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Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 18:47:48 No.46814809 View View Reply Original Report

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Hi there! I ruined Gen 5's metagame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 18:56:05 No.46814866 Report

Quoted By: >>46814879 >>46814883 >>46815498 >>46815550 >>46819867

>>46814809
Competitive Pokémon is retarded. It's like competitive Mario Kart or Mario Party. Sure you can make it work if you really want, but the influence of luck, and in Pokémon's case simple matchups, is much too great for anyone with half a brain to take seriously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 18:56:48 No.46814874 Report

Quoted By: >>46815488

>>46814809
Pelipper was better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 18:57:16 No.46814878 Report

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>>46814809
Politoed is a great design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 18:57:16 No.46814879 Report

Quoted By: >>46820962

>>46814809
I miss weather wars

>>46814866
Das rite

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 18:57:49 No.46814883 Report

Quoted By: >>46814930 >>46815799

>>46814866
>the matchups are too hard
Total scrub detected

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 18:59:04 No.46814897 Report

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>>46814809
Best part is it got BTFO by based Pelipper 2 gens later and it went back to being the forgotten johturd shitmon it was always destined to be. Even in Gen 5 its usage was met with begrudging and grinding teeth. Hoennchads just keep on winning.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 18:59:19 No.46814898 Report

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>>46814809
Got a number one victory royale
Yeah fortnite we bout to get down (get down)
Ten kills on the board right now
Just wiped out tomato town
My friends just go down
I’ve revived him now we’re heading south bound
Now we’re in the pleasant park streets
Look at the map go to the mark sheets

Take me to your Xbox to play fortnite today
You can take me to moist mire but not loot lake
I would really love to, chug with you
We can be pro fortnite gamers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 19:01:48 No.46814930 Report

Quoted By: >>46815475

>>46814883
>too hard
I didn't mention difficulty at all. You're strawmanning by trying to make it about difficulty or skill when I'm talking about luck and matchups. But this isn't even a Pokémon thing, tons of people who play any multiplayer or competitive game will try to dismiss criticism of that game by resorting to the "mad cuz bad" strawman retort.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 19:57:03 No.46815454 Report

Quoted By: >>46815470 >>46815476 >>46815493 >>46815534 >>46821807

>>46814809
Why is Pelipper considered better than Politoed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 19:58:28 No.46815470 Report

Quoted By: >>46815548

>>46815454
Roost, slow u-turn, stab hurricane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 19:59:24 No.46815475 Report

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>>46814930
Mad cuz bad lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 19:59:27 No.46815476 Report

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>>46815454
Better stats and movepool

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 20:00:44 No.46815488 Report

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>>46814874
pelipper didn't have dirzzle in gen 5 you underage faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 20:01:19 No.46815493 Report

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>>46815454
Birds eat frogs and toads

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 20:01:45 No.46815498 Report

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>>46814866
the fun part of pokemon is prediction of the other guy's prediction

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 20:04:37 No.46815529 Report

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>>46814809
no?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 20:04:54 No.46815534 Report

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>>46815454
Better typing (Flying grants it key resistances and an immunity)
Better stats (Slightly more flexible)
Better movepool (Knows Defog, Tailwind, Roost, U-turn, Hurricane)

By comparison Politoed is a mono Water type with shit messy stats and lackluster moves besides Scald/Hypnosis or whatever. Half the time it was literally just sitting there as a glorified fire sprinkler and no one else besides Kyogre had access to it so it was used everywhere despite the groaning, not like anyone had a choice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 20:06:49 No.46815548 Report

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>>46815470
>>46815476
>>46815493
>>46815534
Thanks for the info

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 20:06:54 No.46815550 Report

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>>46814866
You must be 18 to use this website
Come back when you get bored of story mode

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 20:12:30 No.46815607 Report

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>>46815550
post elo or shut up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 20:14:51 No.46815627 Report

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>>46815550
Only manchildren think Pokaymanz is a serious competitive game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 20:17:02 No.46815645 Report

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>>46815627
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 20:25:15 No.46815718 Report

Quoted By: >>46815743 >>46816007

>>46815627
>Meanwhile GF actively promotes competitive pokemon
But if it makes you sleep at night, go ahead and pretend pokemon is just an A button mashing simulator

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 20:27:34 No.46815743 Report

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>>46815718
>Meanwhile GF actively promotes competitive pokemon
yeah, to manchildren.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 20:30:58 No.46815771 Report

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>>46815743
Sorry they don't give full attention to 10 year olds like you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 20:35:23 No.46815799 Report

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>>46814883
>>SIMPLE matchups

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 20:57:37 No.46816007 Report

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>>46815718
Are you genuinely retarded or is this cope? Of course the developers of their games will want to promote them in competitively gameplay if it has some semblance of looking like it can be. Doesn't change the fact that the game is infested with RNG and VGC has shit cash prizes compared to other games. Play an actual competitive game manchild.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 21:30:51 No.46816354 Report

Quoted By: >>46816540

>>46816007
nta.

Luck is a part of almost every game so idk what you mean. How would you even fix Pokemon? Just make every status proc/every move hit all the time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 21:33:31 No.46816385 Report

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>>46815771
have sex

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 21:35:57 No.46816406 Report

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>>46814809
Waterfags had it too good for too long now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 21:48:03 No.46816540 Report

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>>46816354
>How would you fix it?
Not the same anon but I wouldn't, except reduce some aspects of RNG perhaps. You can appreciate the mechanics for what they are and realize eliminating all aspects of the RNG would just make it a glorified calculator while still knowing the way the game is designed makes it inherently uncompetitive (hence why Smogon exists to minimize the luck factor). I just don't take comp seriously when I play it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 11 Apr 2021 21:51:48 No.46816569 Report

Quoted By: >>46818229

>A fucking frog
Nice try faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Apr 2021 00:00:01 No.46817512 Report

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>>46814809
You mean saved it.
Weather Wars was the most based meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Apr 2021 01:29:54 No.46818229 Report

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>>46816569
>a fucking whale gorilla
LMAO

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Apr 2021 01:33:31 No.46818254 Report

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>>46814809
Hi there! I saved Gen 5's metagame

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Apr 2021 04:09:00 No.46819206 Report

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>>46814809
Isn't rain currently falling off a cliff in Gen 5 OU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Apr 2021 06:45:18 No.46819832 Report

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>>46819206
Swift Swim + Drizzle was banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Apr 2021 06:53:56 No.46819867 Report

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>>46814866
fuck off. Don't lump in Mario Kart with Pokemon or Mario Party.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Apr 2021 12:19:25 No.46820962 Report

Quoted By: >>46821035 >>46821128 >>46821137 >>46821156

>>46814879
It sucks that weather wars had to end. The only part that was broken was speed-boosting abilities, and they could've just tweaked them to only boost speed by 1.5 instead of doubling it.
Plus, imagine how based it would've been if GF introduced a bunch of terrain-abusing abilities to have a terrain wars meta. Which would've made terrains a lot more relevant than they are (other than Rillaboom's Grassy Glide)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Apr 2021 12:19:55 No.46820966 Report

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>>46814809
Weather Wars were extremely based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Apr 2021 12:30:34 No.46821035 Report

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>>46820962
The problem is Lame Freak doesn’t need, it castrates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Apr 2021 12:46:55 No.46821128 Report

Quoted By: >>46821137

>>46820962
The problem is Lame Freak doesn’t nerd, it castrates.
Whether is overpower makes it unusable even though the only broken thing was the speed abilities,
Taurus dominates the meta-make it a shitmon
Talonflame has GalenWings, clip them so that it’s ability is effectively worthless

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Apr 2021 12:49:23 No.46821137 Report

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>>46820962
>>46821128
I guess it makes sense why they'd do that.
GF only releases "balance patches" once every 3 years, so if they don't go far enough in nerfing, the mon could still end up dominating and being OP for another 3 years.
This is easily fixed in the modern era by just releasing updates to the base game, but GF has always been behind the curve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Apr 2021 12:49:58 No.46821142 Report

Quoted By: >>46822608 >>46822875

>i ruined a pokemon meta
im sure the 20 people who play that were very upset

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Apr 2021 12:52:23 No.46821156 Report

Quoted By: >>46824466 >>46825396

>>46820962
The problem is Lame Freak doesn’t nerf, it castrates.
Weather is strong-make it unusable even though the only broken thing was the speed abilities,
Taurus dominates the meta-make it a shitmon
Talonflame has Gale Wings-clip them so that its ability is effectively worthless even though it shit ton of other stuff was already introduced to counter it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Apr 2021 12:53:25 No.46821160 Report

Quoted By: >>46823944

>>46814809
Too many Dragons ruined an already shit meta gen 5 comp

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Apr 2021 15:11:09 No.46821807 Report

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>>46815454
Better design

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Apr 2021 17:07:09 No.46822608 Report

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>>46821142
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Apr 2021 17:39:11 No.46822875 Report

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>>46821142
Yawnfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Apr 2021 19:56:46 No.46823944 Report

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>>46821160
Bite your tongue. Dragmag was based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Apr 2021 21:14:50 No.46824466 Report

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>>46821156
>Weather is strong-make it unusable
Weather is fucking everywhere in VGC and in OU Rain is still plenty viable, as is Sun are Sand but to a lesser extent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Apr 2021 21:27:15 No.46824590 Report

Quoted By: >>46829162

>>46815627
And what say you to the game at chestes? It is truely an honest kynde of enterteynmente and wittie, quoth Syr Friderick. But me think it hath a fault, whiche is, that a man may be to couning at it, for who ever will be excellent in the playe of chestes, I beleave he must beestowe much tyme about it, and applie it with so much study, that a man may assoone learne some noble scyence, or compase any other matter of importaunce, and yet in the ende in beestowing all that laboure, he knoweth no more but a game. Therfore in this I beleave there happeneth a very rare thing, namely, that the meane is more commendable, then the excellency.

Gee

Gee Mon 12 Apr 2021 21:30:30 No.46824616 Report

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>>46814809
competitive is stupid anyway. Polytoad is good boy

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Apr 2021 23:08:47 No.46825396 Report

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>>46821156
Weather is still usable.
Yeah, massively castrated, but still good with the right mons.
VenuKoal is basically easy mode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 01:20:02 No.46826413 Report

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>>46818229
>whale gorilla
? post elo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 05:58:21 No.46827894 Report

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Politoed made gen 5's meta the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 12:37:34 No.46829162 Report

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>>46824590
Am I having a stroke?

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