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I once made a VGC team with a Gmax Duraludon that had investment in every stat other than attack. It was EV'd very specifically to survive 2 or 3 certain matchups and OHKO back.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 00:46:19 No.46618049 Report

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>>46617590
That's how you know Doubles is the best format

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 01:19:56 No.46618354 Report

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>>46617590
This shit has been done by the the west for a decade. Why the hell is it called "chinese" ev spread?

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 01:26:05 No.46618418 Report

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>>46617801
Weird and janky EV spreads.
Spreads designed to hit certain speed or damage benchmarks against certain threats.
Popularized by the Chinese meta, which evolved way differently from the western one.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 01:37:26 No.46618517 Report

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>>46618418
>which evolved way differently from the western one.
Yeah I see a bunch of chinks in top 8. They must be doing something right

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 01:38:37 No.46618527 Report

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>>46618354
coined by emvee afaik

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 03:45:13 No.46619651 Report

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https://arcadex.io/damage/ou
This is a good calculator if you want to make your own Chinese spreads but don't have the instincts for it like Emvee does.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 03:48:04 No.46619667 Report

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They should just let you max out all your stats
Mixed attackers would all be useful this way

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 03:52:23 No.46619697 Report

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>>46617896
>>46618418
I don't play competitive but smogon sets have always had specific EV spreads to "KO X, survive X, and out speed scarfed X." How is Chinese EV different from that?

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 04:53:47 No.46620135 Report

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>>46617801
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk78zXuYQvQ
Skim through this video for examples. Or just look at this
https://pokepast.es/72128d3d1be9b564

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 07:58:25 No.46620935 Report

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Aren't Chinese spreads also a form of minmaxing?
The whole goal is to use the minimum number of EV's to most efficiently beat the maximum number of threats.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 08:18:55 No.46620990 Report

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>>46617768
7 inches

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 08:21:21 No.46621003 Report

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>>46619697
A lot of smogon is 252/252/4 and if not then you're really only taking from one of the 252s and adding it to the 4. Rarely will you have EV spreads of 4 stats, never 5. Chinese EVs will add to 5 and sometimes even 6 to make up for a negative nature. That's the difference

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 08:56:52 No.46621121 Report

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>>46619697
Only rarely.
Look up Smogon sets and you'll see that the vast majority are 252/252/4. Maybe 252/248/8 if it requires an odd number of HP.
And you'll only see -Atk and -SpA natures. -Spe also appears, but only on TR teams.

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