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Mega Evolution Concepts

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 12:53:08 No.46876325 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>46876428 >>46876489 >>46876498 >>46876607 >>46876632 >>46876689 >>46876827 >>46876852 >>46877176 >>46878817 >>46880351 >>46881341

Serperior: Grass/Flying
Emboar: Fire/Fighting
Samurott: Water/Rock
Is it balanced?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 13:12:03 No.46876428 Report

Quoted By: >>46876484 >>46876727

>>46876325
How does anyone make a design as bad as that Serperior and not immediately delete it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 13:25:12 No.46876484 Report

Quoted By: >>46876498 >>46876502 >>46876876

>>46876428
i smell genwarring
stay on topic
is it fucking balanced or not

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 13:26:34 No.46876489 Report

Quoted By: >>46876491 >>46876647

>>46876325
>Grass/Flying
>Not Grass/Dragon
Disregarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 13:27:33 No.46876491 Report

Quoted By: >>46876495 >>46876571

>>46876489
don't make serperior the next charizard
the alternate typing works i guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 13:28:46 No.46876495 Report

Quoted By: >>46876501

>>46876491
But Charizard has three forms that are Flying and one that is Dragon, so a Flying Serperior is more Charizard-like

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 13:29:16 No.46876498 Report

Quoted By: >>46876508 >>46876526 >>46876544 >>46876666

>>46876325
>>46876484
This look like ass

>Samurott not being water/fighting.
Sorry to hear you're retarded OP get well soon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 13:29:44 No.46876501 Report

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>>46876495
meaning don't start another frenzy on how it should be a dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 13:29:54 No.46876502 Report

Quoted By: >>46876512

>>46876484
Noticing that a fan design is bad isn't a genwar. Serperior's base design is fine, that mega is not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 13:30:46 No.46876508 Report

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>>46876498
fuck design for a second, I'm talking about the type balance question

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 13:31:47 No.46876512 Report

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>>46876502
genwar was brewing, unless that's you

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 13:35:06 No.46876526 Report

Quoted By: >>46876582

>>46876498
If Samurott were to be Fighting Emboar would need to have a new type first. Use your brain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 13:40:06 No.46876544 Report

Quoted By: >>46876613 >>46880311

>>46876498
listen schizo, emboar is a fucking fighting type
>but dude fuck balance it's unova
you negro, didn't even read the fucking question, "IS IT BALANCED"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 13:46:25 No.46876571 Report

Quoted By: >>46876766

>>46876491
flying fighting rock works, but grass and water interfere with rock
they could mitigate with abilities, though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 13:48:24 No.46876582 Report

Quoted By: >>46876591

>>46876526
or all 3 become fighting

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 13:50:36 No.46876591 Report

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>>46876582
venusaur can fly

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 13:53:29 No.46876607 Report

Quoted By: >>46876628

>>46876325
you didn't give them stats or abilities retard so no matter what we don't have enough info to confirm if this is balanced or not....how stupid could you be showing a type and asking if its balanced?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 13:56:18 No.46876613 Report

Quoted By: >>46876628

>>46876544
you literally just gave us types, what about their stats and abilities? do serperior and samurott get new moves to take advantage of their new typing?

right now they look like ass and we do not have enough info to tell if they are balanced or not

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:00:33 No.46876628 Report

Quoted By: >>46876646

>>46876607
>>46876613
he literally repeatedly asked if the types work

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:01:34 No.46876632 Report

Quoted By: >>46876716

>>46876325
Either you or anyone in the thread try making abilities or bst

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:04:36 No.46876646 Report

Quoted By: >>46876735

>>46876628
but what does that even mean?
>balance wise
can't say since the schizo forgot to give us anything meaningful you can put a pokemon type and sometimes be completely wrong about it we need more than nothing
> Design wise
no the designs already suck ass, but don't work for the types aswell what makes the serperior form flying other than the stapled on wings? what makes it NOT a dragon?
Why is Sammurott a rock type? it's such a dumb concept especially since for some reason Sammurott doesn't even mega evolve but just learns to stand

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:04:37 No.46876647 Report

Quoted By: >>46876666

>>46876489
>T. an insufferable charizard fag
Do you not see what he did here?
Grass>Water>Fire>Grass
Flying>Fighting>Rock>??????
Fill in the blank bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:07:33 No.46876661 Report

Quoted By: >>46876674

how the fuck is anyone meant to know anything from type combination and nothing else
this is the dumbest thread in a while

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:08:52 No.46876666 Report

Quoted By: >>46880235

>>46876498
See this >>46876647
If you don't see a rock paper scissors effect going on, you're the only retard here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:10:48 No.46876674 Report

Quoted By: >>46876688 >>46876694

>>46876661
You are meant to see a rock paper scissors effect in both typings, jesus, are you guys THIS retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:12:29 No.46876688 Report

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>>46876674
that says absolutely NOTHING about the balance of the pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:12:31 No.46876689 Report

Quoted By: >>46876728

>>46876325
Who fucking cares about balance?
I just want a cool design

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:12:40 No.46876691 Report

Quoted By:

why does everything have to be dual typed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:13:05 No.46876694 Report

Quoted By: >>46876757 >>46877009

>>46876674
no other starter megas needed to have a rock paper scissors effect and gen 3 had two fightings and a dragon....there is literally no excuse for trying to force it in this one when no other megas attempted to

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:16:36 No.46876707 Report

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Serperior should be Grass/Dragon keep contrary and get Draco Meteor

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:18:08 No.46876716 Report

Quoted By: >>46876751 >>46876824 >>46876935 >>46877201

>>46876632
Mega Serperior:
HP: 75
Attack: 105 (+30)
Defense: 105 (+10)
Special Attack: 105 (+30)
Special Defense: 105 (+10)
Speed: 133 (+20)
Ability: Contrary -> Aerilate
Timid Nature
.
Mega Emboar:
HP: 110
Attack: 163 (+40)
Defense: 83 (+18)
Special Attack: 112 (+12)
Special Defense: 78 (+13)
Speed 82 (+17)
Ability: Reckless -> Simple
Adamant Nature
.
Mega Samurott:
HP: 95
Attack: 131 (+31)
Defense: 111 (+26)
Special Attack: 108
Special Defense: 81 (+11)
Speed: 102 (+32)
Ability: Shell Armor -> Sniper
Jolly Nature

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:20:23 No.46876727 Report

Quoted By: >>46877411 >>46883700

>>46876428
Serperior's new typing is a result of its similarities to Quetzalcoatl and the emerald tree boa of the Amazon Basin that reside within the trees, rarely touching the ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:20:29 No.46876728 Report

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>>46876689
I agree.
Also that serperior looks like shit.

t. Snake enjoyer

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:22:43 No.46876735 Report

Quoted By:

>>46876646
he always stood like a bear

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:26:08 No.46876751 Report

Quoted By:

>>46876716
based, balanced for me
send some medicine to OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:27:05 No.46876757 Report

Quoted By: >>46876766 >>46876787

>>46876694
Yet it would be a cool unique concept, especially since the pokemon's secondary typings are meant to counter the starter that would be super effective against it. Considering secondary typings, serperior would counter emboar, emboar would counter sammerott, and sammerott would counter serperior, while still countering each other with their main typings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:28:57 No.46876766 Report

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>>46876757
its like what the gen 6 starters were attempting, except that was unbalanced because dark completely resists psychic, instead of resisting
flying fighting rock works, refer back to this>>46876571

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:32:07 No.46876787 Report

Quoted By: >>46876819 >>46876824 >>46876876 >>46876994

>>46876757
Except giving Samurott Rock just makes it 4x weak to Grass and Serperior is obviously going to be faster

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:37:02 No.46876819 Report

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>>46876787
Oh wow, I guess OP is a faggot then, have a good day all of you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:37:40 No.46876824 Report

Quoted By: >>46876851 >>46876891

>>46876787
samurott stats fix this
>>46876716

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:37:59 No.46876827 Report

Quoted By: >>46876831 >>46876876

>>46876325
These don't even look like Megas, but (alt.) evolutions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:38:56 No.46876831 Report

Quoted By:

>>46876827
they're stronger though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:42:11 No.46876851 Report

Quoted By: >>46876876 >>46876881 >>46876923

>>46876824
>Samurott's stats fix this
>Speed not higher than serperior's
>SPD 81(+11)
What's it like to have a single digit IQ like faggot OP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:42:18 No.46876852 Report

Quoted By: >>46876876

>>46876325
Unova starters are so bland amd boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:45:45 No.46876876 Report

Quoted By:

>>46876852
haha look>>46876484
.
>>46876787
it's the closest shit to a balanced trio with dual typing, and abilities can fix
>>46876827
so does charizard x
>>46876851
listen miscreant, no one claimed those stats, make your fucking own to cancel the types

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:47:01 No.46876881 Report

Quoted By: >>46876902

>>46876851
serperior has weak attack moves samurott's defense is plenty, and he returns hit stronger

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:48:32 No.46876891 Report

Quoted By: >>46876922

>>46876824
shiggy diggy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:49:59 No.46876902 Report

Quoted By: >>46876923

>>46876881
>He doesn't know serperior is mainly a special attacker
You are a normie charizardfag aren't you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:52:54 No.46876922 Report

Quoted By: >>46876948

>>46876891
>Energy Ball
Am I out of the loop, or do people not just run Contrary Leaf Storm?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:52:57 No.46876923 Report

Quoted By: >>46876948

>>46876851
>>46876902
you niggers argue for the sake of arguing
give samurott high STAB rock it's not a fucking big deal
but no buzzwords are your oxygen

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:55:48 No.46876935 Report

Quoted By: >>46876943 >>46876973

>>46876716
just substitute some of samurott speed with hp

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:56:49 No.46876943 Report

Quoted By:

>>46876935
same for emboar

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:57:10 No.46876948 Report

Quoted By: >>46876956 >>46876994

>>46876922
The post in question gave Serperior Aerilate so I just opted not to put Leaf Storm in, but even so Energy Ball is weaker so running Leaf Storm only makes it more egregious
and I guess there is also the option of using Contrary Leaf Storm before Mega Evolving, but I don't see why when the only Special Normal move Serperior would have to take advantage of is Hidden Power (Normal)
desu this "Mega" is weaker than base Samurott
>>46876923
how does it use the Rock move if it dies in one hit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 14:58:14 No.46876956 Report

Quoted By:

>>46876948
whoops meant base Serperior

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 15:00:31 No.46876973 Report

Quoted By:

>>46876935
no buff his defense a little

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 15:03:18 No.46876994 Report

Quoted By:

>>46876787
>>46876948
kalos starters also had this problem
except they weren't balanced with stab and ability distrinution

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 15:05:54 No.46877009 Report

Quoted By: >>46877232

>>46876694
>there is literally no excuse for trying to force it in this one when no other megas attempted to
what the fuck
that's why megas was done wrong, forget that shit
if this was the original way of balancing typing, it's way better than pandering and giving charizard and sceptile dragon typing
megas should'nt what looks good, it should be what improves the fucking gameplay, something half of /vp/ never bothered to experience

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 15:34:23 No.46877176 Report

Quoted By: >>46877187

>>46876325
Absolutely disgusting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 15:36:00 No.46877187 Report

Quoted By:

>>46877176
wow man
no one considered that
you changed my mind

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 15:38:08 No.46877201 Report

Quoted By:

>>46876716
these are fine
better than any distributions gamefreak ever cranked out for megas

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 15:41:45 No.46877232 Report

Quoted By: >>46877402

>>46877009
Megas were done wrong due to it being a bandaid fix for pokemon that needed stat and ability changes. It survived SOLEY due to fans getting hard ons for the designs. If you think the reason megas failed was cause zard and tile were given a dragon typing then idk what to tell ya but you clearly don't get the actually issues with mega evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 16:02:30 No.46877402 Report

Quoted By:

>>46877232
the actual issue were that they were used to milk the success of mons who didn't need them, instead of buffing mons who did, which was the stated purpose
all he said was that dragon charizard was not a plus given to mega evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 16:04:29 No.46877411 Report

Quoted By: >>46877482

>>46876727
>rarely touching the ground
Then why give it LEGS?
A flying Serperior isn't a bad idea, but that design is terrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 16:06:01 No.46877417 Report

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Mega evolutions are garbage.
G-Max is the future.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 16:13:11 No.46877482 Report

Quoted By:

>>46877411
>people complain serperior lost its legs
>artsit adds legs
sir do you see how its a lose lose, every design wil get fucking hate. It's a mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 19:00:15 No.46878817 Report

Quoted By: >>46880326

>>46876325
Can we please just delete mega evolutions? They're shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 21:39:17 No.46880235 Report

Quoted By: >>46880399 >>46880431

>>46876666
But Pokémon isn’t just a matter of rock/paper/scissors. If Serperior outspeeds Samurott, which it should, it OHKOs before Samurott gets his rock move off.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 21:46:54 No.46880295 Report

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Chikorita was my first pokemon and is also my so I am gonna bring her into this discussion.

When people offer ideas for Mega Meganium they usually give her a fairy typing, making her Grass/Fairy, but wouldn't that weaken her too much? Her bulk is not that good, and her offensive capabilties are lackluster at best. Would Grass/Ground, or even Grass/Rock (since it can get ancient power and the chikorita line are also dinosaurs) work?

And what would her stats and abilities be? I am not very savvy about competitive pokemon, but she has remained my favourites for more than a decade now, so I'd love to hear the opitions of anons smarter than me competitive wise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 21:48:36 No.46880311 Report

Quoted By:

>>46876544
learn to read, psycho

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 21:50:25 No.46880326 Report

Quoted By:

>>46878817
tell about your taste

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 21:53:23 No.46880351 Report

Quoted By:

>>46876325
>Serperior into a dragon with legs
No.
>Emboar into Ganon
Cool but that design is shit and nowhere near as fat as it should be.
>Samurott just stands up
Perfection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 21:58:12 No.46880399 Report

Quoted By:

>>46880235
fuck it, give him sturdy
you idiots complain too much even though this is more normal than actual ingame balance

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 22:01:32 No.46880431 Report

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>>46880235
just like how samurott could in theory OHKO emboar and emboar can in theory OHKO serperior

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Apr 2021 23:47:55 No.46881341 Report

Quoted By: >>46881967

>>46876325
Holy fuck, those are terrible

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Apr 2021 01:28:21 No.46881967 Report

Quoted By: >>46882348 >>46883893

>>46881341
hey schizo, samfagging is extremely obvious

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Apr 2021 02:33:33 No.46882348 Report

Quoted By:

>>46881967
autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Apr 2021 07:21:42 No.46883700 Report

Quoted By:

>>46876727
>quetzacoatl
Literally fucking why?
>snivy design is entirely based on france
>LMAO QUETZACOATL
>the other two keep their original chinese and japanese inspirations
Dumb as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Apr 2021 08:14:42 No.46883893 Report

Quoted By:

>>46881967
hey psycho , newfagging is extremely obvious

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