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Being faithful is fine, being chibi is fine
It's the models themselves that look bad. They have really long limbs with no torso and when they move its like they are rigged to jelly bones

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 03:37:32 No.46686570 Report

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>>46686515
it is when it's a Pokemon game.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 03:40:49 No.46686583 Report

Quoted By: >>46686620 >>46687243 >>46689406 >>46690848

Wait are we getting dpp remakes?

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 03:47:10 No.46686620 Report

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>>46686583
Are you serious?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 04:08:16 No.46686761 Report

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>>46686515
Depends. Did you want a remake, or a remaster?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 04:10:45 No.46686772 Report

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>>46686515
when its $60 yes

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Unovasneed Sat 27 Mar 2021 04:25:12 No.46686844 Report

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>>46686515
faithful doesn't translate to a literally 1 for 1 remake of the game with everything the same

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 04:27:51 No.46686857 Report

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>>46686515
Worthless remakes, zero reason to play them over Platinum.
Previous remakes were made based on if the original games were made in the current gen with all the new things that come with that gen. HGSS builds off Platinum and ORAS builds off XY. Here they just took DP and recreated it with ugly models, zero ambition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 04:28:49 No.46686863 Report

Quoted By: >>46688463 >>46688707

>>46686515
Yes.
They shouldn't be making a 1:1 recreation of the original. If they're going to do that, they might as well just port the game.
They should be making the game that the original could've been if they had the technology of 2021 back in 2006. The games are the way they are because of hardware limitations, and those limitations have been pushed way further now.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 04:45:24 No.46686966 Report

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>>46686553
Fuck off Yawnfag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 04:51:17 No.46686999 Report

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>>46686564
and the fingers are disgusting
animal crossing hand balls would be fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 04:52:26 No.46687008 Report

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>>46686515
Different developers can attempt to remake a game while being faithful to the original and end up with very different products. As it stands, BDSP look bad. And with the current gaming industry trend of pumping out unpolished titles, I'm not getting my hopes up.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 05:02:29 No.46687050 Report

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>>46686515
It's good if I like it and bad if I don't

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 05:40:36 No.46687209 Report

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>>46686515
The true blackpill is realizing that everyone would have complained regardless of how it was done because that's all pokemon fans do anymore. If it hadn't been faithful and in the style of Sword and Shield people would have complained. If it looked like a PS5 title people would have complained. If it gave you a blowjob and a rimjob at the same time while vacuuming your floor people would have complained. etc. etc.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 05:44:36 No.46687229 Report

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No, but Disney took greater creative liberties with their remakes and look how those turned out. Let’s try not to stray too far if we can help it.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 05:47:19 No.46687238 Report

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>>46686515
This isn't faithful

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 05:47:41 No.46687243 Report

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>>46686583
Unfortunately, yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 05:47:46 No.46687245 Report

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>>46687238
Looks faithful to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 05:48:51 No.46687254 Report

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>>46687008
It'd probably be just as bad if Game Freak did it. Either way, BDSP and the similarly-maligned LGPE were both directed by Masuda.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 05:53:19 No.46687275 Report

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>>46687245

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 05:57:24 No.46687294 Report

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>>46687275
>yawnfag

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 06:00:33 No.46687310 Report

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>>46686515
Let me ask you this: What reason is there to buy the remake with questionably "better" graphics if it's 100% faithful to the original?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 06:01:17 No.46687313 Report

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>>46686515
There is such a thing as being too faithful and yes. DiaPer is dogshit compared to Platinum..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 06:02:18 No.46687320 Report

Quoted By: >>46687328

>>46687310
Shut up it's Pokemon! CONSOOM PRODUCT!

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 06:03:49 No.46687327 Report

Quoted By: >>46687761 >>46689522 >>46690015 >>46694452

>>46687310
New content like types and newer mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 06:03:58 No.46687328 Report

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>>46687320
Exactly. /thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 06:08:19 No.46687347 Report

Quoted By: >>46687361 >>46687477

>>46686515
Yes, those faggot bitches in gamefreak could just re-release the original fucking games if they thought fans wanted a fucking dumb ass faithful bitch ass experience, what's the fucking point of doing "faithful" remakes, you're supposed to do remakes to fix the fucking flaws of the original game and wow people with the new fucking presentation. Every fucking one of these shit brained old faggots working for gamefreak should all have committed ritual suicide by now for failing to live up to other franchises, much less their own fucking franchise, even their own remakes are better than this shit because they didn't fucking worry so fucking much about sticking to the original blueprint to THIS FUCKING EXTENT, not even ORAS did this shit, but here we are on a fucking console with more horsepower and resources than have EVER been available to gamefreak before, and what the fuck did they do? They give us fucking funko pop looking bullshit that is square for square a remake of the DS game. How does the Gameboy Advance remake look more like a good game than a remake on more advance hardware of a game that was originally released on more advance hardware. Gamefreak is FUCKING

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 06:13:14 No.46687361 Report

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>>46687347
Relax, anon. Just play a romhack.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 06:15:30 No.46687371 Report

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>>46687361

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 06:16:38 No.46687374 Report

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>>46686564
It's the animations

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 06:17:29 No.46687379 Report

Quoted By: >>46687387 >>46696939

>>46687371
Then do us all a favor and turn that gun on yourself already. Not like you can disappoint your mother any more than you already have. Would probably be a bit of a relief for her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 06:17:48 No.46687380 Report

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>>46686515
When “faithful” means literal tile for tile remake with a worse art style, yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 06:20:18 No.46687387 Report

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>>46687379
Faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 06:21:21 No.46687393 Report

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>>46687387
Do it. Pull the trigger. End their misery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 06:45:56 No.46687477 Report

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>>46687347
>you're supposed to do remakes to fix the fucking flaws of the original game
I don't think any remake has ever done that.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 07:05:37 No.46687549 Report

Quoted By: >>46687799 >>46688222 >>46688465

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3btATgwOUFg
GAMEFREAK
HIRE
THIS
MAN

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 07:06:16 No.46687552 Report

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>>46686515
yes because it means you're just paying for a pointless $60 port.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 07:57:33 No.46687750 Report

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>>46686515
Yes. Pokemon gains nothing from being remastered. Copy/paste trees and grass tiles don't magically stop looking shitty just because it's in HD.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 07:59:49 No.46687761 Report

Quoted By: >>46687791

>>46687327
And they're worth $60 to you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 08:09:00 No.46687787 Report

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>>46687477
FireRed/LeafGreen were basically made to fix all of the issues with Gen 1 and to bring all the pokemon back to compatible hardware. That's really why they exist and how pokemon realised they could make money by just making the same game again but slightly better.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 08:10:42 No.46687791 Report

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>>46687761
If I was into modern competitive pokemon or really interested in having newer guys on my team yeah, yeah. That being said I'd probably just play Renegade Platinum instead if I was itching to revisit Sinnoh.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 08:14:57 No.46687799 Report

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>>46687549
This, I would be interested. Not enough to make me buy after all the shit we went through, but please understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 08:15:24 No.46687800 Report

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>>46686966
>Everyone who dislikes a pokemon game is yawnfag
Not him but he's right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 08:20:05 No.46687811 Report

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>>46686515
Being faithful to the source material is fine but there's a difference between having respect for what came before and licking what came before's boots in hopes that you'll get a semblance of what people liked about what came before to rub off on you.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 08:24:27 No.46687827 Report

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>>46686515
Yeah honestly. Only retards and normies refuse to emulate. I don't see the value in a remake that is 100% faitful, on top of looking worse.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 08:27:26 No.46687833 Report

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Looks worse than ORAS, worse than original DPP and it doesn't have any of the newer features or pokemon that would make buying an updated version worth it. They stopped putting effort into the games slowly over the years, but it's been complete shit after USUM

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 08:27:41 No.46687835 Report

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Its funny, i think those games will be great since Gamefreak and TPCi dont have to invent the wheel there, any can actually focus on the stuff they already have.
I replayed platinum recently (big mistake, finished a day after the games were announced after not having touched those games for years) but i am excited, even though it looks like the links awakening remake.

Because...we´ve seen what the "little indie studio" did for Sword&Shield. That embarrasment of a game. "Prease understando"

So, im fine with the look, as long as they are faithful, and the dexcut maybe got backtracked. i know they said that this will be the norm from SwSh going on, but we know how companies revoke their statements.

Having more than the 380-ish pokemon available, and maybe a good battle zone for postgame with different facilities, who know if they suprise us (I know, im a believer...)

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 08:34:31 No.46687855 Report

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Yes. But being faithful and ugly isn't. What's the point of a remake that likely won't have anything too new from the originals while also visually inferior, when you can just play the original game. At least if it was the SWSH style, it would be a somewhat unique experience and could look good in its own way

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 08:55:36 No.46687906 Report

Quoted By: >>46688824

>>46686515
Not really, people got there hopes up after let's go.
And normally remakes use the current games graphical capabilities.
So when they came out with this it was a shock.

That being said. The limeless character models are kind of jarring since the lighting is poor, everything looks like a knock off mobile game instead of something made for a 25th anniversary thing.

>>46687310
Inability or lack of know how to get a working emulator going or some other reason they cant get a hold of it. Or maybe just something to tide them over till future content.
Plus online battles and bank functionality for mon not available in SNS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 09:41:19 No.46688010 Report

Quoted By: >>46688242

>>46686515
Not inherently. For me the problem is that the previous remakes established a framework of "original game, but updated and expanded". New updated character designs, new story content and new dialogue etc, that give the remake its own flavor distinct from the game it's based on. Of course we've only seen one single trailer for the D/P remakes, but right now it seems like a straight up tile-for-tile exact remake with nothing new added, so then what's the point of buying these if I can play the originals? I'm also not a fan of the plasticy extremely saturated art style, but that's the lesser of the two problems imo

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 09:44:48 No.46688023 Report

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>>46686515
No point in playing when Platinum exists.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 10:01:07 No.46688062 Report

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>>46687791
>That being said I'd probably just play Renegade Platinum instead if I was itching to revisit Sinnoh.
Dangerously based.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 10:36:30 No.46688153 Report

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>>46686515
In this way. Yes, it is.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 10:50:36 No.46688186 Report

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>>46686515
Yes, it's a bad thing.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 11:00:07 No.46688210 Report

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>>46686515
Yes

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 11:04:45 No.46688222 Report

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>>46687549
Just play LA

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 11:09:56 No.46688242 Report

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>>46688010
This, the unique spins and reimagined flavor were one of the appeals of Pokemon remakes compared to other games. Like what's even there to be hyped for? Graphics aren't impressive, likely no new character designs or forms or even new story beats. At best, it's going to probably be a slightly off-looking Platinum with QoL features you can experience in any other modern Pokemon game, and even then, there's a good chance that Platinum features won't even be included

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 12:14:03 No.46688463 Report

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>>46686863
>They should be making the game that the original could've been if they had the technology of 2021 back in 2006
this

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 12:14:49 No.46688465 Report

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>>46687549
God, I am so triggered by those out-of-place character designs from Galar.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 12:16:31 No.46688470 Report

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>>46687750
But it's in HD!

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 12:16:56 No.46688473 Report

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>>46686515
It is when you’re charging double the price for what is essentially a remaster

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 13:21:49 No.46688707 Report

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>>46686863
Thank you.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 13:24:29 No.46688721 Report

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>>46687209
Anon, I think you're just too jaded about how the internet runs things under the microscope. There's no such thing as a game or any such work so perfect no one has a bad thing to say about it, ever.

You can't please everyone, you can only hope to find people that are balanced enough to acknowledge strengths and weaknesses. Having an "all or nothing" attitude about how a work should be received is going to drive you mad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 13:24:44 No.46688722 Report

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>>46687209
Yes, but certain complaints are more justified. You can’t just say “oh people will complain at anything” and blindly ignore all complaints, regardless of how legitimate and justifiable they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 13:25:03 No.46688726 Report

Quoted By: >>46689360

>>46686553
Wrong gen 4 is the best Pokemon gen

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 13:31:04 No.46688746 Report

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>>46686515
Yknow, shot for shot comparison images like this make me sort of like how it looks, especially the Drifloon. It’s a damn shame we won’t get following pokemon in this cus I would adore having that cute little thing trail behind me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 13:33:45 No.46688751 Report

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>>46686515
The fact that the long grass is in perfectly square patches, with each tuft of grass being identical, was eyebrow-raising in the originals, and is completely unforgivable for a modern Switch game.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 13:38:10 No.46688764 Report

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>>46686515
It depends
When the remake costs the same as a fucking AAA game in the same console, then fuck off with your faithfulnes. You have 90% of the game already done and still have decide to increase the goddamn pricetag

Also, FUCK faithfulfags. The faithful buzzword is beyond fucking retarded.
>hurrrrr it's fine that the remake is shit because it's supposed to be faithfull!!

Yeah, it having more than 493 pokemons make it faithful. It giving new forms to Dialga and Palkia makes it faithful. It deleting the game corner is peak f a i t h f u l. Removing the need to have a HM slave is also very faithful (just like my Tepig). You know what's also faithful? Not having the poketch and having to pay to use the online features

tl;dr; no, I'd rather have an actual remake than this scam

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 13:55:27 No.46688824 Report

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>>46687310
"Faithful" isn't even true because it's on a console with a single screen. Even if that didn't count, then yeah, the idea that people are speaking praises as if this standard of remake was falling bread from heaven shows the kind of cult like behavior fans have to excuse poor choices.

To me, a game remake should expand on the experience of the original. If not to implement quality of life changes then to at least show the game's world in a new light. What made Fire Red and Leaf Green more than just a revisit was that it was Kanto in full blown color in levels not even Crystal could handle and it came with an accessory to push wireless trading (probably since they had ideas for the GBC's IR port that never came back on the GBA), Heart Gold and Soul Silver were able to show how scenic the Johto Region could truly be using their quasi-3D visual style the DS was capable of producing to show the depth of monuments like Goldenrod Radio Tower and autumn tones of Bellchime Trail, regardless of how people feel about Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire's decision with the Battle Frontier or cutscenes, it did show that 3D was capable of showing characters from previous games can be more expressive than originally depicted and how story elements can expand or at least be shown in ways text alone couldn't convey in future remakes.

By no means does it mean that BDSP will be bad games, but I still have my copy of Diamond. Doesn't feel like I'm getting that much of a difference in experience aside the battles being in 3D.

>>46687906
>Inability or lack of know how to get a working emulator

DeSMume worked wonders on my AMD Phenom. If your computer is weaker than that, your computer is old and shit. A modern toaster could run a DS emulator these days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 13:57:49 No.46688834 Report

Quoted By: >>46689355

>>46686515
Not really, when people are just going to bitch about it no matter what. iirc I'd much rather have a 1:1 remake than a bullshit "re-imagining" like what they tried with ORAS. Open-world Gen IV would be horrendous.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 13:59:26 No.46688849 Report

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>>46686515
Yes. What's even the point of a remake if you aren't going to add some additional content or AT LEAST make some QOL changes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 14:20:14 No.46688950 Report

Quoted By: >>46688970

>>46686515
Sinnoh is getting split into both a faithful remake and the experimental Legends Arceus. Because Arceus is so experimental they likely decided to keep BDSP as faithful as possible. I think BPSP looks pretty meh, with Arceus being the title I'm really looking forward to. So the issue with BPSP for many people is "been there, done that" so there's way less excitement than if they would've changed things up more.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 14:26:08 No.46688970 Report

Quoted By: >>46688983

>>46688950
I'm only excited myself because Sinnoh is the one region I've never played in some way, shape or form.

The DS hardware speeds shouldn't be an issue anymore, but I hope they at least fix the Pokemon distribution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 14:27:24 No.46688976 Report

Quoted By: >>46688998

Come on, Dawn looks like a giant head with legs in the remake.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 14:29:02 No.46688983 Report

Quoted By: >>46688996

>>46688970
If they go based on Platinum's than it will be, but based on the trailers the game still have things from the original DP, so there's a chance alot of Platinum's features won't be there.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 14:30:16 No.46688990 Report

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Why would I ever play these remakes when renegade platinum exists?

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 14:31:55 No.46688996 Report

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>>46688983
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm fearing.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 14:32:59 No.46688998 Report

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>>46688976

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 15:27:14 No.46689333 Report

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>>46686515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcW6zQdAmXg&t=22s
0:51
>"We are remaking an old game, but this is quite a challenge."
>"Old fans would not want us to mess with their good memories... but there is no point in just redoing the same thing, right?"
>"We are working toward something that brings back memories, yet is also completely new!"
This is from the most critically acclaimed pokemon remake to this day. Hell, many people would argue that this is the best pokemon game ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 15:30:37 No.46689355 Report

Quoted By: >>46689448

>>46688834
Alright, for people like you, I want to know, considering you’d rather just have a 1:1 remaster, what’s even the point of them then? While you may not like the newer style, at least taking from that could justify the game’s existence. But this being a copy-paste, the hell’s the point?

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 15:31:39 No.46689360 Report

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>>46688726
The original DP were fucking awful, nigga. It only got good in Platinum

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 15:38:52 No.46689406 Report

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>>46686583
>Hey guys! Sinnoh is getting a remake!

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 15:45:50 No.46689448 Report

Quoted By: >>46689897

>>46689355
>what’s even the point of them then
QoL improvements which are already confirmed in the publicity shoot. Also, a battle engine that isn't complete ass. Online underground and union room are also something to look forward to

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 15:58:35 No.46689522 Report

Quoted By: >>46689840 >>46690010

>>46687327
>He expects pokemon from gen 5 and up to be in the game

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 16:07:42 No.46689566 Report

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>>46686515
For a free switch game, no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 16:13:25 No.46689608 Report

Quoted By: >>46689682

>>46686515
It's not inherently bad, but it looks like shit. The art style isn't my favorite, but they could have gotten away with that if the shading and color of most of the models looked good.

A remake is supposed to make the original game look like the intention of the artists and developers of the original game. We deserve to be walking into Jubilife and feel like it's Castelia or Lumiose like in it's scope, but we'll never get a feeling like that from these games.

My only hope for Sinnoh is that Legends Arceus blows me away in a way I'm not expecting. Something else I hope for is that a Platinum remake comes out in 2023 to round out Sinnoh, and be the true 3D remake half of us wanted to begin with.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 16:23:43 No.46689678 Report

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>>46686515
As long as you don't repeat old mistakes

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 16:24:17 No.46689682 Report

Quoted By: >>46689951

>>46689608
I've noticed that ever since the games hit the Switch GF doesn't want do to improved remakes. Every remake since the Switch has looked like a mobile game. And it's likely due to them not wanting to spend the time or resources to make the games look better on a home console. So they instead rely on chibi art to hide how low effort the current remakes are. Legends: Arceus seems more like an experiment to test the waters for future game styles, so that one got to be an exception.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 16:46:53 No.46689840 Report

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>>46689522
If there's a full dex or at least up to gen 7 I would buy it.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 16:52:03 No.46689881 Report

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>>46686515
No matter what is or isn't done Pokémon fans will never be satisfied. The proof being there isn't one generation that's generally considered the best one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 16:54:09 No.46689897 Report

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>>46689448
When you say QoL changes, are you speaking of how some aspects of Platinum are present? Because if so, at that point, why not just play Platinum? Also, online Underground is speculation at best considering, how would they even handle a full on online version of it especially with the number of people especially things like Secret Base features?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 17:00:54 No.46689951 Report

Quoted By: >>46690820

>>46689682
I wouldn’t say that. I mean, Let’s Go certainly improved on the appearance of Kanto from FRLG even managing to remove the prospect of random battles and give some locations like the Viridian Forest, Cinnabar Mansion and Seafoam Islands a pretty crisp feel. Even for the semi-chibi aesthetic, it wasn’t bad looking. BDSP on the other hand just feels lazy by comparison

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 17:07:59 No.46690010 Report

Quoted By: >>46690037 >>46690224

>>46689522
Why wouldn't there be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 17:08:46 No.46690015 Report

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>>46687327
>and newer mons
won't be in the game's data at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 17:11:52 No.46690037 Report

Quoted By: >>46690099

>>46690010
Because they weren't in Let's Go, and they literally confirmed it when talking about Sword and Shield in 2019.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 17:15:26 No.46690062 Report

Quoted By: >>46690094 >>46690135

>>46686966
He's not wrong though. DP were shit and needed Platinum to fix them. A 1:1 remake is the worst thing they could do.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 17:20:41 No.46690094 Report

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>>46690062
Remakes are bad and should never be done. We have all the remakes we need. ORAS was a bad idea too because gen 3 was on the best console ever already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 17:21:04 No.46690099 Report

Quoted By: >>46690121

>>46690037
This isn't called Let's Go Diamond and Peral, retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 17:24:36 No.46690121 Report

Quoted By: >>46690853

>>46690099
Sword and Shield also isn't called Let's Go either. Doesn't change the fact that it doesn't have all the Pokémon or the fact that while advertising that game they confirmed that from that moment on no game was ever going to include all the Pokémon again. And with this remake being "faithful", it's pretty much guaranteed to be another Let's Go situation or including Sylveon at best. This is clearly a TPC policy considering it was also applied to the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon remake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 17:26:27 No.46690135 Report

Quoted By:

>>46690062
>DP were shit
nah

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 17:37:39 No.46690224 Report

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>>46690010
Idk, why did neither LGPE or SWSH not have all the pokemon?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 18:54:45 No.46690807 Report

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>>46686515
Yes, because chibi proportions in 3D look like ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 18:56:12 No.46690820 Report

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>>46689951
100% agree. People can complain about the mechanics of LGPE all they want, but the game looked phenomenal, no area seemed super unpolished. SWSH had so many areas that looked really bad comparatively (wild area, mostly). Only thing I can knock LGPE for is not being more creatively expressive in a 3D environment, everything was still tile based. When I say tile based, I mean houses all facing the camera with no dynamic camera at all.

Problem with BDSP is that everything is still tile based in a 3D environment, AND it looks worse than LGPE. If it was JUST in LGPE tile based style, or JUST in SWSH more open style, I wouldn't even be mad. It's the fact that it's BOTH shitty looking and as unpolished as SWSH, and tile based like LGPE. It's literally the worst of both worlds.

What this remake needs to be good is 1) revamp Sinnoh to work in a fully 3D map, 2) be able to use a 360 rotational camera at all times, and 3) have the level of polish LGPE had in the SWSH art style.

This remake does not have any of those things, barely making it a remake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 18:57:49 No.46690828 Report

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>>46686966
>>46687275
>>46687294
ywnbaw

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 19:00:33 No.46690848 Report

Quoted By:

>>46686583
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 19:01:21 No.46690853 Report

Quoted By: >>46690909

>>46690121
Sword and Shield has 650 Pokemon in it, not just the 100 new ones, nor even a regioanl dex of 150/215 nor even 493.

BDSP is also using the same textures as Pokemon Home so porting more mons would be easier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 19:02:50 No.46690859 Report

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>>46687229
>a movie is the same as a video game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 19:12:22 No.46690909 Report

Quoted By: >>46690989

>>46690853
>Sword and Shield has 650 Pokemon in it
So only a selection of them instead of all of them, proving my point (which is also backed up by an official confirmation)

>porting more mons would be easier
It always was that easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 19:24:45 No.46690989 Report

Quoted By: >>46691062

>>46690909
>So only a selection of them instead of all of them
Yes, the biggest selection of them yet. Thinking BDSP isn't going to be on-par with modern standards of 300/400+ regional dexes and is going to stick to DP's pitiful 150 or Pt's 215 is ridiculous.

>It always was that easy.
Not really. Gen 7 had different textures than LGPE which had different textures than SWSH which added new animations for camping and Dynamax. Since BDSP is already using the same textures as Home and there's presumably no gimmick mechanic unless they're planning on expanding contests, the work is done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 19:25:44 No.46691000 Report

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>>46686515
Yes because I already played the original and want a new game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 19:27:01 No.46691012 Report

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Say you have no interest in the game.

Would you still buy merch of smol Dawn or smol versions of any trainers that appear in the game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 19:32:30 No.46691062 Report

Quoted By: >>46691074

>>46690989
It's not ridiculous. It's realistic. 215 is still more than LGPE which is also a modern game following TPC's current "standards" and policies. And no, Sword and Shield is not justified.

>the biggest selection of them yet
>he thinks 600 is more than 800

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 19:33:23 No.46691068 Report

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Depends

Faithful is different from 1-to-1
Faithful implies we can still get upgrades to the classic style and see more things.
1-to-1 implies it’s the exact shame shit.

It’s fine if it’s the former cause DP by themselves are trash and need improvement which seems to be the case so far

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 19:34:00 No.46691074 Report

Quoted By: >>46691098

>>46691062
Let's Go is a spin-off game meant for Go players. BDSP is targeting the core audience.

The biggest selection of available Pokemon without trading, dipshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 19:38:10 No.46691098 Report

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>>46691074
>Let's Go is a spin-off game
It's as if it was, but it's not according to Game Freak and TPC. And the Sinnoh remake and Legends are no different, they're both spinoff-ish just like LGPE since they abandon what the main series currently looks like.

>without trading
Doesn't matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 19:39:22 No.46691107 Report

Quoted By: >>46695534

let's go is shit
sword and shield is shit
sinnoh remake will be shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 23:58:02 No.46693220 Report

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>>46686515
I wish Paper Mario would be faithful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Mar 2021 02:16:50 No.46694452 Report

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>>46687327
Fairy type ruins the metagame completely, whereas gen 4's meta was not bad
Also there is no Pokémon added after gen 5 that are compelling enough to give a second purchase value

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Mar 2021 05:54:14 No.46695534 Report

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>>46691107
based
don't forget SM and USUM

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Mar 2021 09:04:49 No.46696084 Report

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>>46686515
"Faithful" niggers BTFO by gamefreak
https://youtu.be/rcW6zQdAmXg?t=50

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Mar 2021 13:23:52 No.46696889 Report

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>>46686515

being faithful without upgrading is completely pointless

and not only did they not upgraded, they downgraded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Mar 2021 13:38:07 No.46696939 Report

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>>46687379
Low tier effort insults always incorporate "u bring great upon your family kys"

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Pepsimax Sun 28 Mar 2021 13:39:17 No.46696944 Report

Quoted By: >>46697720 >>46698471

Nobody cares about Pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Mar 2021 13:39:50 No.46696948 Report

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It’s only bad if it means keeping all the stupid shit instead of actually fixing it.
The better games being faithful keep everything else and improve with better options etc.

For example, it would be really fucking stupid if they kept the DP dex instead of platinum/improving the original, but it looks like it won’t be the case which is a good sign.
I’m curious to see what they’ll do with HM’s, best case they’ll do it Let’s Go/Gen 7 style where you get it the same way but can do it automatically instead of forcing a move slot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Mar 2021 14:14:16 No.46697125 Report

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>>46686515
The thing that bothers me the most is the fact that the game actually looks pretty good during the sunset, it's the daytime lighting that looks like fucking shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Mar 2021 14:15:28 No.46697132 Report

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>>46686966
dp aren’t the worst but plat is certainly a lot better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Mar 2021 16:02:27 No.46697720 Report

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>>46696944
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Mar 2021 17:34:00 No.46698471 Report

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>>46696944
I think the people on a pokemon board would

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Mar 2021 18:31:23 No.46699021 Report

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In theory no, it's honestly the kind of remake I hope for after ORAS. It's one thing to remake source material, but it's another to actively ruin it.

It's still to early to tell what the game will contain definitively but hopefully it will build upon the source material like FRLG and HGSS, adding new things to do.
If it was simple 1:1, I can't deny feeling a bit of disappointment, but it would likely still be a good game because DPPt themselves were good. That isn't points to the devs though, and we're that the case, calling it a remake instead of a remaster would be incredibly dishonest.
Speaking only for myself, if it contains all the Platinum content, that will (probably) appease my worries and concerns. There seems to be some light evidence for that, so I look ahead with optimism for now.

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