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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 18:44:11 No.46928019 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>46928047 >>46928181 >>46928537 >>46930167

can anyone explain why pink and green shinies are such common palette swaps?
Also post your favorite shiny of any kind.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 18:47:21 No.46928047 Report

Quoted By: >>46928055 >>46928084 >>46928183 >>46928374 >>46928475 >>46928537 >>46929048 >>46930304

>>46928019
They're automatically generated. Most blues for example would go to purple/pink, hence the abundance of such cases as Vaporeon, Quagsire, Sharpedo, Weavile, etc. Gen 7 was the first gen to have custom Shiny colors picked.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 18:48:37 No.46928055 Report

Quoted By: >>46928071 >>46928232 >>46928266

>>46928047
>leaving important design elements to RNG
holy shit is gamefreak retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 18:50:57 No.46928071 Report

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>>46928055
Please understand

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 18:51:52 No.46928084 Report

Quoted By: >>46928123 >>46928169

>>46928047
Pretty sure it was gen 6 (and partially 5)that they started picking but might be wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 18:55:54 No.46928123 Report

Quoted By: >>46928155

>>46928084
I wouldn't be surprised, since some Gen 6 mons mapped differently to what was expected. I just read in the past it was Gen 7 so I went with that.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 18:58:58 No.46928155 Report

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>>46928123
also Charizard got a custom shiny in gen 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 19:00:02 No.46928169 Report

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>>46928084
IIRC they've been changing some since as early as gen 3 (Zard used to be purple) but 7 was the first time they actually looked at every pokemon and made shinies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 19:01:28 No.46928181 Report

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>>46928019
The VAST majority of early shinies were chosen by simply swapping the Pokemon's palette with whatever palette was stored next to it in the rom. Since most scenery palettes are those green colors, a lot of shinies ended up that color. Only special Pokemon like their precious Charizardaroni got a handpicked shiny.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 19:01:46 No.46928183 Report

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>>46928047
>Gen 7 was the first gen to have custom Shiny colors picked.
No it wasn’t

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 19:04:38 No.46928216 Report

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>>46928155
I think that may have been due to the limitations at the time unless you know that for a fact. For example, Sneasel was brown and turquoise. There's also pic related.

Speaking of Charizard, subtle changes in orange make for an interesting case since some like Charizard and Camerupt got mapped to black meanwhile others like Dragonite, Kingler, and Trapinch got mapped to green.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 19:05:35 No.46928232 Report

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>>46928055
Do you really even need to ask

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 19:07:32 No.46928251 Report

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>>46928216
>Camerupt got mapped to black
Holy fuck I've never seen shiny camerupt before. Absolutely based.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 19:08:58 No.46928266 Report

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>>46928055
>the whole game revolves around rng

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 19:20:26 No.46928374 Report

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>>46928047
I always figured gen 2 shinies were generated this way but some gen 3-6 shinies feel deliberately selected. Is there a source for this? Not that I don't believe it, I just want to read more about it, it's super neat.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 19:27:08 No.46928427 Report

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>>46928266
yes, but letting a computer algorithm spit out alternate colorways for your very marketable creatures is flat out brain dead.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 19:29:31 No.46928450 Report

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>>46928374
https://pokemongohub.net/post/guide/the-secret-reason-why-some-shiny-pokemon-look-bad/

This also actually confirms what I was saying that it was Gen 7, since the article says

>When the games entered the 3D era, Gamefreak had complete freedom to create shiny Pokémon, but they decided to stick to the same principle as before: shiny forms change all of the colors of a Pokémon, rather than just distinct featured colors.
>In Sun and Moon, this changed and Gamefreak started deliberately designing shiny Pokémon, which resulted in shiny Pokémon that look and feel completely different than shinies in earlier games.

If there were individualized cases beforehand, that's different than what I intended to say in my original post btw.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 19:32:48 No.46928475 Report

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>>46928047
>Gen 7 was the first gen to have custom Shiny colors picked.
I'm pretty sure it was Gen 6 when they started doing that. Also, they sometimes intentionally picked the shinies before 3D but this is done very rarely and usually to the shiny's detriment (Shiny Arbok losing its blue mouth in B2W2, for example)

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 19:36:48 No.46928510 Report

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>>46928475
See the post just above yours.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 19:40:35 No.46928537 Report

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>>46928019
A lot of shinies are auto generated like
>>46928047
said but a few were picked and modified over time, thats why charizard went from purple to black

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 19:42:01 No.46928545 Report

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>>46928510
Whoops, didn't see that.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 19:43:12 No.46928551 Report

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>>46928537
red gary is cool despite being a mandatory encounter

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 19:54:06 No.46928626 Report

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>>46928450
This merely implies they started doing things that were not a direct pallet swap. Not that it was autogenerated before

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 19:54:18 No.46928629 Report

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>>46928551
Right? Its red for a reason and I think that's just neat

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 19:59:20 No.46928662 Report

Quoted By: >>46929609

I remember someone on youtube once made a video about the math of the mapping,with some good proof of it, but I don't remember who.
It might have been lockstin but I am not sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 20:05:54 No.46928704 Report

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>>46928626
I'm not sure what you're pointing out. The palette mapping was what occurred with their process.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 20:36:04 No.46928910 Report

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ya know whats a good shiny, gengar

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 20:52:17 No.46929048 Report

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>>46928047
This, I'm assuming a lot of it had to do with palette limitations. Like how a lot of people think Nidoqueen's shiny should've matched NidoranF and Nidorina, but it actually does. Look at their shiny palettes in pic related and you'll see they're all a near identical set of white - pink - green - black, it just turned out the way it did as a result of how Nidoqueen's original sprite was made.
You can see a lot of this blue/purple -> green shiny transition in tons of Gen I and II shinies:
>Rattata
>Ekans line
>NidoranF line
>Jigglypuff and Clefairy lines
>Zubat line
>Tentacool line
>Grimer line
>Mewtwo
>Totodile
>Chinchou line
>Marill
>Espeon
>Skarmory

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 22:18:18 No.46929609 Report

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>>46928662
He made a video about potential logic behind Shinies, including how an algorithm could reach them.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Apr 2021 23:47:59 No.46930167 Report

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>>46928019
I'm a big fan of light blue/cyan shinies, especially ones with pink/purple accents. There's not that many, but the ones that do exist are godly. Shiny Weezing is probably the perfect blue-green colour, and Porygon was another good one before they fucked with the color pallete in gen 6 and somehow made him darker, despite every other pokemon in existance becoming lighter and desaturated. Shiny Gastly is also great but it just makes Shiny Gengar even more disappointing.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Apr 2021 00:04:19 No.46930304 Report

Quoted By: >>46930506

>>46928047
>They're automatically generated.
I hate this shitty meme people keep parroting

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Anonymous Mon 26 Apr 2021 00:08:17 No.46930328 Report

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>>46928181
This is complete bullshit. The next palette after Espeon is Umbreon. Look at the disassembly yourself.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Apr 2021 00:35:59 No.46930506 Report

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>>46930304
It's not a meme, if the Shiny colors are decided based on the base form colors then they're automatically generated in response to those colors.

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