469 Report

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>>46598462
And better move set like in B2W2

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 02:48:16 No.46598558 Report

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>>46598412
yeah, I figure difficulty options would probably be the best way to do it. Millions of fucking people play this shit and they all seem to want something different, so let's give them something a little different.

>easy - about as hard as some of the modern games, sans sm
>normal - about as difficult as things used to be
>hard - about as hard as a normal jrpg, nothing too crazy

I like the idea of the xp share. It's a great way to let players raise more than 6 guys during a playthrough, but it also creates a number of other issues. Chief among them being that teams of 6 or less become hilariously over leveled.

I would keep it in each of these hypothetical modes, but hard mode would change how it works slightly and have a more aggressive level curve.

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 02:49:50 No.46598568 Report

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>>46598412
>How would you raise the difficulty of the games

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 02:53:31 No.46598591 Report

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>make more npcs use items
>give more npcs non meme move sets
>give late game npcs 4+ perfect ivs and good natures in addition to non meme sets
>every battle is doubles and most npcs after the halfway point have at least a basic team that works with this (ie one mon casting shit like rain and the other spamming thunder)
>remove exp share
>all gyms now have 2 types instead of just 1
>you cannot leave the gym to heal after entering, if you black out you have to beat every trainer again

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 02:54:35 No.46598596 Report

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>>46598412
Honestly I would just make it so gym leaders get to 6 pokemon faster. You no longer are forced to use bug flying and normal pokemon at the start of the game and can get fairly varied teams in modern games early on and the gym leaders should be changed to accommodate that.

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 02:56:04 No.46598606 Report

Quoted By: >>46598976

>>46598568
Does it get hard? I never finished it

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 02:58:56 No.46598627 Report

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Coom challenge
You can only catch a pokemon if you find an image of it and coom to it irl
You can only heal at a pokemon center if you coom to pics of your party irl, one coom each poke
If your poke evolves, you must stop what you're doing and coom to a pic of the evo

If you are unable to coom, you must release the pokes you were unable to coom to

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 03:34:53 No.46598902 Report

Quoted By: >>46600520

>>46598462
in battle or at all? The pokemon league would be insane if none at all

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 03:37:18 No.46598926 Report

Quoted By: >>46601566

>>46598412
HOW TO RAISE DIFFICULTY:
> Make Gyms force the player and Gym leader to be equal
> Forcing the player to select part of their team to fight with if the gym leader has less than 6 pokemon
> Limit each side to one item
> Increase trainer AI overall
> Make Gym Leaders either use ungabunga strats or switching big brains
> FINALLY, ITEMS on all the pokemon

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 03:40:06 No.46598941 Report

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>>46598412
trainers have several pokemon, with good moves, and full EV training, good natures, and held items. gym leaders have full roster and their teams scale to the player

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 03:42:02 No.46598956 Report

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>>46598412
Just make all the gym battles like battle facilities/WiFi battles all your pokémon are now lv 50, same for the gym leader, set style and no items.

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 03:43:58 No.46598976 Report

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>>46598606
ultra sun/moon arguably have the best difficulty curve if you stay properly levelled and dont grind. i actually had a pretty epic experience breeding a team for the elite four. fought them using no items and being 7 levels below them (at the start of the e4, so i was 46 they were 53). that battle with kukui was absolutely epic and it took me several attempts

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 03:45:49 No.46598994 Report

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>held items on every pokemon from every significant NPC
>set mode only
>level caps to force players to strategise
>no bag items in battle (except pokeballs obviously)
>IVs increase on enemy pokemon as you progress, E4 and champion have perfect IVs
>late game significant trainers have EVs and optimal natures
>NPC teams are designed around a theme and have synergy (a rain team having an Electric type for Thunder or a Flying type for Hurricane, a Chlorophyll user on the Fire type team, etc.)

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 07:06:51 No.46600048 Report

Quoted By: >>46601005

>>46598412
Things they could do:
>Unique trainers (rivals, admins, special characters), gym leaders and gym trainers teams have a set minimal level but otherwise scale with trainer's highest leveled pokemon if your highest leveled pokemon is more than 5 or so levels higher than their ace
>Unique trainers, gym leaders and strong generic trainers (ace trainer/veterans) make use of held items and or use sometimes use things like X items
>More generic NPC trainers have 3-4 pokemon instead of just 1
>Gym leaders, unique trainers and strong generic trainers have better move sets that make use of an actual strategy (similar to Pokemon Stadium/Colosseum)
>Improved trainer AI in general (also similar to Pokemon Stadium/Colosseum)
>EXP share received at/after postgame on hard difficulty setting along with SET mode being forced until/after postgame as well

They don't have to do all of these but even one or two would significantly increase the difficulty. I think a game like Colosseum had perfectly reasonable difficulty

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 07:14:55 No.46600073 Report

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>>46598412
step one, re-add random pokemon encounters.

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 07:16:28 No.46600080 Report

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>>46598412
Level cap

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 09:13:14 No.46600520 Report

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>>46598902
I imagine that anon meant in battle but I always try to do no items for the pokemon league, it's a really fun challenge.

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 10:45:40 No.46600926 Report

Quoted By: >>46601384 >>46601646

>>46598412
adjust the opponents level to yours. Harder bosses like evil team boss, gym leaders and elite 4 are a few above by default, except if you are level 100 ofcourse. Also, let them carry items fitting to their Pokemon and movesets, and let them choose attacks effective against your mons.
Difficulty settings would look like this:
easy: Game as it is right now
medium: Like I described above, level adjustment with items and useful attacks
hard: level adjustment always a few levels above, items held and attacks are always choosen when a trainer engages into battle with the enemy. So the enemy will get new attacks and items specificly for your current team.

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 11:01:56 No.46601005 Report

Quoted By: >>46601405

>half money received
By the third gym most games shower you in money
>limit every non pokeball to only one per battle
Items stay usable and spam dies out
>better movesets
I'm not suggesting compfag smogon top 5 sets level but give more things coverage
>give late game trainers full teams
Full teams should not only be for the champ, dival, and magikarp funnyman
>forced set mode
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>progressively better ev/ivs
Also ev/ivs would be based on trainer class (youngster would have seemingly random spreads, swimmer would be focused on hp/speed, students would be low ev/iv but in the right stats, ace trainers would nearly be min maxed, bikers would bias toward speed etc)
All of >>46600048 too

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 11:49:35 No.46601240 Report

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limit pp to 10 or less for every move. it's basically a pointless mechanic with how high some moves get and how often you can get to pokemon centers

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 12:18:24 No.46601372 Report

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Drastically increase the difficulty curve by:
>restricting pokes' movepools heavily
>cutting out most TMs except for standard coverage moves (elemental punches/fangs), utility (protect/detect), overworld interaction moves (Rock Smash, Whirlpool, Flash, etc)
>give shitmons and esp. rare shitmons very desirable moves to encourage hunting pokes
>shit abilities become much more useful abilities on evolution (Run Away > Speed Boost, Klutz > Unburden, etc)
>place a larger emphasis on breeding through in-game tools that explain egg moves, nature breeding, etc
>have late-game moves that can only be learned by holding on to midgame moves until a certain level
>later game trainers have increasingly more optimized Pokes from breeding mechanics that the player will need to keep up with

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 12:21:16 No.46601384 Report

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>>46600926
This would be impossible to implement realistically unless you had a L4D style 'director' AI. Which would be pretty sick.

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 12:27:00 No.46601405 Report

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>>46601005
Focusing entire trainer classes around certain stat types and all that is over-specialized. Only hardcore autist nuzlockers are really going to switch their teams around to deal with stat spreads they can't even see in-game.
Plus it limits how creative you can be in-game. Its always fun to find that one trainer that breaks their classes' mold. There just needs to be more incentive to re-battle generic trainers and have their stats and teams be more memorable. Maybe as a way of grinding weaker mons in old areas.

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 12:30:20 No.46601422 Report

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>>46598412
Adding more optional dungeon/victory road style routes which will mostly reward players with tm/legendarys

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 12:41:20 No.46601483 Report

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>>46598596
Maybe changing the time you are supposed to fight the gyms?

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 12:46:10 No.46601515 Report

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>>46598412
I would make it very simple:
>Two modes you select at the beginning, also dependent on your avatar
>Child
>(Young) adult
>Child mode is as normal, you play some dumb fuck kid and it's set to Battle Style: Switch
>Adult mode has you play as a taller character and Battle Style: Set
>Both modes have a secondary toggle which is made very accessible and obvious, which toggles all battles to either Single or Double battles
>This means that every single trainer MUST have at least two Pokémon
>It also means that by selecting doubles you can up the complexity and difficulty independent of the overall difficulty

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 12:52:48 No.46601566 Report

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>>46598926
I dont think making AI switch heavy will make things more difficult they tend to be exploitable I think making them have more Hyper Offense styled teams makes abit more sense since the current AI alligns more with the playstyle.

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 12:57:35 No.46601606 Report

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>>46598412
Remove EVs.

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 13:02:21 No.46601646 Report

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>>46600926
One thing to note is that super effective isnt always better for example ice fang x2 =130 while cross chop+STAB=150

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 13:25:48 No.46601778 Report

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>>46598439
Kirby's lore is pretty insane, but I dunno if I'd say its better since its so disjointed. Otherwise fine post.

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Anonymous Thu 18 Mar 2021 13:33:44 No.46601830 Report

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>>46598412
>3 difficulty options
>Gym Leaders, E4 members, and evil team bosses all have 6 Pokemon
There I made the games fairly difficult.

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