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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 15:27:39 No.47047808 View View Reply Original Report

Reminder that If this little shit died or was ignored Ash could have won the Kanto league

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 15:28:15 No.47047812 Report

Quoted By: >>47048183

>>47047808
It's been over 20 years.
Let it go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:17:37 No.47048180 Report

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>>47047808
Ash would've also been Gary's bitch despite making it further into the league.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:18:03 No.47048183 Report

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>>47047812
never.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:22:18 No.47048230 Report

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>>47047808
If I was in the same situation like Charmander, no girl or trainer will pity me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:23:53 No.47048244 Report

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>>47047808
Maybe one more match but he would have still jobbed to everyone else

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:42:09 No.47048415 Report

Quoted By: >>47053945 >>47055599

>>47047808
Nope. Ash had other pokemon on hand when he made the decision to send out Charizard, but judged that Charizard was his only shot at taking out 2 of Rithie's remaining pokemon. Speaking of which, the competition in Indigo league was ridiculously weak- Ritchie got into top 8 with Butterfree and 2 NFE's

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 17:42:44 No.47048845 Report

Quoted By: >>47048923

>>47047808
If Ash let it die then he wouldn't deserve to be a trainer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 17:54:06 No.47048923 Report

Quoted By: >>47049169

>>47048845
You have thousands of Pokemon rotting in pc
You are not a better trainer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 17:57:23 No.47048948 Report

Quoted By: >>47048954

>>47047808
But he would have lost the orange league

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 17:58:00 No.47048954 Report

Quoted By: >>47050834

>>47048948
charizard didn't do anything in that league except jobbing to Dragonite

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 17:58:29 No.47048957 Report

Quoted By: >>47049153 >>47054306 >>47055609

Reminder that in the first scene of the anime that Nidorino gets put to sleep by a Gengar, and is allowed by the ref to swap out for an Onix. Shudo had a massive hateboner for Ash.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:23:44 No.47049153 Report

Quoted By: >>47050826

>>47048957
Maybe he wasn't allowed to make Ash win a league because "muh animu will end if he wun"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:25:23 No.47049163 Report

Quoted By: >>47049191

>>47047808
How would Ash beat Blaine without the Zard? All his other weak pokemon jobbed to Magmar

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:26:08 No.47049169 Report

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>>47048923
No I don't, I'm a catch and release kind of trainer. I don't keep pokemon unless I intend to use them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:27:47 No.47049191 Report

Quoted By: >>47054309

>>47049163
plot-armor Pikachu would do Magmar easily

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:33:38 No.47049249 Report

Quoted By: >>47049286

Ash should've thrown his Charizard Pokeball into an ocean after he lost Indigo league. He should've never wasted his time with a mon that was throwing temper tantrums over jobbing to a fight to make its trainer happy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:37:57 No.47049286 Report

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>>47049249
This but smashing charizard while in its pokeball so it becomes a Missing No forever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:40:37 No.47049304 Report

Quoted By: >>47049627

>>47047808
Ash would've lost either way since Team Rocket tired out half of his fucking team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 19:09:53 No.47049503 Report

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>>47047808
Ash would've died from aerodactyl

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 19:32:09 No.47049627 Report

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>>47049304
Maybe Ash should've put his career first over some ungrateful shits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 21:49:12 No.47050730 Report

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>>47047808
it was by far the cutest and kindest of the three starters ash owned even though it came across as not too bright
when it began evolving you could tell how shocked and scared it was

also charizard was the only mon in the original series that even remotely legitimized ash as a trainer of stature

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 21:51:51 No.47050755 Report

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>>47047808
Ash was retarded, there was no hope of him winning the first league.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 21:55:05 No.47050780 Report

Quoted By: >>47051245

>>47047808
Why did charmander become an unloyal ungrateful shitter

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:00:04 No.47050814 Report

Quoted By: >>47050829

>>47047808
I mean, it was technically TRio's fault since they kidnapped him, tried to burn him alive (In a serious way) and was forced to use his entire team bar Charizard to make it on time. Oh, and the referee was fucking asshole too.

Man, Shudo really hated Ash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:01:57 No.47050826 Report

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>>47049153
Nah, that policy wasn't even implemented yet since they didn't knew the anime would hit that hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:02:06 No.47050829 Report

Quoted By: >>47050988

>>47050814
>Man, Shudo really hated Ash.
Glad that fucker died old, bitter, suffering and alone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:02:36 No.47050834 Report

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>>47048954
He beat poliwrath after jobbing horribly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:22:55 No.47050988 Report

Quoted By: >>47051304 >>47051694

>>47050829
>because of a children anime
you are cringe autist

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:54:58 No.47051245 Report

Quoted By: >>47055631

>>47050780
It was too proud of its power, which led to its period of disobedience when Ash tried to get it to throw to a weak Paras since it no longer saw him as a worthy trainer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:03:05 No.47051304 Report

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>>47050988
kek

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:25:41 No.47051527 Report

Quoted By: >>47051571

>had other Pokemon on hand to send out
>sent Charizard

At that point, why did he even HAVE Charizard on his roster? He had Muk. He had Kingler. He still had his fucking herd of Tauros.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:27:39 No.47051547 Report

Quoted By: >>47052767 >>47053998 >>47054561

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:29:18 No.47051571 Report

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>>47051527
The Japanese OP showed Ritche's Charmander fighting Ash's Bulbasaur but it didn't happen as Ash used Charizard against Charmander instead.

They really didn't want Ash to win at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:43:47 No.47051694 Report

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>>47050988
The cringe autist is Shudo for thinking shit like getting Minko Momo run over by a truck is a good idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:18:08 No.47052767 Report

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>>47051547
>charmander doesn't die from rain anymore
One of the worst retcon attempts in the series

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 05:40:33 No.47053945 Report

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>>47048415
Butterfree could use Psychic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 05:49:45 No.47053998 Report

Quoted By: >>47054311

>>47051547
God Cross really was just a shitty bootleg Paul wasn’t he?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 05:52:23 No.47054011 Report

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>>47047808
Based and Truthpilled

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 05:54:00 No.47054022 Report

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>>47047808
>Ash could have won the Kanto league
Lol no, Ash was too retarded at the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 06:54:36 No.47054254 Report

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Charmander was really useful against Erica (although this one ended up as a pity badge) and Koga. Helped him catch Primeape (although Ash gave it away shortly after). Charizard saved his life against Aerodactyl and was vital to defeat Blaine. Magmar nearly killed Pikachu -nobody else was gonna beat Magmar. Ash would be dead without Charizard, and may not have even made it to the league anyhow. At that point in the show, it was Ash's fault for even bringing Charizard knowing his attitude, when he could have switched it out with Muk, Kingler or Tauros. Plenty of trainers around he could have traded with too. It's Ash's fault he lost.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 07:02:23 No.47054282 Report

Quoted By: >>47054587 >>47055422

>I wonder how Ash is going to gain the respect of his Charizard
>it almost gets itself killed in a by getting hit by an ice beam, Ash spends the episode warming it up, and then Charizard remembers Ash saved its life in the first place and started respecting him again
So this whole time Charizard was just a retard who forgot why it's even alive and it had nothing to do with Ash's skills? What the fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 07:07:35 No.47054306 Report

Quoted By: >>47055609

>>47048957
That ref just hated Ash for being like 20 minutes late to the match.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 07:08:42 No.47054309 Report

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>>47049191
Anon, Magmar could heat the temperature to the point electricity fucking stopped working, and nearly sent Pikachu into the lava to its death. Pikachu didn't do, and wouldn't do, jack shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 07:09:45 No.47054311 Report

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>>47053998
Being a shitty bootleg version of a shitty character is pretty pathetic, yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 07:18:33 No.47054338 Report

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>>47047808
If Charizard wouldn't have been an asshole the show would have been better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 07:57:47 No.47054476 Report

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>>47047808
how so? charizard was his last pokemon used in the league, if he didn't have it he would have lost to ritchie even sooner

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 08:28:59 No.47054561 Report

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>>47051547
Is this real? (I haven't made it past Gen 4 in the anime yet). Surely that wouldn't make it past the censor for English releases.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 08:36:24 No.47054578 Report

Quoted By: >>47055404

I like the theory that Charmander was disobedient because Ash wasn't its OT and didn't believe Ash legitimately earned his badges.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 08:38:47 No.47054587 Report

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>>47054282
And pokefuckers say that pokemon are smart

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 12:14:37 No.47055404 Report

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>>47054578
>Ash is not OT, Charmander gains exp faster
>underlying mental issues regarding abandonment
>gains an absolute shit ton of exp against dozens of Exeggutor
>evolves
>moody teenager phase, species is competitive by nature
>first thing Ash does is tell him to deliberately lose against a Paras whom he's got a 4x advantage over. Fuck that.
>witnesses Ash's constant retardation and all the pity badges he gets
>evolves again

I don't think its any wonder Charizard didn't respect Ash

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 12:19:33 No.47055422 Report

Quoted By: >>47055654

>>47054282
I don't think Charizard forgot. Charizard probably considers them even when he saved Ash's life from Aerodactyl. And Charizard has witnessed Ash's retardation for a long time.

Imagine if some moron you can't stand saved your life. A few months later, you save his life in return. Great, you're even. But now, for circumstances beyond your control, you have to travel everywhere with this asshole. Are you going to force yourself to be fond of him just because he saved your life once upon a time?

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 12:56:37 No.47055590 Report

Quoted By: >>47056247

>>47047808
If Ash had one single brain cell he would have yelled "Charizard! Use Rest!" and wouldn't have been disqualified.
Ritchie's Pikachu would have eventually pissed Charizard off and he would have won the battle.
Charizard doesn't obey Ash because he's a retarded loser and didn't deserve to win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 12:57:11 No.47055592 Report

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>>47047808
No he couldn't have. Didn't Charizard win him his seventh badge?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 12:58:18 No.47055599 Report

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>>47048415
Butterfree is a pretty good Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 12:59:28 No.47055603 Report

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If he dit it, he wouldn't even been a participant in the league, since Charizard was the only one able to fight Magmar. Not even Squirtle could.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 13:00:24 No.47055609 Report

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>>47048957
It was probably this >>47054306
or specific rules to the indigo league
or early installment weirdness. after all like you said, the nidorino thing was the first scene.
personally, I think it was because Charizard was ash's last monster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 13:04:11 No.47055631 Report

Quoted By: >>47055683

>>47051245
And rightfully so, since Charizard had been abused, neglected and ultimately abandoned for being "weak". It was probably like
>what the fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 13:07:40 No.47055654 Report

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>>47055422
Charmander was a fat ugly bitch you married and was submissive to you as thanks. Evolution were this fat ugly bitch after lipo, diet and face surgery you paid, and feel superior than you now. Charizard is after cheating so many times she realizes that all the cock are superficial and you loved her ugly so she decided to retribute and be thankful (and only cheat on your back so you don't dump her when get old and fat again).

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 13:07:58 No.47055655 Report

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>>47047808
He had a perfectly good Kum, Krab and literally my mom's bull cock he could've had on hand instead. There was literally no reason to have Charizard's pokeball with him. Nobody to blame but himself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 13:09:58 No.47055665 Report

Quoted By: >>47055704

Ash vs Richie is more brutal in Electric Tale of Pikachu.

I like it better since Ash's Charizard isn't Damian's, but some random Charizard he caught as a Charmander and raised into a Charizard. Electric Tale Ash specifically wanted to use it as a secret weapon, but he had an issue that Charizard wouldn't listen to him because it wasn't tame yet. When Misty sees it, she points out Charizard as a species are moody and difficult to control. Ash gets around this with a special tool for hypnotizing Fire Pokemon into obedience, but its expensive and and runs out of fuel quickly.

By the time his match with Richie comes around, he sends out his Charizard and Richie sends one out too. Ash's Charizard mauls Richie's completely on instinct and the fight gets so bad, Ash forfeits to keep his Charizard from killing Richie's. Then he hides in the hallway and chastises himself for being desperate enough to send out an untrained Charizard. It's a pretty good chapter and the shots of the two Charizards facing each other down are cool. In general I liked how Charizard was drawn in ETOP.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 13:11:27 No.47055675 Report

Quoted By: >>47055686

Maybe it's quitter talk but it really is odd Ash was happy to set his pokemon free or at least have them out of his hands so often and yet kept charizard around rather then going hey my asshole dragon is acting like a jerk and doesn't seem to like me (anymore) so I guess I'll just set him free or something and swap in another pal.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 13:12:55 No.47055683 Report

Quoted By: >>47055691

>>47055631
He already had issues, and this probably made him think ash was just another moron like his old trainer. But after months of disobedience, Charizard were always on his belt, never got boxed even once, he realized that this kid wouldn't stop believing in him, even being a retard.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 13:13:32 No.47055686 Report

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>>47055675
It's because he's a 10 year old kid, Charizard is cool as shit, and it didn't used to act like that. The factors leading to it being a jerk are things that can be worked past with enough time and effort, so he wanted to do that. It wasn't that Charizard was impossible to tame, he just wasn't good enough to do it until later.

Just the fact Charizard started listening to him later proves Ash was right for keeping it, idk what the issue is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 13:14:59 No.47055691 Report

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>>47055683
The real rub of the Richie fight is that Charizard fell asleep right as Sparky was about to attack, and Ash still got disqualified, even though, had Sparky followed through with this attack, Charizard would have fucking killed it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 13:18:49 No.47055704 Report

Quoted By: >>47056174

>>47055665
>Forfeit
Couldn't him just put it back in the ball?

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 13:26:29 No.47055741 Report

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>>47047808
NOOOO DONT KILL THE HECKIN CHARMANDERINO

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 15:01:33 No.47056174 Report

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>>47055704
That's forfeiting.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 15:11:57 No.47056247 Report

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>>47055590
Misty and Brock would have shit on him for saying that because Charizard didn't know Rest and that would have been even worse.

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