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Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:24:58 No.46982225 View View Reply Original Report

Champion Iris edition

>Livestream link (Fridays @ 9:55 AM UTC):
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>Latest episode
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Next episode:
>PM2019 065 - Dragon Battle! Satoshi VS Iris (May 7th)
https://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pocketmonster/episodes/

Future episodes:
>PM2019 066 - The White Flower Flabebe (May 14th)
>PM2019 067 - Pikachu the Suspect (May 21st)
>PM2019 068 - Goh’s Rival?? The Road to Mew!! (May 28th)
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Old Thread: >>46978029

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Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:26:17 No.46982241 Report

Quoted By: >>46982379

Iris is cute

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:27:17 No.46982251 Report

Quoted By: >>46982379

Iris a Mary sue

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Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:27:32 No.46982253 Report

Quoted By: >>46985816

PaulChads...Stand by for battle!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:31:16 No.46982279 Report

Quoted By: >>46982320 >>46982368

Goh a shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:32:28 No.46982292 Report

Quoted By: >>46982334 >>46982345 >>46982368

Ash a shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:33:25 No.46982298 Report

Quoted By: >>46982355

>there are people that think this Iris development is sensible

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:35:27 No.46982320 Report

Quoted By:

>>46982279
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:36:57 No.46982334 Report

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>>46982292
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:37:27 No.46982340 Report

Quoted By: >>46982743

they will turn the next episode into a Goh episode somehow

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:37:43 No.46982345 Report

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>>46982292
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:38:14 No.46982351 Report

Quoted By: >>46985827

So certainly Ash is Champion tier right

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Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:38:50 No.46982355 Report

Quoted By: >>46989444

>>46982298
She looks well developed if you get my drift

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:40:42 No.46982368 Report

Quoted By:

>>46982279
>>46982292
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:42:04 No.46982379 Report

Quoted By: >>46987494

>>46982241
>>46982251
Shes the Queen she carry the whole show

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Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:42:57 No.46982390 Report

Quoted By: >>46982459 >>46988765

So uh...why is the new series so fucking gay? Is it really a good idea for Japan's declining birth rates to go and make the pokemon anime about a shota being gay for another shota?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:43:03 No.46982391 Report

Quoted By: >>46982419 >>46982422

>>46982265
>What, you want to see just a pure episode full of nothing but him going around the park and interacting with each and ever single one so it can sate your autism on something they've made clear (to anyone with a brain) that he does anyways? You want more wasted time Fuck off.

How is wanting this a bad thing exactly? We used to get this all the time in XY, DP, SM, OS, AG, you name it. Ash’s interactions with his Pokémon in Alola was probably one positive thing I can say about Sun and Moon. All his Pokémon had distinct personalities, traits, etc. and Ash genuinely spent time with them aside from training or battling. Why can’t we get small moments with Ash and Goh watching tv with their Pokémon in the lab? Take them out for picnics? Dancing? Just sitting out and taking in the sun? Like this used to be such a common thing in any other season, but somehow you are making it out to be a waste of time? You’re delusional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:46:16 No.46982419 Report

Quoted By: >>46982439 >>46982520

>>46982337
>Interacting how? What did he do? Stop them from fighting? The episode’s premise was just him waiting on his Cascoon to evolve
How about you go back and watch the episode again to see that that the Cascoon evolving outright became secondary to Goh and Ash solving the food crisis and wondering where it was all going, only to be reintroduced at the very end when they were in danger
>Did you just jump into the thread and reply without reading anything prior?
That IS interacting with the you fucking retard. Using them outside of the park, and spending time with them IN the park, and telling us he's spent time with theme in park, are all things that have been done to paint a clear picture
>You mean episodes that we’ve gotten in previous series which were just fine because people like seeing the Pokémon do more with their trainers than just whatever helps them with their goal?
These Pokemon aren't actively on any team, we barely see them, and they've been personified just fine for the most part. We don't need more useless shit because autists like you want to see more nothignburgers with his Pokemon when the plot hasn't even gone anywhere yet.
>Fuck off you dumb piece of shit, I’m glad you aren’t on any sort of writing staff.
I just want you to know that people who think like me ARE on the staff, which is why the show's gone down this direction, and people who think like me are also watching, given the show's success in Japan contrary to what manbabbies here will say. If it were up to me, Go would get catching episodes, and ASH would spend more time with his Pokemon, because those are what's relevant to both of their goals.
Keep seething.
>>46982391
It was common in the other seasons because those Pokemon did more than sit around in a park. I want to see Ash doing this, not Goh, because its a waste of time with him, especially now that the plot's going to be doing something and Ash's team will be more important than ever.

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Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:46:30 No.46982422 Report

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>>46982391
This. What happened are we finally gonna get shit like pic related again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:47:52 No.46982431 Report

Quoted By: >>46982466

>still watching the ashnime in 2021

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:49:15 No.46982439 Report

Quoted By: >>46982465

>>46982419
How is it a waste of time for Goh exactly? That’s his entire goal, to catch and understand his Pokémon. If he’s not going to do that, then why not just release the Pokémon after catching them, and just keep a team of 6 like anyone else?

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Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:52:23 No.46982459 Report

Quoted By:

>>46982390
Fujo bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:53:15 No.46982465 Report

Quoted By: >>46982616 >>46982630

>>46982439
>How is it a waste of time for Goh exactly?
Because, like I've outline, I feel like they've done a satisfactory job of making it clear that this happens off-screen so that we don't have to waste any more time with it. I want to see Goh CATCHING, and I want to see Ash INTERACTING and BATTLING form this point on, because the show's meandered enough. Ash has a smaller team and yet they've barely gotten any focus, and that needs to be fixed, which I hope they do before going full plot throttle like it seems they're doing now.
I'm not saying the episode shouldn't exist from this point on, be we don't need to waste more time on it in the near future. Ash should be doing the picnics and interacting, not Go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:53:43 No.46982466 Report

Quoted By: >>46982485 >>46982512 >>46992267

>>46982431
It's more of a Oprah Winfrey talk show at this point. The last semblance of actual plot progression was removed after XYZ, now it's all more of a guilty pleasure that you just watch for fun. We don't take it too seriously and we can enjoy it for what it is.
The feeling of an "otherworldly adventure" is one of the Ashnime's strongest selling points, and we all need to get that dose of escapism every now and then

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:56:15 No.46982485 Report

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>>46982466
>The feeling of an "otherworldly adventure" is one of the Ashnime's strongest selling points, and we all need to get that dose of escapism every now and then.
which would obviously be before the sun & moon saga, also including the movies 1 to 19

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 17:59:34 No.46982512 Report

Quoted By: >>46992267

>>46982466
>The last semblance of actual plot progression was removed after XYZ,

Pokemon stopped having "plot progression" back in the OS. No DP wasn't some build up from the OS and neither was XY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 18:01:12 No.46982520 Report

Quoted By: >>46985913

>>46982419
>These Pokemon aren't actively on any team, we barely see them, and they've been personified just fine for the most part.
Personified just fine? What are the personalities of Goh’s Beedrill, Farfetch’d, Magikarp, Caterpie, Metapod, Venonat, Venomoth, Butterfree, Paras, Parasect, Kakuna, Weedle, Cubone, Tentacool, Spearow, Rattata, Pidgey, Nidoran, Oddish, Ekans, Poliwag, Exeggutor, Heracross, Hitmonchan, Aerodactyl, Geodude, Bellsprout, Tailow, Stantler, Sentret, Ariados, Pineco, Chinchou, Suicune, Drowzee, Dustox, Wingull, Trapinch, Vibrava, Flygon, Mantyke, Golden, Absol, Binacle, Flabebe, Scatterburf, Phantump, Fletchling, Pyukumuku, Alolan Exeggutor, Bunnelby, Boldore, Mankey, Morelull, Arctozolt, Keanu, and Diglett?

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Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 18:07:26 No.46982565 Report

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I missed this little guy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 18:15:32 No.46982616 Report

Quoted By:

>>46982465
Delusional

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 18:17:33 No.46982630 Report

Quoted By: >>46983498

>>46982465
No one likes it when shit happens off screen. If they could do it in other seasons they can do it here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 18:31:56 No.46982743 Report

Quoted By: >>46982824

>>46982340
If Ash defeats Dragonite (which seems to be the case) then this would be the first time Ash has defeated a champion's pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 18:40:33 No.46982824 Report

Quoted By: >>46983279

>>46982743
Do you really think Iris deserves to be put on a pedestal like that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 19:15:26 No.46983084 Report

Quoted By: >>46983137 >>46984567

Even though this is probably the worst /padt/ has been in years, at least its more active nowadays

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 19:21:47 No.46983137 Report

Quoted By:

>>46983084
We're never going to get back to an XY era padt anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 19:27:39 No.46983190 Report

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Will there be a new movie this year?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 19:36:57 No.46983279 Report

Quoted By: >>46983337 >>46983786 >>46989959

>>46982824
Considering she's Cynthia-tier, yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 19:38:48 No.46983302 Report

Quoted By:

i want to smell koharus feet

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 19:41:27 No.46983330 Report

Quoted By: >>46983332

How do you expect them to try and explain Iris becoming Champion/vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 19:41:53 No.46983332 Report

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>>46983330
They won't. All I want is a flashback to how Axew evolves if it is a Haxorus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 19:42:12 No.46983337 Report

Quoted By: >>46983608

>>46983279
...is this bait?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 19:43:12 No.46983351 Report

Quoted By: >>46983428 >>46983717

When was the last time we saw Lucario

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 19:52:22 No.46983424 Report

Quoted By:

I kinda wonder if the handling of Ash this saga is a response to him and his pokemon being too lazy in early/mid SM? Between Rowlett constantly sleeping, and Litten/Torracat and Lyranroc just acting like a pet cat and dog in a lot of eps...it did seem they were kinda lazy. Obviously Poipole and Meltan weren't even around long

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 19:52:56 No.46983428 Report

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>>46983351
last episode, in the opening

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Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 20:02:02 No.46983498 Report

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>>46982630
Been watching the anime whenever I catch it on tv, not really digging Journeys but Diamond/Pearl has been alright so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 20:15:37 No.46983608 Report

Quoted By: >>46983626

>>46983337
Iris surpassed Alder, who's Cynthia-tier so yes, she's as strong or maybe even stronger than Cynthia

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 20:17:36 No.46983626 Report

Quoted By: >>46983752 >>46986375 >>46986397

>>46983608
It's obvious the champions aren't all as strong as each older. Alder and Diantha for example come across as much weaker than Cynthia, Leon, or Steven. Lance is also probably mid-tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 20:28:59 No.46983717 Report

Quoted By:

>>46983351
The suicune episode

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 20:29:35 No.46983719 Report

Quoted By:

They are celebrating May 1st on twitter:

https://twitter.com/Harukaganda/status/1388345753412804609

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 20:33:58 No.46983752 Report

Quoted By:

>>46983626
Lance finished runner up to Leon. So I would think they would place in the same tier as Leon and Cynthia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 20:38:30 No.46983786 Report

Quoted By: >>46983891

>>46983279
Cynthia-tier? Fuck no.

Kukui/Alder/Diantha-tier? Yeah, sounds about right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 20:53:20 No.46983891 Report

Quoted By: >>46985542

>>46983786
But the tiers are Leon > the rest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 21:42:30 No.46984282 Report

Quoted By: >>46985135

How do we know Iris isn't just the Unova League Champion? They wouldn't just let a MC beat the E4 and Champion and hand wave it right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 22:13:23 No.46984567 Report

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>>46983084
>the worst /padt/ has been in years
The worst /padt/ era was when this thread did nothing but talk about loli underwear and off-topic shit.

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Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 22:18:55 No.46984614 Report

Quoted By: >>46984779

I'd pay through my nose for May. How much money is May worth to you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 22:25:48 No.46984672 Report

Quoted By:

So Ash will be the second strongest trainer in the world after this series is over right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 22:38:14 No.46984779 Report

Quoted By:

>>46984614
Is that you S***t?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 22:42:24 No.46984822 Report

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Don't Champions usually get challenged by people, this is the first time a "Champion" has directly reached out to Ash to challenge him.

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Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 22:59:00 No.46984978 Report

Quoted By: >>46985600 >>46985727

Why are you people pretending that Iris wasn't the far better trainer in Best Wishes? Satoshi was a non-trainer when compared to Iris through out the whole series

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 23:11:02 No.46985135 Report

Quoted By: >>46985435

>>46984282
League winners and regional champs are called differently in the anime.

"Champion of the Unova League" is someone who won the Unova Pokémon League

"Champion of the Unova Region" is the region's strongest trainer, winner of the regional Champion League (they used to be called Champion Masters in DP-BW but XY dropped that title)

Iris is called "champion of the unova region", which means she replaced Alder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 23:39:13 No.46985435 Report

Quoted By: >>46985685 >>46985752

>>46985135
Can't wait to see what kind of half assed explanation they give to try and justify this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 23:51:14 No.46985542 Report

Quoted By:

>>46983891
No, it's Leon > Lance > Cynthia/Steven > the rest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 May 2021 23:56:28 No.46985600 Report

Quoted By: >>46985681

>>46984978
Iris was shit in Best Wishes. If they actually wanted to show some semblance of growth she wouldn't have gotten destroyed by a Gym Leader as beat 20 years ago in her last special. The writers realized how much they fucked up with her so that's why we've got what we have now. A nonsensical and extremely under developed power boost.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:02:46 No.46985681 Report

Quoted By: >>46985739 >>46985746 >>46991180

>>46985600
cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:03:02 No.46985685 Report

Quoted By: >>46985797 >>46989969

>>46985435
I think it's possible. During the time period from XY to SM, Iris could have been focusing on becoming the Unova champion. She trained with Clair and possibly Lance, who is the second best trainer in the anime, as Clair is close to him. If Ash can become a top tier trainer in Kalos within a season, then Iris could become a champion within two seasons. Hell, Ash could become a champion in any region if he spent double the amount of time in there like Iris did in Unova.
It wouldn't be surprising if Iris' role is to hype up Lance (and Leon by proxy) since he's seemingly the penultimate boss of the season.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:07:18 No.46985727 Report

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>>46984978
Most people remember the Charizard vs Dragonite battle. Granted BW Ash got his brain back after the league, but the last time she battled Ash it was one sided.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:08:38 No.46985739 Report

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>>46985681
>can only win when you're written to have a massive advantage over a character when they only have access to half their moveset
>get btfo the next two tournaments when the odds aren't stacked in your favor
>get btfo by a Gym Leader Ash beat 20 years ago

Pathetic Irisfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:09:10 No.46985746 Report

Quoted By:

>>46985681
BASED

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:09:54 No.46985752 Report

Quoted By:

>>46985435
Iris is a champion in the games, so the company needs the media to reflect that fact to get her image and Champion status across to the fanbase, inculding the children audience. If anything, it's the BW writers' fault for not developing her battle prestige earlier, surely they had some insider info on how to develop Iris.
That's probably the best explanation you'll ever get.
As I said before, this is way better than having her be a nobody person like Tracey for 10 years. This is really interesting

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:10:57 No.46985763 Report

Quoted By: >>46987859 >>46988000

Since Koharu sees Ash as an idiot, will her opinion on him change if she sees him battle? And I mean a high IQ battle against Gary or Paul because they always force Ash into a chess match.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:14:17 No.46985797 Report

Quoted By:

>>46985685
nice headcanon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:16:33 No.46985816 Report

Quoted By: >>46985833

>>46982253
more like PaulChuds. Imagine throwing away a super-Infernape, all because you're a literal dogshit trainer.
>oh wow, I attacked this Chimchar with 5 pokemon at once and it fainted??? Worthless. Better throw it away
Literal brainlet tier, can't fathom the idea of patience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:16:39 No.46985818 Report

Quoted By: >>46985901

Ash is going to beat Iris because of plot. He has to beat her to advance to the next rank and have another shot at Bea. It makes you wonder if the upper ranks might have E4 members or other champions as well. I guess the Galar gym leaders are E4 tier on average as the best of them (like Piers) should be comparable to Raihan, and because Leon himself doesn't have a proper E4.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:17:36 No.46985827 Report

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>>46982351
considering he's a champion, yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:18:14 No.46985833 Report

Quoted By: >>46985860

>>46985816
Meanwhile, GaryCHADS know that Gary has potential since he keeps his pokemon and trains them to the point where he can still compete with his eternal rival, Ash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:21:35 No.46985860 Report

Quoted By: >>46985904

>>46985833
>stops being a trainer all together to pursue real career of Pokemon research
>still strong enough to rival your champion-rival
Do GaryCHADs EVER stop winning???

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:25:48 No.46985901 Report

Quoted By: >>46986037 >>46986038

>>46985818
Actually, I think Iris will win because of the same reason: plot. Unless they want to completely fuck over the pacing, Ash reaching top 100 in 65 episodes is a bit too fast don't you think? Especially if it's a four year series like some people are speculating it to be. Even if it isn't, since Ash climbing through the hyper class might take ten wins(of course he might get "hardstuck" and lose a lot too, that's a possibility), they would have to space the already sparse pwc episodes to a nearly unreasonable amount and I don't really see them doing that; mainly because it seems based on the project mew arc that the writers don't really want to take the foot off the gas anymore...hopefully(inb4 20 filler episodes after this).

And so, Iris will win and advance to the Hyper Class, and probably won't have any issue reaching top 20 at least if she actually is champion. Ash will have a rematch with her, and maybe that'll conclude her "arc" in PM: I think that every returning/important character (Korrina, Sonia, Bea, etc.) will have an arc spanning several isolated episodes.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:26:18 No.46985903 Report

Quoted By: >>46986041

Remember when Iris was iliterate and failed elementary school?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:26:25 No.46985904 Report

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>>46985860
>stops being a trainer all together to pursue real career of Pokemon research
He stopped competing in regional leagues, but he's still a trainer. He still has a team, and he trains between seasons as seen when he beat Ash right after the Battle Frontier. Gary probably realized that regional leagues are a scam since you'd still be below the E4 and the champion. How many league winners go on to beat the E4 and become a champion? Zero.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:27:22 No.46985913 Report

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>>46982520

Crickets

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:33:25 No.46985968 Report

Quoted By: >>46985994

I want to protect his smile

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:35:43 No.46985994 Report

Quoted By: >>46986098

>>46985968
you know he fucks that rabbit, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:41:00 No.46986037 Report

Quoted By: >>46986087

>>46985901
>Unless they want to completely fuck over the pacing, Ash reaching top 100 in 65 episodes is a bit too fast don't you think?
I don't think so. The last time we saw Bea she was rank 193 whereas Ash was still in the 1000s. Now, Ash is 184 which means that Bea and possibly the rest of Galar's gym leaders are in the hyper class. The last time Ash ranked up he beat a character from a past series (Korrina,) and Iris currently plays a similar row to Korrina. For the sake of the plot, Ash has to rank up and battle these people, and they can easily stretch out the hyper class arc by simply not skipping the battles. Also, I doubt Iris is going to be the focus of another episode because her voice actress probably isn't cheap anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:41:11 No.46986038 Report

Quoted By: >>46986087

>>46985901
>Let's make Ash lose to anyone with a name so he can have a grudge match later on at a higher stage
That'd be super gay since it would just be a rere-re-re-re-re-thread of Bea.
>Muh pacing
Just add 30 Go filler capture episodes and call it a day. You say it like if Ash is getting much focus anyway nowadays even outside the important matches episodes.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:41:32 No.46986041 Report

Quoted By: >>46989005 >>46989248

>>46985903
Now that Iris is a Champion, I wonder if she has a girlfriend...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:47:55 No.46986087 Report

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>>46986037
That's a good point about not skipping them, I forgot that they offscreened so many of them

>>46986038
Fair enough about the Bea thing, but my point about the pacing is that the important pwc episodes are already like once a month or even more sparse, and adding a shitton of goh episodes would make it worse; however you and the other anon effectively addressed my points already, so yeah

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:49:04 No.46986098 Report

Quoted By: >>46986117

>>46985994
Based twink rabbit bf

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:52:21 No.46986117 Report

Quoted By: >>46986140

>>46986098
>fucking a pokemon
>and it's the gay English Soccer Player
at least if you're gonna be a degenerate, be a good one

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 00:55:22 No.46986140 Report

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>>46986117
Your right the twink rabbit is built for fucking Japanese women

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:02:00 No.46986179 Report

Quoted By: >>46986216 >>46986218 >>46986264

I love Greninja but hate Ash-Greninja. I think XY would have been much better if they emphasized Ash's growth as an ace trainer and have him beat Shota and Alain without any gimmicks just the good high IQ plays like when he battled Paul in Sinnoh. Protean Greninja really does suit Ash's "fuck typings" style when you think about it. Plus, it'll make the segue into future season so much easier since most trainers in SM and PM2019 don't use megas.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:03:23 No.46986195 Report

Quoted By:

>>46981601
Based sighfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:05:18 No.46986216 Report

Quoted By:

>>46986179
>Ash's "fuck typings" style
especially when his team had 4 Fairy Weaknesses

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:05:23 No.46986218 Report

Quoted By: >>46986267

>>46986179
>pretending that Ash didn't make high IQ plays in XY.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:10:37 No.46986264 Report

Quoted By:

>>46986179
Ok, this would have been Based as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:11:16 No.46986267 Report

Quoted By: >>46986294 >>46986297 >>46986325 >>46990043

>>46986218
He did do cool things in XY don't get me wrong, but they should have gone further and have Ash win the Kalos league without any gimmicks not even a mega. It would have been a great way to show how Ash has grown as a trainer, and the intensifty of the Kalos league would cause Ash to go to vacation in Alola.
Hopefully Ash-Greninja will bring some sakuga when he appears in SM. PM2019 is lacking Sakuga, and the posters do seem to pair Greninja with Zeraora so that'll probably be his first win against a mythical/legendary since the rest of Ash's aces have battled legendaries or mythicals.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:14:09 No.46986294 Report

Quoted By:

>>46986267
>and the intensifty of the Kalos league would cause Ash to go to vacation in Alola.
I remember when we all thought that was was gonna happen... Haha...

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:14:32 No.46986297 Report

Quoted By: >>46986348

>>46986267
I just disagree, you can show improvements in growth as a trainer while also using " gimmicks. "

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:17:13 No.46986325 Report

Quoted By: >>46986370

>>46986267
>they should have gone further and have Ash win the Kalos league without any gimmicks not even a mega
well he's currently fucking people up with no gimmicks in the World Coronation Series. He 1v2'd Korrina and her Mega Lucario with only his Dragonite. I guess he technically had Gengar too, but Gengar fainted before landing a single blow

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:19:45 No.46986348 Report

Quoted By: >>46986389

>>46986297
True, but then you see characters like Lance and Cynthia become top tier trainers without Z-Moves and Megas. Lance can use Dynamax, but that only works in Galar and we know that he's dominated Kanto and Johto, and he won the PWT in Unova. Being reliant on gimmicks seems kinda cheap when other trainers are able to go the distance with pure skill.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:21:39 No.46986370 Report

Quoted By: >>46986385

>>46986325
That battle against Korrina was massive plot armor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:22:19 No.46986375 Report

Quoted By:

>>46983626
>come across
You're coping. Caitlan was able to stalemate Cynthia's Garchomp in one-on-one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:22:55 No.46986385 Report

Quoted By: >>46986420

>>46986370
nah, Ash is a champion, it'd be weird if a powerhouse like Dragonite would lose to a rando gym leader. Especially sine he's already beaten her before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:23:23 No.46986389 Report

Quoted By: >>46986485

>>46986348
Then go back and in time and prevent Megas and Z-Moves and Dynamaxing from ever being created then. Did you forget the anime is but a glorified ad machine or something?
>True, but then you see characters like Lance and Cynthia become top tier trainers without Z-Moves and Megas
Yes, because those gimmicks didn't exist back then. Don't be dense, faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:23:57 No.46986397 Report

Quoted By:

>>46983626
>Lance is also probably mid-tier.
based retarded, Lance is the second strongest champion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:26:05 No.46986420 Report

Quoted By: >>46986430

>>46986385
Dragonite wasn't really shown to be a powerhouse beforehand, that's why I felt that it was plot armor and a weak battle narrative wise imo.
The PWC just in general has been really boring to watch with fucked up powerscaling, off-screen bullshit, and just generally bad battles. Sad to see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:26:52 No.46986430 Report

Quoted By: >>46986452 >>46986511 >>46986771

>>46986420
>Dragonite wasn't really shown to be a powerhouse beforehand
dude, it's a fucking Dragonite, come on now. Besides, before this has it ever lost? Ash helped it evolved and it's just been cleaning up ever since.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:28:19 No.46986452 Report

Quoted By: >>46986469

>>46986430
And Gengar is a fucking Gengar and it's a supreme jobber.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:30:16 No.46986469 Report

Quoted By: >>46986481

>>46986452
yeah, when you pick up a random ghost trained by a literal who and never train with it, it's not gonna preform well. Sad to see too, I love Gengar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:31:34 No.46986481 Report

Quoted By: >>46986534

>>46986469
Reminder Gengar's original trainer was factually and objectively right about Gengar being the reason his life was going to shit since the second he dropped Gengar his life did a complete and total turnaround towards good fortune.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:31:40 No.46986485 Report

Quoted By: >>46986491

>>46986389
>Yes, because those gimmicks didn't exist back then. Don't be dense, faggot.
Stupid faggot, they're not going to give old characters megas or Z-Moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:32:08 No.46986491 Report

Quoted By:

>>46986485
Misty and Brock already Mega'd, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:36:18 No.46986511 Report

Quoted By: >>46987934

>>46986430
There's merit to the whole Dragonites are inherently powerful thing, but Ash's Dragonite basically had no feats before that battle. I guess you might be able to sort of count the Golurk raid as a feat? What other battles did Dragonite clean up in before the Korrina battle that I'm misremembering?
Regardless, I'm not a fan of relying on that plot point

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:39:17 No.46986534 Report

Quoted By:

>>46986481
100% agree
also remember when he sees Gengar again, he damn near shits his pants in fear. And considering how much he jobs, we see first hand that the trainer was correct, Gengar was costing him battles. I still think he's a piece of shit for abandoning his Gengar, he should of released it normally, but still, I completely understand his reasoning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:40:01 No.46986542 Report

Quoted By: >>46986576

I think Iris will beat Ash especially if Haxorus is there. But that just means they'll be a return arc. Given we know the upcoming eps are about project Mew, anyone surprised an "Iris rematch" ep isn't coming up? Unless they purposely didn't advertise it to avoid spoilers.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 01:44:51 No.46986576 Report

Quoted By:

>>46986542
>they purposely didn't advertise it to avoid spoilers
This is the same series that spoiled Ash was getting a Lucario before it even hatched as a Riolu, and the series that spoiled Cinderace and Drizzile, plus posters spoiling Chloe getting Eevee. Also the same series where toys tend to spoil new Pokemon in advance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 02:07:36 No.46986771 Report

Quoted By:

>>46986430
Dude, it's a fucking Goodra, a pseudo-legendary, of course it's stro...

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 02:33:30 No.46986994 Report

Quoted By: >>46987019 >>46987061 >>46987102 >>46987110 >>46987165 >>46987179 >>46987212 >>46988191 >>46988761 >>46989311

Does /vp/ agree?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 02:36:04 No.46987019 Report

Quoted By:

>>46986994
>Agreed
>Agreed
>What development lmao
>Agreed
>Agreed
>Who cares
>Who cares

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 02:42:03 No.46987061 Report

Quoted By:

>>46986994
>36 seconds
Are you posting your own tweet here?

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 02:47:28 No.46987102 Report

Quoted By: >>46987144

>>46986994
Is Go's favoritism from the writers compared to Ash worse than Iris' though? She looks like she's going to win next episode too. Between the two of them the case could be made.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 02:48:15 No.46987110 Report

Quoted By:

>>46986994
Kek this schizo is all over twitter, also no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 02:49:02 No.46987120 Report

Quoted By: >>46988083 >>46988595

Where did all these "Iris will win" posters come from?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 02:52:33 No.46987144 Report

Quoted By: >>46988006

>>46987102
favoritism for one or two episodes isn't nearly as aggravating as favoritism for the entire show's lenght

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 02:54:13 No.46987165 Report

Quoted By: >>46987176 >>46987182 >>46988128

>>46986994
>catching every pokemon is boring
wrong, catching a new Pokemon is always exciting and the fact Ash rarely does it is a shame.
>annoying gimmick
wrong again, catching Pokemon is the point
>forced development
agreed
>too much attention
he's supposed to be a dual-MC, not just a friend like other series'
>clear favortism
Disagree, Ash has been absolutely killing it
>Annoying DeX voice
I don't know what that means
>Galar starters into merch
Galar starters are fucking gay and Ash's team is awesome as is, I don't give a fuck Ash didn't get the Shill Lizard, Bara Monkey, or ugly Lizard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 02:56:11 No.46987176 Report

Quoted By: >>46987193

>>46987165
>I don't know what that means
I think they mean the voice of Goh's Rotom Dex

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 02:56:34 No.46987179 Report

Quoted By: >>46987823

>>46986994
Lmao, these people are so fucking autistic? Made the Galar starters into merch. What the fuck does that even mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 02:56:49 No.46987182 Report

Quoted By:

>>46987165
>Shill Lizard
shill bunny, my B

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 02:57:50 No.46987193 Report

Quoted By: >>46987203

>>46987176
The voice of all Rotom dexes are an absolute affront to all sense, with the only exception being Team Rocket's

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 02:58:44 No.46987203 Report

Quoted By: >>46987213

>>46987193
Ash and Chloe's sound fine

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 02:59:51 No.46987212 Report

Quoted By:

>>46986994
>36 seconds
go back retard

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 03:00:08 No.46987213 Report

Quoted By:

>>46987203
Disagree, they all sound retarded. Rotom Dex and Rotom Phones are without a doubt the worst things to happen to the series. We need Dexter back

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 03:40:42 No.46987494 Report

Quoted By:

>>46982379
She's worst girl is what she is

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 04:26:14 No.46987823 Report

Quoted By:

>>46987179
I think that twitter user had a stroke. Also, virtually every Pokémon in existence has been made into merch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 04:36:38 No.46987859 Report

Quoted By:

>>46985763
Nah, they'll somehow shift the focus to Goh so he'll probably get some asspull battle sense that will make Koharu say "Goh, you've really grown up" or some shit with AshvGary in the background, forgotten

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 04:49:36 No.46987934 Report

Quoted By:

>>46986511
We knew Ash’s Dragonite was powerful the moment he first used it. The strength of its hugs was one thing, but how fast and how well it could traverse in the Desert Resort was another. Also like you mentioned, Dragonite was the main damage dealer against Golurk, who was knocking out every other Pokémon in the raid battle.

It’s not just strong because it’s a Dragonite. It’s the fact that it showed itself to be strong well before the Korrina battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 05:01:34 No.46988000 Report

Quoted By:

>>46985763
She doesn't seem to be one who cares about Pokemon battles, so no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 05:02:16 No.46988006 Report

Quoted By:

>>46987144
What I mean is, for whatever reason they making Iris of all people the only companion allowed really allowed to beat Ash while traveling with him (Misty won off some fluke once) or give him a hard time. Not sure why they specifically chose her. They aren't even rivals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 05:17:04 No.46988083 Report

Quoted By:

>>46987120
it was a handful of people who just kept spamming it over and over again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 05:24:38 No.46988128 Report

Quoted By:

>>46987165
>Catching new Pokémon is always exciting

Maybe if he actually did anything with them. But otherwise they're actually right on that point. Goh capturing many Pokémon could've been an interesting idea but it is being executed badly

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 05:35:25 No.46988191 Report

Quoted By:

>>46986994
>Made the Galar Starters into merch

What the hell is this nigga talking about? The Starters has ALWAYS been the primary source of marketing in every Generation.

And they're getting by far more screentime than any of Ash Pokémon combined so I don't even know what they have to complain about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 06:47:03 No.46988595 Report

Quoted By:

>>46987120
People just making assumptions given the writers like to make Iris look good against Ash or its Irisfags that feel her bring Champion is some sort of catharsis for people shitting on her character all throughout BW.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 07:21:31 No.46988761 Report

Quoted By: >>46990188 >>46991523

>>46986994
>another schizo posts their twitter
Bring it in boys, that's two of them. Let me introduce you to /padt/'s new slogan.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 07:22:47 No.46988765 Report

Quoted By:

>>46982390
>shota being gay for another shota?
>forgetting that Goh himself spent the night with Sonia and multiple nights with Koharu
Little autist is as male as you get even has the stereotypical Engineering mindset where Logic dominates Emotions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 08:07:59 No.46988930 Report

Quoted By: >>46988972 >>46989318

Guise, I want to get into anime for the first time since XY days. Is it good? Battles and plot are fun?
How do rank this anime compared to previous seasons?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 08:22:11 No.46988972 Report

Quoted By: >>46989481 >>46990250

>>46988930
SM was a really low slump, though if you liked DP/XY I recommend you watch the last six episodes of SM. Everything up till that point is either dull, uneventful, or both. PM by comparison is better than SM but that's really not a hard bar to clear. Compared to the previous seasons it's a solid average, not a must watch but not a waste of time. If you like the pokemon anime and comfy episodic affairs then give it a watch. Else, pass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 08:32:39 No.46989005 Report

Quoted By:

>>46986041
>girlfriend
You mean her house wife?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 09:00:33 No.46989111 Report

Quoted By:

>>46982225

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 09:33:13 No.46989248 Report

Quoted By:

>>46986041
Anyone unironically shipped them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 09:48:22 No.46989311 Report

Quoted By:

>>46986994
Goh is trash and ruins PM, yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 09:49:32 No.46989318 Report

Quoted By: >>46990250

>>46988930
>Is it good?
no, the new faggot character ruined it
best seasons are OS, DP, SM

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 10:14:11 No.46989444 Report

Quoted By: >>46989460

>>46982355
>That rear

Does this confirm Iris as a black girl?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 10:17:19 No.46989460 Report

Quoted By:

>>46989444
>Sweden
kek every fuckin' time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 10:21:23 No.46989472 Report

Quoted By: >>46989501 >>46989521

I'm honestly shocked how much people here seem to love Ash to the point they blame his current costar with the things he has been guilty of as well. Ash is fucking horrendous and has overstayed his welcome. Pikachu's voice is DAGGERS at this point as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 10:24:06 No.46989481 Report

Quoted By: >>46989509

>>46988972
>dull and uneventful
Are you Adamant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 10:29:45 No.46989501 Report

Quoted By:

>>46989472
Ash sucks, but goh sucks so much more

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 10:32:39 No.46989509 Report

Quoted By:

>>46989481
are you retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 10:35:48 No.46989521 Report

Quoted By:

>>46989472
This, Ash is dogshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 10:49:53 No.46989556 Report

Quoted By:

Goh is dogshit

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 11:03:33 No.46989597 Report

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 12:27:12 No.46989959 Report

Quoted By:

>>46983279
The biggest Lie ever said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 12:30:26 No.46989969 Report

Quoted By:

>>46985685
Unless they incorperate it into a special episode,
I can't really see that. Alain? Got 4 and has atleast a base for his strength/delevopment through XYZ.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 12:46:00 No.46990043 Report

Quoted By:

>>46986267
>XY Ash commands a blinded Pikachu vs Team Rocket
>Think more out of the box.
>Can hold his ground against weaknesses.
>Feels more mature, if not refined version of his profession as a Trainer, and has a more contributed delevopment to his goal as a Pokemon Master than S&M.
>Genuinely puts Fair Play and Respect between his Pokemon and his Rivals at the top.
>Wants to push a new possibility to the limit.
>Can lose without feeling bad, just hates how he loses.

What's the problem with his growth after 16 seasons?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:09:34 No.46990132 Report

Quoted By: >>46992260

Isshu Champion Satoshi!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:19:36 No.46990165 Report

Quoted By:

>Past companion returns to lose
Ehh, I've came to accept this. Happened with Misty, May and Dawn already.
Even though with the kind of emphasis the staff all put on Iris here, it would be better if she simply won and motivated Ash to train harder.

But that would mean she'd have to reappear, and it seems old characters having more than one episode is a no-no in Journeys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:20:57 No.46990170 Report

Quoted By: >>46990177 >>46990248 >>46990298 >>46990316

Why can't Irisfags defend this writing, at the end it just comes down to "well after all the shit she got, she deserves this I'm happy". How can one be happy with shit writing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:22:10 No.46990177 Report

Quoted By:

>>46990170
If she stayed the same you would be on the opposite side, crying on how she did no progress while traveling off-screen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:24:18 No.46990188 Report

Quoted By:

>>46988761
Cute gang!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:36:02 No.46990248 Report

Quoted By: >>46990524

>>46990170
The real problem is that you care about the writing of the fucking pokemon anime

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:36:56 No.46990250 Report

Quoted By:

>>46988972
>>46989318
Thank you brothers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:36:59 No.46990251 Report

Quoted By: >>46990258 >>46990263 >>46990280 >>46990830 >>46991523

Rumor on twitter is that Ash loses to Iris and that Volkner is the next character to return.

Clemontfags BTFO if true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:37:58 No.46990258 Report

Quoted By: >>46990270

>>46990251
>Ash loses to Iris
other way around

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:39:16 No.46990263 Report

Quoted By: >>46990303

>>46990251
That would be pretty based for a sinnoh arc, as an xyfag im a bit disappointed by the prospect but also clemont being in the hyper class doesn’t really make sense anyways

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:40:47 No.46990270 Report

Quoted By: >>46990276

>>46990258
Oops wrote it backwards. I think Ash moves to 99 or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:42:20 No.46990276 Report

Quoted By:

>>46990270
yeh im pretty sure, looks like it's been deleted because i cant find it rn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:43:22 No.46990280 Report

Quoted By:

>>46990251
Has the anime ever had any actual leakers/leaks other than the leaked poster for this series in 2019, and the final evolutions of the alola starters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:46:25 No.46990298 Report

Quoted By:

>>46990170
Why are you complaining about shit writing is a show that is essentially 20 years of shit writing? At this point, I'm just happy that the shit writing is doing things that I like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:47:00 No.46990303 Report

Quoted By: >>46990312

>>46990263
Clemont never made any sense. We have sinnoh remakes coming up and Volkner's ace is Luxray.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:48:46 No.46990312 Report

Quoted By: >>46990334 >>46990367

>>46990303
>Volkner's ace is Luxray
Raichu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:49:00 No.46990316 Report

Quoted By:

>>46990170
Because she's been gone for nearly a decade. Of course she was gonna get some shit done off-screen

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:50:05 No.46990322 Report

Quoted By: >>46990332 >>46990362 >>46990555 >>46990725

THIS JUST IN

CHINESE LEAKBROS CONFIRM ASH VICTORY(take with a grain of salt)

TWEET WAS DELETED HERES SS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:52:12 No.46990332 Report

Quoted By:

>>46990322
Actual leaker here. Iris wins

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:52:28 No.46990334 Report

Quoted By:

>>46990312
That reminds me, it's so weird he didn't use it in his battle vs Ash, maybe if we didn't have a Pikachu vs Raichu episode already they would have done it, but as it stands the memorable pokemon he uses in the show is Luxray

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:57:33 No.46990362 Report

Quoted By: >>46990422

>>46990322
>Chinese forum
>Reliable sources
I don't think so

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 13:58:36 No.46990367 Report

Quoted By:

>>46990312
True, but they have already done Raichu vs Pikachu. And there has been a flood of Luxray merchandise in recent weeks.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 14:05:59 No.46990396 Report

Quoted By: >>46990401 >>46990420 >>46990581 >>46990664

Apparently people on Serebii are saying that because Ash is a boy means he is not allowed to catch a Gardevoir or any other Feminine Pokémon.

Never mind that fact that he also has a Bayleef

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 14:06:59 No.46990401 Report

Quoted By: >>46990427 >>46990437

>>46990396
bayleef isnt feminine

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 14:10:52 No.46990420 Report

Quoted By:

>>46990396
>Implying they ever gave a fuck about giving male protags girly pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 14:11:23 No.46990422 Report

Quoted By:

>>46990362
PokeFans_Taiwan is one of the biggest leakers in the anipoke community. Almost all the scans and episode titles come straight from them or randos on 2ch. I think yes.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 14:12:39 No.46990427 Report

Quoted By: >>46990482

>>46990401
>Ash's Bayleef
>Not girly as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 14:13:44 No.46990436 Report

Quoted By:

So who will be the Gen 3 rep Ash fights after Volkner?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 14:13:49 No.46990437 Report

Quoted By: >>46990482

>>46990401
Ash’s Bayleef is literally a girl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 14:23:50 No.46990482 Report

Quoted By:

>>46990427
>>46990437
my bad, i assumed you meant overtly feminine looking, which bayleef isn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 14:33:08 No.46990524 Report

Quoted By:

>>46990248
BASED

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 14:36:25 No.46990555 Report

Quoted By:

>>46990322
so this tweet was deleted but they kept the Volkner leak

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 14:40:17 No.46990581 Report

Quoted By:

>>46990396
also snivy

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 14:42:45 No.46990592 Report

Quoted By: >>46990666

If Volkner returns it's likely that Flint might return as well

I hope we get a rematch!
Infernape vs Infernape would be sweet.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 14:57:25 No.46990664 Report

Quoted By: >>46990721 >>46990728 >>46990799 >>46990819

>>46990396
Outside the Anime Gendered Stereotypes never mattered in Pokémon

Elios got Primarina in Masters
Selene got Decidueye in Masters

Victor has been paired with the Scorbunny Line in SwSh Merchandise
Gloria has been paired with the Sobble Line in SwSh Merchandise

Bede gets Hattrene and Fairy Types
Marnie gets Grimmsnarl and Dark Types

Hell it never mattered in the Anime either until XY and onwards all of sudden.

Misty had a Gyarados and Psyduck
May had a Blaziken
Dawn had a Mamoswine
Iris had Excadrill and now maybe has Haxorus.

But it's like starting with Serena and onwards, female characters have only ever been allowed to have cutesy marketable or Feminine Pokémon.

Serena got Little Witch Academia Fox, Fairy Eeveelution, and Pancham wasn't even allowed to Evolve

Lana got Mermaid Seal and an unevolvable Partner Eevee. She wasn't even allowed to catch that Dewpider that would've fit her perfectly.

Mallow didn't have shit besides Tsareena

Lillie had Snowy and later Magearna.

Chloe only has Eevee who will never evolve, and maybe Yamper who will also probably never evolve.
Oh and maybe My Little Ponyta might come back.

What the hell happened /padt/?

Why aren't the girls in the Anime allowed to have variety anymore?
Why are they only shackled to cute mons?
Why can't the Girls in the Anime have Cool, Ugly, Scary, Badass, or just plain Non-Cute/Feminine looking Pokémon anymore?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 14:58:07 No.46990666 Report

Quoted By:

>>46990592
Probably.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 15:06:48 No.46990721 Report

Quoted By:

>>46990664
They just didn't give a shit about the female characters in XY and SM. In journeys, they pretty much now being honest about it and made Chloe a side character. However, they are kind of making up for it with Ash's PWC opponents. Korrina, Bea, and Iris aren't regulated just shilling cute mons and to showcases some badasses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 15:07:45 No.46990725 Report

Quoted By: >>46990749

>>46990322
How would the Chinese know what happens a week ahead of time? Where do the chinese get the anime? It's not broadcast there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 15:08:22 No.46990728 Report

Quoted By:

>>46990664
Hell even Jessie has sorta gotten has gotten struck with this

She got Gourgeist in XY (Feminine) and Mimikyu in SM (Cute)

She doesn't get jackshit in Journeys of course because Fuck the Gatcha Machine

Ah well at least she still has Wobbufett

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 15:12:47 No.46990749 Report

Quoted By:

>>46990725
Idk but apparently they’re a reputable leak account

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 15:13:54 No.46990761 Report

Quoted By:

I'd be surprised if Iris pulls out Haxorus and still loses. Feels like one of those hype pokemon Ash would lose to at first and come back for a rematch later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 15:20:33 No.46990799 Report

Quoted By: >>46990926 >>46991673

>>46990664
>Victor has been paired with the Scorbunny Line in SwSh Merchandise
Scorbunny isnt advertly feminine outside of fanart, if anything its more a generic sports shota

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 15:23:49 No.46990819 Report

Quoted By:

>>46990664
I'd honestly attribute it to none of the girls since BW being battle-focused, meaning they could push for cutemons that act more as shouldermons and setpieces than battle-partners

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 15:25:31 No.46990830 Report

Quoted By: >>46990869 >>46991801

>>46990251
Volkner is incredibly boring personality wise and Ash battling him again would be a waste. Ash needs to battle Gym leaders he had cheap wins against like the Kanto ones or ones he missed out on like Drayden.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 15:26:56 No.46990837 Report

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what episode is this
https://img3.gelbooru.com//samples/78/93/sample_789380a1629c5685cad39fb8fb8e39cf.jpg

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 15:33:55 No.46990869 Report

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>>46990830
He is being brought back for the remakes.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 15:43:24 No.46990926 Report

Quoted By:

>>46990799
It's not feminine but it's the only Galar Starter that remains Cutesy, Cuddly and Plushie-like throughout it's entire line while the other two Starters get progressively Uglier.

That's why I pointed out that it being paired with Victor breaks Gender Stereotypes since one would expect the Line to paired with Gloria in merchandise since she's a Girl and Girls are usually tied to Cute and Cuddly things

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:10:06 No.46991093 Report

Quoted By: >>46991129

This is probably the most hyped up episode in a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:12:39 No.46991107 Report

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I'll leave this link here, it's how I was able to get most of best wishes episodes subbed as some torrents were dead.
https://archive.org/details/PocketMonstersFansubs_20181105
It contains the og series to x/y. Perhaps it would be a good idea to include in the pastebin.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:13:02 No.46991110 Report

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I just want Ash to beat Iris' ass everytime she appears. He should have used Charizard. Now we gotta go through Excadrill vs Pikachu again.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:13:02 No.46991111 Report

Quoted By: >>46991277

based

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:14:17 No.46991120 Report

Quoted By: >>46991130 >>46991154

Dracovish doesn't deserve to go through two Pokemon with zero training.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:16:23 No.46991129 Report

Quoted By: >>46991144

>>46991093
I only am watching because she's returning as an actual champion. It's hype to see companions actually succeeding.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:16:28 No.46991130 Report

Quoted By:

>>46991120
What if Ash recalled his after a bit, and then Dragonite takes on Haxorus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:18:21 No.46991144 Report

Quoted By: >>46991177 >>46991188

>>46991129
That's not the reason I'm watching. The entire concept is just incredibly dumb and illogical so I'm hoping that they're somehow able to justify it or hide the bad writing with a well-animated battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:19:38 No.46991154 Report

Quoted By: >>46991256

>>46991120
That's the thing about fossils, writers can make them as strong as they want with the excuse of them being already immensely powerful before dying

The official anipoke twitter said Dracovish didn't learn fishious rend, it already knew that move and it simply remembered it when Ash mentioned it. Dracovish was likely a super powerful pokémon before its death

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:20:31 No.46991163 Report

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I'm more interested in how they're going to justify keeping Ash around after this series is over. He'll likely get to best 8 trainers in the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:23:13 No.46991177 Report

Quoted By: >>46991208 >>46991215 >>46991217

>>46991144
Dude Iris is a Champion in the games, like, what did you want the writers to do with her? Wait another 10 years until she has another opportunity to appear?
Iris being a Champion is a good thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:23:43 No.46991180 Report

Quoted By:

>>46985681
Based

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:23:51 No.46991182 Report

Quoted By:

Anyone else still in denialfag mode about Iris being made Champion?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:24:34 No.46991188 Report

Quoted By: >>46991208

>>46991144
>That's not the reason I'm watching.
Are you the person that I replied to? If you are, then why are you hyped for the upcoming episode. If you're not then okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:28:02 No.46991208 Report

Quoted By: >>46991252

>>46991177
>>46991188
Uh, make her Gym Leader of the Opelucid City Gym as that would both make logical and narrative sense? This isn't the games anon.
As far as why I'm hyped, it's mostly just a feeling of dread, like I'm on the edge of my seat to witness a train wreck or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:28:59 No.46991215 Report

Quoted By: >>46991874

>>46991177
How? Seems out of the blue currently.
And besides Iris is a champion in a sequel, which plays 2 YEARS after the events of BW.
Unless there is going to be a few more episodes covering that timegap, we could use that treatment for literally any other game-related character in the anime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:29:18 No.46991217 Report

Quoted By: >>46991231 >>46991319 >>46991349

>>46991177
Make her the 8th gym leader, like the BW series alluded to. Also, not make her have the most massive growth to overcome for the shit job you did with her in BW. Dawn better return as Top Coordinator, and Serena as Karlos Queen after this if Iris can go from someone not even able to beat Gym leaders to above the E4.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:31:05 No.46991231 Report

Quoted By:

>>46991217
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:33:45 No.46991252 Report

Quoted By: >>46991291

>>46991208
>As far as why I'm hyped, it's mostly just a feeling of dread, like I'm on the edge of my seat to witness a train wreck or something.
That's interesting. It doesn't look it'll be a train wreck anymore than the average episode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:34:44 No.46991256 Report

Quoted By: >>46991270

>>46991154
>Dracovish was likely a super powerful pokémon before its death
But Dracovish never became extinct because it never existed to begin with

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:36:07 No.46991269 Report

Quoted By:

>another filler episode
Thank god we are having a relevant episode next week. Fuck Goh-centred episodes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:36:09 No.46991270 Report

Quoted By:

>>46991256
it was 2 powerful pokémon before their death then

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:36:20 No.46991273 Report

Quoted By:

The episode is written by Tomioka and the animation from the preview looks good. It definitely looks to be a good episode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:37:16 No.46991277 Report

Quoted By: >>46991284 >>46991286

>>46991111
This means Ash's Dragonite lost, right? Dracovish is landing the revenge kill on Iris'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:37:33 No.46991279 Report

Quoted By:

Honestly, if Iris came back as a gym leader and beat Ash, bit then later appeared as a Champion in the best 8 with all the other Champions plus Ash, it be better than what we have now. It at least show progression, while also showing both her game roles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:38:08 No.46991284 Report

Quoted By:

>>46991277
Yes, makes sense. Ash's Dragonite hasn't been in anywhere the amount of battles as Iris.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:38:38 No.46991286 Report

Quoted By:

>>46991277
I wouldn't be surprised if they just repeat the set up for Ash vs Korrina, but replace Gengar with Dragonite and Dracovish sweeps

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:39:21 No.46991291 Report

Quoted By:

>>46991252
It's because of the writing as I said

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:43:25 No.46991319 Report

Quoted By:

>>46991217
>Dawn better return as Top Coordinator, and Serena as Karlos Queen after this
I mean that would actually makes sense because those were their goals, Iris goal was to became a Dragon Master and never showed any interest in the League

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:47:04 No.46991349 Report

Quoted By: >>46991398

>>46991217
>Dawn better return as Top Coordinator, and Serena as Karlos Queen after this if Iris can go from someone not even able to beat Gym leaders to above the E4.

Sure if the writers give a shit about them (hint: they don't).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:50:47 No.46991376 Report

Quoted By: >>46991387

Nah, Dawn needs to win a Grand Festival on-screen. Having her win one off-screen would feel cheap to me and feel like I missed an episode. I'd rather they not do that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:52:30 No.46991387 Report

Quoted By: >>46991391 >>46991633

>>46991376
Apply this logic to Iris except that it's much worse.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:53:29 No.46991391 Report

Quoted By:

>>46991387
Nobody cares about Iris as much as Dawn.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:55:03 No.46991398 Report

Quoted By: >>46991547

>>46991349
Of course, they clearly love Ash getting beat by brown people (Leon, Bea, Iris). Brock is the only one to defy the "old character returns just to lose" trope, Iris likely will too.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 16:56:49 No.46991408 Report

Quoted By: >>46991547 >>46991623

Remember that Satoshit fans get the rope first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 17:14:12 No.46991523 Report

Quoted By:

>>46990251
>source, dude trust me Twitter said so

See >>46988761

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 17:16:41 No.46991547 Report

Quoted By: >>46991839

>>46991398
>>46991408
Imagine Iris pushing Satoshi down and stepping on him ha ha

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 17:23:25 No.46991609 Report

Quoted By: >>46991738

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 17:25:20 No.46991623 Report

Quoted By: >>46991747

>>46991408
Satoshi will be getting Iris's champion title

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 17:26:21 No.46991633 Report

Quoted By:

>>46991387
>except that it's much worse
But it's not, the league/championship is no more prestigious than the grand festival is

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 17:31:21 No.46991673 Report

Quoted By: >>46991888

>>46990799
Yeah Scorbunny's whole line is supposed to be based off a shounen protagonist type character, that's why they made him the ambassador of Japan's Football Association.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 17:39:34 No.46991738 Report

Quoted By:

>>46991609
this guys art is so impressive

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 17:40:40 No.46991747 Report

Quoted By: >>46991782

>>46991623
He should get his league title back from Bea before trying to face a real winner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 17:45:06 No.46991782 Report

Quoted By: >>46991796

>>46991747
good thing ash is a real winner too!

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 17:46:51 No.46991796 Report

Quoted By: >>46991812 >>46991861

>>46991782
>good thing ash is a real winner too!

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 17:47:23 No.46991801 Report

Quoted By: >>46991897

>>46990830
>This
But my vote is for Steven or any Unova E4

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 17:49:34 No.46991812 Report

Quoted By: >>46991853

>>46991796
Alola might have been a shit tier league but it still counts as being champion

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 17:53:52 No.46991839 Report

Quoted By:

>>46991547
Why stop there? We can go further

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 17:55:02 No.46991853 Report

Quoted By:

>>46991812
I don't really care whether people think Alola is legit or not, but it does make his Orange title look much better in hindsight. I always saw it discredited as a meme title back in the day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 17:55:41 No.46991861 Report

Quoted By:

>>46991796
Based kek

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 17:56:45 No.46991874 Report

Quoted By: >>46991979

>>46991215
>And besides Iris is a champion in a sequel, which plays 2 YEARS after the events of BW.
You’re saying this when BW2 Cheren appeared while BW Bianca was the design they went with.

I really don’t understand what people are so confused or upset about. Iris has been gone for 7 years, and the last time we saw her she was beginning her Dragon Master training journey while following Rayquaza. Iris was ALWAYS a strong trainer, no matter how bullshit I or anyone else thinks her battles were.

The last thing Drayden told her was to continue to train in order to become the new Opelucid Gym Leader, so it’s clear she was going to come back with some type of powerup.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 17:57:34 No.46991880 Report

Quoted By:

Tbh I doubt Alder will be brought up at all. I don't think Iris ever challenged the Unova Elite 4 or Alder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 17:58:22 No.46991888 Report

Quoted By: >>46992025

>>46991673
Still mad they didn’t give Scorbunny to Ash. The biggest missed opportunity this series has had so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 17:59:24 No.46991897 Report

Quoted By:

>>46991801
I really cannot wait for Ash and Steven to duke it out finally. Out of all the potential PWC battles, Ash VS Cynthia and Steven are the two I’m excited for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:08:40 No.46991979 Report

Quoted By: >>46992056 >>46992066

>>46991874
>a power up

Yeah, a gym leader. Can you honestly sit here and tell me, based on how little she battled in BW, and how her battles weren't ever as creative or tactical as trainers like Paul or Ash (all she did for 90% of her battles was just Unga bunga), that she deserves to be an E4 caliber trainer over someone like Ash who objectively trained much much more than she ever did?

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:13:40 No.46992025 Report

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>>46991888
Yeah it does feel like a Pokemon they would give to Ash, maybe they wanted to have two aces for this season since there's two protagonists now.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:14:02 No.46992032 Report

Quoted By:

They really should have just made Hilda the traveling companion over Iris. The issues with thr writing of her character would have been alleviated if she were a rival, or recurring character/gym leader.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:15:59 No.46992056 Report

Quoted By: >>46992169 >>46992299

>>46991979
>based on how little she battled in BW,
Dude, I hate Iris more than any girl in the series, and even I know she battled a lot in BW
> and how her battles weren't ever as creative or tactical as trainers like Paul or Ash
Neither did most trainers in Unova, the skill level was very low
> that she deserves to be an E4 caliber trainer over someone like Ash who objectively trained much much more than she ever did?
You guys are blowing these “tiers” way out of proportion, either that or you guys don’t understand how tiers work. is an E4/Champion tier trainer, the last battle his Pikachu had before the start of JN was of it defeating Tapu Koko, a very powerful legendary Pokémon, and it got completely one sided by Leon’s Charizard which is another Champion tier trainer. Whether or not Iris became Champion like Ash is irrelevant, because Ash was always the stronger trainer so even if they are both “Champion tier” Iris is a lot lower on the list than Ash would be.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:16:45 No.46992066 Report

Quoted By: >>46992152

>>46991979
Iris won 99 battles as a kid, she's a prodigy so yes I can

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:24:28 No.46992147 Report

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I’m watching the new episode and man you can really tell when the focus is going to be on Go. They always make sure he’s the one at the forefront giving commentary, his Pokémon are always at the helm of the action, and when it comes to the Pokémon that are involved, he’s the one trying to get involved with them.

I wonder why they made it seem like Ash was the one being focused on in the preview

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:24:52 No.46992152 Report

Quoted By: >>46992163 >>46992170

>>46992066
So did Korrina, and look where she is now. Try again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:25:54 No.46992163 Report

Quoted By: >>46992217

>>46992152
korrina was always an irrelevant side character

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:26:43 No.46992169 Report

Quoted By: >>46992204

>>46992056
While on the main cast, Iris battled about 14 times in 140 episodes and barely came out above .500

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:26:50 No.46992170 Report

Quoted By:

>>46992152
A well accomplished Gym Leader with a Mega Evolution? Is she somehow a bad trainer because she lost to Ash and another Gym Leader that has been beating all Fighting-type trainers and not even Ash could beat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:29:24 No.46992204 Report

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>>46992169
While on the main cast, Iris’ Axew knocked Cynthi’s Garchomp on its ass with one hit; something not even Paul could do

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:30:33 No.46992217 Report

Quoted By: >>46992252

>>46992163
You can say that, but 99 wins against fodder is not impressive. Those 99 wins didn't mean shit in those next two Don arcs and certainly didn't mean shit against Drayden or Clair, with the latter being someone who Ash beat 2 decades ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:32:37 No.46992241 Report

Quoted By: >>46992334

>I’ll solve this by catching them

Is Goh a psychopath?

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:32:56 No.46992244 Report

Quoted By: >>46992287

You guys are putting more thought into this than the writers ever did. Iris is champion because in BW2 she was champion of the Elite 4. That's it.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:33:39 No.46992252 Report

Quoted By: >>46992263

>>46992217
But didn’t she win one of the don tournaments?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:34:51 No.46992260 Report

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>>46990132
NGL, if we get Alola League and Unova league Champion Iris I’m going to laugh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:35:06 No.46992263 Report

Quoted By: >>46992304

>>46992252
She won the first one, because Pikachu was at a disadvantage to Excadrill which was a ground type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:35:19 No.46992265 Report

Quoted By: >>46992582 >>46993083

I wish the anime stopped sucking the dick of dragon pokemon and trainers

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:35:30 No.46992267 Report

Quoted By: >>46992311

>>46982466
>The feeling of an "otherworldly adventure" is one of the Ashnime's strongest selling points, and we all need to get that dose of escapism every now and then
This.
>>46982512
Do you honestly think Kanto was all that good? Take off the nostalgia goggles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:38:31 No.46992287 Report

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>>46992244
The fandom always obsess over stuff the writers themselves don't give a shit about.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:40:20 No.46992299 Report

Quoted By: >>46992381 >>46992384 >>46992403 >>46992437

>>46992056
>is an E4/Champion tier trainer
Ash at his very best using his best Pokemon at their best can push regional champion level trainers, but he can't defeat regional champions. So him using Ash-Grenninja and him managing to give Diantha's Mega Gardevoir a fight is him at his most impressive with his most impressive Pokemon.

When he's pushing himself and reach his regular highs, then he's firmly E4 tier (Battle Frontier wins, even fights with Alain). But E4 level is still a cut below regional champion level from what we saw of Cynthia and her defeating 3 of Sinnoh's E4. Unova's E4 was able to stalemate Cynthia's Garchomp, so they're not as weak as the trainers we saw in their league. Iris, if she is Unova's regional champion, should be stronger than Ash at his very best. And if Ash wins, it just means that he is now stronger than ever rather than him just being as strong as he has been shown to be.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:40:45 No.46992304 Report

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>>46992263
I mean she should have lost to Luke as she was helpless and Axew won using a move I don't think it ever used again. But characters have won like that before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:41:28 No.46992311 Report

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>>46992267
>Do you honestly think Kanto was all that good?
Yes, it's good because Ash starts out shitty but legitimately grows as a trainer from it to the Orange Islands to Johto, it's good because it has a lot of charm and personality that all the other series lack because it didn't need to be as sterile, it's good because it has the best art style

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:44:37 No.46992333 Report

Quoted By: >>46992350

AAAIIIEEEEEE

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:44:39 No.46992334 Report

Quoted By: >>46992395 >>46992529

>>46992241
In regards to the newest episode? No, what else was he supposed to do, risk Cinderace's life by getting it to try and move Absol out of the way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:46:08 No.46992350 Report

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>>46992333
i like that this legitimately pissed cynthiafags off, they want her to be an untouchable mary sue so bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:49:14 No.46992381 Report

Quoted By: >>46992408

>>46992299
>Iris, if she is Unova's regional champion, should be stronger than Ash at his very best.

And that there is the issue. They usually do a better job progressing characters than this. But they meandered too much with Iris in BW, they just skipped a bunch of progression steps and made her chsmpion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:49:29 No.46992384 Report

Quoted By: >>46992467

>>46992299
>but he can't defeat regional champions
Ash could definitely defeat “regional champions” if he really wanted to which is exactly what’s going to happen with the PWC. We really don’t give his collection of Pokémon enough credit especially with the feats a lot of them have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:50:52 No.46992389 Report

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hope Iris wins. I want Ashfags crying

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:51:30 No.46992395 Report

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>>46992334
Are you retarded? That’s what he said when they found the Glalie and Snorunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:53:08 No.46992403 Report

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>>46992299
>Iris, if she is Unova's regional champion, should be stronger than Ash at his very best.
Holy fuck I lost brain cells reading this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:53:55 No.46992408 Report

Quoted By: >>46992472

>>46992381
Not exactly. I think some of you guys are putting too much stock into titles. I wouldn't be shocked if one of the reasons why Iris is a champion now, besides being a nice nod to the games, is because they want to show how titles aren't everything in the PWC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 18:58:09 No.46992437 Report

Quoted By: >>46992550

>>46992299
Iris has beat Ash literally one time, lost to the Gym Leader he beat on his first try, and only now became Champion after he already went through two regions, winning the League in one and coming in 2nd place in the other. One of those Leagues he was beating their Champion before he even had his 8th badge. How the hell is Iris suddenly being Champion make her any stronger than Ash? Did Misty getting a Mega Gyarados and battling on her home turf prevent her from getting her ass whooped by Pikachu?

You guys don’t understand power levels at all and it shows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:02:30 No.46992467 Report

Quoted By: >>46992543

>>46992384
E4 level is giving Ash a ton of credit, and the PWC is certainly going to and has upped the powerlevels for the characters.

But before this series, there's no way Ash could've beaten someone like Cynthia. Alain's strongest Pokemon still lost to an E4 mega, so it's not like he was clearly above the E4 but rather at their level. Scott mentioned that Brains were at the level of other E4, and Brandon could be argued to be well above the rest of the Kanto Brains, but Ash only beat Brandon when he used none of his Regi in battle, so I wouldn't go as far as to say that would defeat any. He could push them like any E4 member, but he wouldn't win any of those battles.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:02:47 No.46992472 Report

Quoted By: >>46992578 >>46992684

>>46992408
True enough, but that begs the question if Ash does beat Leon, or at thr very least comes in second...how are they going to convincingly write Ash next series. Because if he's beating Champions at the end of Journeys, this almost seems like the end of the road for him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:09:23 No.46992529 Report

Quoted By: >>46992554 >>46992644

>>46992334
This, I guess retards wanted the Absol to get burned alive by the geyser

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:10:36 No.46992543 Report

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>>46992467
Again, you don’t understand power levels. First off, Scott says that the Frontier Brains are as strong as the Elite Four so Ash was “E4 level” all the way back in AG. And you wanna know why Ash was able to take them on and win? Because he used a mix of his past and current team of Pokémon who each have tons and tons of experience. The literal first battle was against an Articuno for fuck’s sake.

> there's no way Ash could've beaten someone like Cynthia
Headcanon
> Alain's strongest Pokemon still lost to an E4 mega
Before he went through the harsher training regimens. Did you forget after he cleared his training, he defeated an E4 Mega?
> but Ash only beat Brandon when he used none of his Regi in battle
Is Regice not a Regi? Torkoal almost beat Registeel, and Sceptile only lost because Ash was being brainwashed.
> He could push them like any E4 member, but he wouldn't win any of those battles.
This is the dumbest thing anyone has said in this thread so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:11:13 No.46992550 Report

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>>46992437
>You guys don’t understand power levels at all and it shows.
Getting a Mega isn't something that is the same as becoming Champion. There's a reason people why people are starting shit now that Iris looks like she's going to be Champion, and that's because the title (just like E4) carries an implicit understanding of strength, which is greater than just receiving a mega. I already addressed his battle with Diantha above, but if you look at the totality of Ash's battles, then it's clear that he's not as strong as Diantha.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:11:38 No.46992554 Report

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>>46992529
See >>46992395
Retard

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:13:04 No.46992567 Report

Quoted By: >>46992602

>>46992550
So Ash clearly overpowering a Champion’s ace doesn’t mean he’s stronger than them? What?

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:14:38 No.46992578 Report

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>>46992472
It is not too difficult for them since they usually have Ash drop his team and get a new one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:14:52 No.46992582 Report

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>>46992265
>I wish the anime stopped sucking the dick of dragon pokemon and trainers

If anything it's Fighting Type Pokémon and Trainers that have been sucked off the most in this series

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:16:17 No.46992589 Report

Quoted By: >>46992618

>>46992543
>Again, you don’t understand power levels. First off, Scott says that the Frontier Brains are as strong as the Elite Four so Ash was “E4 level” all the way back in AG. And you wanna know why Ash was able to take them on and win? Because he used a mix of his past and current team of Pokémon who each have tons and tons of experience. The literal first battle was against an Articuno for fuck’s sake.
I already said that he was E4 level during the Battle Frontier, retard. It's one of the reasons why I said he's E4 level at his best.

>Headcanon
Yeah no shit. I am asserting an opinion that I talked about throughout the rest of the post.

>Before he went through the harsher training regimens. Did you forget after he cleared his training, he defeated an E4 Mega?
No, I didn't. I stated that he was E4 level for defeating a E4's mega.

>Is Regice not a Regi? Torkoal almost beat Registeel, and Sceptile only lost because Ash was being brainwashed.
I did forget about Regice, but that battle was bullshit, and everyone has called it bullshit for years.

>This is the dumbest thing anyone has said in this thread so far.
Cry more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:17:33 No.46992595 Report

Quoted By: >>46992751

>>46992578
It'll be a bit different this time as he'll effectively be seen as the best or second best trainer in the world. Unless they use the next series to beat Ash down and humble him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:17:54 No.46992596 Report

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>People genuinely trying to justify Iris going from retarded carried by her fuck-strong Pokemon that none listened to to REGIONAL CHAMPION
C'mon son.
Even the biggest lover of brown cunny in the whole wide world cannot justify bullshit of this magnitude.
We all know the reason for this happening is IRIS IS CHAMPION IN THE GAMES = MAKE HER CHAMPION IN THE ANIME TOO without giving any second thought of the how or why and that's exactly is why bullshit and retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:18:10 No.46992599 Report

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Alain defeated an E4 member (Malva), Ash ALMOST won against Alain with two bad Pokémon on his team, it means that, with a good team, Ash can beat both Alain and Malva if he wants

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:18:21 No.46992602 Report

Quoted By: >>46992703

>>46992567
Imagine just uncritically accepting everyone's best feats and not taking in the totality of their feats. I guess Iris was approaching E4 levelin BW because her Axew caused Garchomp some pain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:20:13 No.46992618 Report

Quoted By: >>46992700

>>46992589
>I already said that he was E4 level during the Battle Frontier, retard. It's one of the reasons why I said he's E4 level at his best.
But that’s not what you said at all. You said
>>” E4 level is giving Ash a ton of credit”
>>” He could push them like any E4 member, but he wouldn't win any of those battles.”
Read your own posts dumbfuck
> I am asserting an opinion that I talked about throughout the rest of the post.
A wrong opinion.
> No, I didn't. I stated that he was E4 level for defeating a E4's mega.
Again, you did not say that. You said:
>>” Alain's strongest Pokemon still lost to an E4 mega”
>I did forget about Regice, but that battle was bullshit, and everyone has called it bullshit for years.
Cry more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:24:07 No.46992644 Report

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>>46992529
Let me rephrase that for you:
>I guess retards would rather see the Absol getting burned alive than being caught by Goh.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:28:49 No.46992684 Report

Quoted By: >>46992709

>>46992472
He is AT BEST going top 2, beating one champion in the way there and getting legit champion status in the eyes of the viewers, but I don't see him defeating Leon. I feel like the top 2 match should be Leon vs Raihan anyway, they wouldn't miss out on showing that fight.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:30:17 No.46992700 Report

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>>46992618
>But that’s not what you said at all. You said
Read the posts, retard:
>When he's pushing himself and reach his regular highs, then he's firmly E4 tier (Battle Frontier wins, even fights with Alain)
Do you know what "regular" means?

>A wrong opinion.
Still, it's no headcanon. It's just an assertion.

>Again, you did not say that. You said:
One of the reasons I stated Ash was E4 level is because he fought evenly against Alain. Implicit in that is that Alain is E4 level.

>Cry more.
You can't even follow some posts. Do you Asfags really take the Regice battle seriously? And you people are lecturing Irisfags?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:30:29 No.46992703 Report

Quoted By: >>46992769

>>46992602
Uh, no. You don’t seem to take context into account with these battles which is why anon said you don’t understand power levels, you just see a title and sperg out.

The clear difference between Ash VS Diantha and Iris VS Cynthia was that Ash-Greninja was overpowering Mega Gardevoir, had Diantha sweating at being overwhelmed and had Diantha commenting that if certain attacks had hit they would’ve been in trouble. Ash had put Diantha against the ropes and it was clear to EVERYONE that Ash was overpowering them and Greninja giving them little to no breathing room with its consecutive attacks.

Cynthia’s Garchomp took Axew’s attacks back to back and wasn’t fazed at all. Even the Giga Impact only knocked it over, but there was no clear signs of it actually being anything more than chip damage. The mere presence of Garchomp’s Brick Break froze Axew in place and Cynthia herself was ready to end the battle because she knew Axew couldn’t do anything.

So even if Iris is Champion now, so fucking what, all that means is she’s in the same tier bracket as Ash, only at the very bottom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:31:28 No.46992709 Report

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>>46992684
>they wouldn't miss out on showing that fight.
They already did, and it was kinda bad

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:35:35 No.46992743 Report

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>>46992596
Ash made it top 16 in his first league with unevolved Pokemon and not even legit winning some of his badges. I don't see why Iris, who already has great Pokemon, previous battling experience and good insight of the gym battles of Unova wouldn't make it really far in the League or even becoming the Champion. What she ultimately needed was practice and a definite goal, instead of just tagging along with Ash, not really doing much (but still managing to showcase interest in battles and having some proficiency in that field as well).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:36:51 No.46992749 Report

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>>46992748
>>46992748
>>46992748

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:36:59 No.46992751 Report

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>>46992595
True. What I would like to see is Ash become champion and have the series deal with the ramifications about that. But they will never do it.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 19:39:23 No.46992769 Report

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>>46992703
The Axew example was there to say that you can't jut take the highest things someone has shown and just go with that. Steven and Alain were okay head-to-head, but when they battled the Primals we saw Steven have much more impressive showings. Yeah, Greninja pressured Gardevoir. We saw later on that that very same Greninja lost to Wulfric. You guys just uncritically take them as on the level of Steven or Diantha because at their very peak they were able to push them in a one-on-one battle, which is nice but there are 5 other Pokemon on a team.

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Anonymous Sun 02 May 2021 20:13:08 No.46993083 Report

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>>46992265
Iris becoming champion makes sense if you blank most of BW except the part where she’s a child prodigy. What the fuck even was a “dragon master”, striving to be a being champion like her game counterpart makes infinitely more sense.

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