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Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 16:10:07 No.46633262 View View Reply Original Report

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How would you buff Zoroark?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 16:11:19 No.46633269 Report

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>>46633262
i wouldn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 16:12:33 No.46633277 Report

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protean

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Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 16:12:38 No.46633278 Report

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Give it Imposter as a hidden ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 16:12:40 No.46633279 Report

Quoted By: >>46634172

>>46633262
No team preview

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 16:12:44 No.46633280 Report

Quoted By: >>46634172

>>46633262
Dark/Fairy
Get rid of team preview

There I fixed it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 16:13:03 No.46633284 Report

Quoted By: >>46633977 >>46635936

>>46633262
Illusion now confuses the enemy that hit it, bam

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 16:13:55 No.46633291 Report

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>>46633262
Make it so that it takes 1/2 damage from any move that hits it while it’s illusion is up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 16:56:40 No.46633617 Report

Quoted By: >>46634084

>>46633262
>Mega Zoroark
>HP: 65>65
>Attack: 105>125
>Defense: 60>80
>Sp. Atk: 120>140
>Sp. Def: 60>80
>Speed: 105>125
>Ability: Deception
>When a Pokemon on your team is sent out, it takes on the appearance of Mega Zoroark
until it takes damage from a damaging move.

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Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 17:32:25 No.46633977 Report

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>>46633284
Oh shit bros...

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Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 17:33:21 No.46633984 Report

Quoted By: >>46634172

>>46633262
Remove team preview.
>Create trickery-based new gen shillmon
>Make its ability nigh worthless by implementing team preview
Game Freak's decisions never cease to baffle me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 17:44:46 No.46634084 Report

Quoted By: >>46634928

>>46633617
Wait, but how would that work?
Zoroark would need to mega evolve first, then switch out, then the next mon sent out would appear to be Mega Zoroark?

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Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 17:54:38 No.46634172 Report

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>>46633279
>>46633280
>>46633984
Getting rid of team preview wouldn't do shit
>With team preview
"The opponent has a Zoroark so do I hit this and hope it isn't a Zoroark? Or do I play around it to figure it out?"
>Without team preview, and Zoroark is a prevalent meta force
"The opponent could have a Zoroark so do I hit this and hope it isn't a Zoroark? Or do I play around it to figure it out?"
It's the same dynamic

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Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 19:11:34 No.46634786 Report

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Give it STAB based on the type of Pokemon it copies.

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Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 19:14:24 No.46634803 Report

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>>46634172
Really? I just click whatever's super effective in front of me. Brain games are not my forte so I go full glass cannon

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Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 19:16:25 No.46634828 Report

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>>46634803
>wow this Regieleki switched in in front of my Gastrodon, better hit it with Earth Power!

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Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 19:20:20 No.46634859 Report

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>>46634828
Well yeah, don't you want to win? Why hit it with a not very effective move?

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Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 19:28:43 No.46634928 Report

Quoted By: >>46636393 >>46638118

>>46634084
Yeah.
Zoroark can also Mega Evolve whilst under the normal effects of Illusion, so you could lead with it disguised as something else, then BOOM! everything in your team looks like Mega Zoroark once sent out. Obviously the thing after you evolve isn't going to be Mega Zoroark, but after that, all bets are off. It's flipping the mind games; instead of guessing which one IS Zoroark, they have to guess which ones AREN'T Zoroark.

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Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 20:35:28 No.46635569 Report

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>>46634859
Yeah bro, your opponent is just dumb and that's definitely not a Zoroark about to OHKO your slug with a grass knot.

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Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 21:28:56 No.46635936 Report

Quoted By: >>46637151

>>46633262
>Attack 105 > 70
>Sp. Attack 120 > 130
>Defense 60 > 60
>Sp. Defense 60 > 60
>HP 60 > 60
>Speed 105 > 130
>Total 510 > 510
>>46633284
>Illusion now confuses the enemy if the move used on Zoroark isn't very effective, neutral or doesn't affect Zoroark. Illusion only lasts for 3 turns or when Zoroark is hit.

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Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 22:36:28 No.46636393 Report

Quoted By: >>46640171

>>46634928
Oh you meant ALL of your mons become Mega Zoroark?
Yeah, I can get behind that.

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Anonymous Sun 21 Mar 2021 22:40:38 No.46636428 Report

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HA Disguise

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Anonymous Mon 22 Mar 2021 00:10:44 No.46637151 Report

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>>46635936
>just minmax it, lmao

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Anonymous Mon 22 Mar 2021 01:31:29 No.46637837 Report

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>>46633262
Dark/Fairy
It's ability acts like ice face and disguise but it also changes Zoroarks form

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Anonymous Mon 22 Mar 2021 02:05:54 No.46638118 Report

Quoted By: >>46640171

>>46634928
I love this idea for Mega Zoroark.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Mar 2021 04:10:49 No.46638955 Report

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Illusion stays up until it faints, and it's better at lying.
If Zoroark takes damage while in disguise, the opponent sees it take as much damage as the mon it's pretending to be would have.
And if Zoroark uses a move, it appears to be using one of the moves that the mon it's pretending to be knows (matched to each moveslot), unless the move directly affects the opponent. So Nasty Plot can be disguised as Swords Dance, but Dark Pulse can't be disguised as Close Combat.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Mar 2021 04:33:30 No.46639082 Report

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>>46633262
>while illusion is active, zoroark's icon in team preview appears as the icon of a diferent random pokemon instead (so it cancels out team preview but isn't perfect: if you get something fishy like the icon of a mon that's already in your party, a NFE, a legendary, etc. an observant opponent might realise)
Or
>make night daze zoroark exclusive again (sorry lunala), 110BP instead of 85 and disguise itself as the move in the equivalent slot of the copied ally's set (so for example you appear as a feraligatr with liquidation; dark is very good neutral coverage, so if the opponent isn't paying attention to damage numbers or type effectiveness it might slip right through; also STAB 110BP with zoroark's SpA is good damage).

The rest is up to the player's skill and strategy when choosing the illusion ally.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Mar 2021 09:04:43 No.46640171 Report

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>>46636393
Doubles up on the kabuki theme, too. It's like a kabuki theatre play, but now all the main characters are disguised as kuroko instead of vice versa.

>>46638118
Thanks. As someone who uses Zoroark on the regular it's the most natural expansion to its skillset I can think of.

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