>>47014106Idk, Cinderace having it's stats arranged for purely Attack and Speed makes it deadly and more consistent with a Life orb, instead of having to decide to be a mixed attacker or not. He can also take a hit better than Greninja can, also Cinderace has even gotten banned from VGC at one point around the time he had first got Libero. Honestly I just want to be able to have both on my fucking team for type changing shenanigans.