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Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 21:35:08 No.46726666 View View Reply Original Report

Why does Gen VI randomly switch between 3D and 2D? Caves are 3D, environments are 2D. Battles are 3D except when the camera changes to certain angles.
Is it just shoddy workmanship because sometime along the way they realized nobody cared about 3D?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 21:36:58 No.46726674 Report

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>>46726666
the 3d in gen 6 really is just like whatever
it doesn't get even remotely impressive until swsh and swsh is ... swsh

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 21:43:52 No.46726728 Report

Quoted By: >>46726769 >>46726784 >>46727658

They only put 3D in scenes were the system can handle it, like battles and small, simplistic areas like caves or when eggs hatch. Not the overworld, or when the battle is showing two angles. 3D requires more effort from the hardware, battles notably drop FPS in 3D. Since GameFreak has ALWAYS been famously bad at optimization you get these half assed results.
They are simply bad at coding. Remember how Iwata had to save them to fit the world in gen II, or how they added a Lillies for each island in SM, or how they spent 1 year making grass in SWSH. It's pure mediocrity.

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Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 21:49:06 No.46726769 Report

Quoted By: >>46726829 >>46726919

>>46726728
>Since GameFreak has ALWAYS been famously bad at optimization
? XY is optimized pretty well. Their only badly optimized games they made is anything out of gen 4.

>B-B-BUT THE FRAME DROPS!!!
not GF's fault they wanted good looking pokemon on a shitty handheld. It's a trade off. Which I'd argue was a good one given that it's a turn based game.

>B-BUT THE LILLIE!
this actually improved the efficiency of the game you retard.

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Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 21:51:07 No.46726784 Report

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>>46726728
>they spent 1 year making grass in SWSH
lmao grass is truly the bane of developers. It just ends up making the completely static ground textures more noticeable in SwSh.
And they even figured it out back in Mario Galaxy...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 21:51:36 No.46726790 Report

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The lack of 3D (the feature not perspective) in the overworld is really the biggest testament to GF incompetence, and it still fucking runs like shit even without it.

Many 3DS looked 10x better and still managed 3D at a stable frame rate. GF couldn't even include it at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 21:56:13 No.46726829 Report

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>>46726769
>on a shitty handheld.
The 3DS could do some great stuff.
Having 2 models looking at each other, each with only 2 possible animations, in a basically empty background, could have been achieved without frame drops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:00:13 No.46726852 Report

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>>46726829
>The 3DS could do some great stuff.
name a single 3DS game that has better models than XY and doesn't have frame drops

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Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:01:42 No.46726861 Report

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This game was as linear and empty as ORAS or SM yet it looked much better and had full 3D.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:01:51 No.46726862 Report

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>>46726852
Yo-Kai Watch series.

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Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:07:48 No.46726919 Report

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>>46726769
>not GF's fault they wanted good looking pokemon on a shitty handheld. It's a trade off. Which I'd argue was a good one given that it's a turn based game.
>good looking Pokemon
>3D
>Gamefreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:08:30 No.46726926 Report

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>>46726861
Doesn't that game take place inside a boat with loading screens between rooms?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:08:42 No.46726929 Report

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Mario Kart 7, even with 8 players, in full 3D, could maintain 60 FPS in a game with rapidly changing environments.
There is no way the average Pokémon battle, turn based, and static as it is, with two models and simple backgrounds, should require so much more power that it drops from 30 to 15 FPS in 3D.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:12:44 No.46726957 Report

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>>46726852
kid icarus uprising

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Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:15:50 No.46726979 Report

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>>46726862
worse looking models than XY

>>46726957
worse looking models than XY

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Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:17:00 No.46726990 Report

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>>46726926
Is that an excuse?

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Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:19:36 No.46727019 Report

Quoted By: >>46727037 >>46727042 >>46727074

Behold, the magnificence of... Hoenn in 3D!

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Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:19:56 No.46727021 Report

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>>46726979
Yet XY still managed to look worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:20:21 No.46727025 Report

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>>46727021
>proceeds to post a screenshot that looks worse than XY
uhhhh.....

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:21:25 No.46727037 Report

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>>46727019
at least it looks better than gen 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:22:18 No.46727042 Report

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>>46727019
Weird. I'm OP and literally in this cave right now. Coincidences.

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Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:22:18 No.46727043 Report

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>>46726666
I always thought it was because they wanted to keep the classic top-down perspective, but also give you these snazzy views every once in a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:22:56 No.46727053 Report

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>>46727025
Go check Lumiose.

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Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:24:54 No.46727074 Report

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>>46727019
So this is the power of ORAS...

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Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:27:16 No.46727096 Report

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what the fuck size is this thing supposed to be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:29:24 No.46727116 Report

Quoted By: >>46727141

>>46726990
If one game has loading screens and the others doesn't you can't compare the two.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:31:01 No.46727127 Report

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>>46727025
I'll give you the models, but not this. Fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:32:27 No.46727141 Report

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>>46727116
I posted your pokémon loading screen.

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Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:39:35 No.46727203 Report

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>>46726926
One hallway in that boat was similar to one route in pokémon games. Then, the game had its share of more open areas too.

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Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 22:44:53 No.46727244 Report

Quoted By: >>46727440

MonHun was 45-60 FPS. It improved on the New 3DS models. I'm not sure if Pokémon improved anything on the New.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 23:01:51 No.46727412 Report

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>>46727141
>>46727203
Now show me the 30 second loading elevators in RE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 23:04:38 No.46727440 Report

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>>46727244
I know new 3ds just make frame drops less disgusting. Other than that they're the same

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 23:18:24 No.46727540 Report

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>>46726784
Grass would look like shit with this technique, it only works with fuzzy surfaces

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Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 23:23:12 No.46727576 Report

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>>46727540
I said ground textures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Mar 2021 23:33:44 No.46727658 Report

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>>46726728
it was 6 months btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Apr 2021 01:48:56 No.46728539 Report

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>>46727021
How did pokemon on beat this again?

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