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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 16:33:39 No.47056971 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>47056999 >>47059414 >>47060471 >>47060477

*has 100% usage in two generations back to back*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 16:38:28 No.47056999 Report

Quoted By: >>47057032

>>47056971
I HATE THIS FAT AUTISTIC FAT CUNT RETARD NIGGER FUCK YOU OP FOR BRINGING IT UP FUCK YOU RETARD FUCKFUCKFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! NIGGER BIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 16:44:34 No.47057032 Report

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>>47056999
Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 20:12:35 No.47059014 Report

Quoted By: >>47059102 >>47059205 >>47060840

How is that possible? Is it just 99,5% rounded up or what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 20:22:41 No.47059102 Report

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>>47059014
It's just that good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 20:36:43 No.47059205 Report

Quoted By: >>47059222

>>47059014
It doesn't have 100% usage, but it is in 100% of matches. GSC Snorlax has a bit over 97% usage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 20:38:54 No.47059222 Report

Quoted By: >>47059239

>>47059205
Machamp and Golem featured a lot as countering against it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 20:40:52 No.47059239 Report

Quoted By: >>47059250

>>47059222
Skarmory was the best counter iirc

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 20:42:15 No.47059250 Report

Quoted By: >>47059262 >>47060451

>>47059239
was that a hazer or whilewind?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 20:43:42 No.47059262 Report

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>>47059250
Pretty sure Skarmory doesn't get Haze.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 21:02:20 No.47059414 Report

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>>47056971
*OP stares at smogon pages instead of playing the game in eight generations back to back*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 23:23:35 No.47060451 Report

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>>47059250
Whirlwind.
Plus resisting Body Slam and immunity to Earthquake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 23:27:43 No.47060471 Report

Quoted By: >>47060500 >>47060639 >>47060828

>>47056971
Snorlax unironically should have been banned in Gen 2. The entire metagame revolves around it.
>but then Raikou would be broke!
so ban Raikou. It's always stated in Smogon forums to not let "broken be checked by broken" so why is that Gen 2 is allowed to get away with it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 23:28:48 No.47060477 Report

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>>47056971
less options and nonsensical Gen 1-3 battle mechanics.
>Crit is based on speed
>All Ghost moves are Physical
etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 23:32:32 No.47060500 Report

Quoted By: >>47060639 >>47060869

>>47060471
At this point not enough people give a shit. As much as people wax on about the good old days, you should largely just assume they mean Gens 3 and 4 when they do, because the first tow gens are ghost towns in terms of activity for a reason-they're unbalanced and janky as fuck, even more so than later gens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 23:55:55 No.47060639 Report

Quoted By: >>47060681 >>47060692 >>47060797 >>47060828

>>47060471
Do that and then Zapdos is broken. Ban him and Vaporeon + Suicune are broken. It's a slippery slope that just gets worse because Gen 2 OU is unbalanced enough that banning a mon fixes nothing.

>>47060500
I hate when dubs get wasted on shitty posts. Gen I has a large community that's still growing. It just got lower tiers supported now, and Gen II has renewed interest due to its lower tier projects.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 00:01:32 No.47060681 Report

Quoted By: >>47060692 >>47060739

>>47060639
>Gen I has a large community that's still growing
>minutes between queeing on ladder and an actual match, wait got as long as 10 for me just a week ago
>forum discussion for Gen 1 specifically is slower than any other bar meme formats like CAP (though Ruins of Alph being a conbination forum might have something to do with it)
What the fuck is this "large community" doing, because they sure as hell aren't talking about to playing Gen 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 00:04:21 No.47060692 Report

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>>47060639
>>47060681
I meant "or playing Gen 1" not to, dunno where that came from

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 00:11:17 No.47060739 Report

Quoted By: >>47060869

>>47060681
>ladder
No one that plays RBY seriously cares about the ladder, it's all about tours.
Smogon's World Cup for RBY OU just had over 100 sign ups.
I usually don't need to wait more than 5 min for a ladder match on weekends, thats decent for an old gen ladder.
>discussion
They're on Discord or other sites. RoA being an aggregate does suck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 00:22:29 No.47060796 Report

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Snorlaxchads can’t stop winning

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 00:22:38 No.47060797 Report

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>>47060639
So "broken checks broken" is actually okay? Got it, let's unban Cinderace, from there we can unban Magearna, Genesect and Zamazenta-C.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 00:29:38 No.47060828 Report

Quoted By: >>47060835

>>47060471
>>47060639
isn't Steelix OU in gen 2 and doesn't he both counter zapdos and raikou?

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Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 00:31:47 No.47060835 Report

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>>47060828
>doesn't he both counter zapdos and raikou?
If they're not running HP Water, yeah.
It deals with Snorlax as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 00:32:54 No.47060840 Report

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>>47059014
>>47059014
Less other Pokemon to choose from.

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Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 00:37:32 No.47060869 Report

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>>47060500
Competitve Pokemon was never good. It's a game for trannies, autists, and people that want to push their peckers into preteen poopyholes.

>>47060739
>over 100 gay pieces of shit want to play a gay piece of shit tier
What is your point, exactly?

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Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 01:07:55 No.47061053 Report

Quoted By: >>47061186 >>47061627

>Gen 2 has a Pokemon with 100% usage
>Is extremely stall-heavy and slow-paced, and is the least popular competitive generation as a result
>Smoggies see no reason to change anything because of stall

>Gen 3 is balanced, fast-paced, skillful, and thought provoking to play
>Gets new innovations in the form of Cacturne, Mr Mime, and Gilgar getting more usage
>REEEEEEEEEE THIS THREATENS STALL BANITBANITBANITBANIT

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 01:24:28 No.47061151 Report

Quoted By: >>47061217

Don't you get tired of being autistic?
Guess not since it gets you replies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 01:29:48 No.47061186 Report

Quoted By: >>47061190 >>47061217

>>47061053
Gen II would still be stall because of how rest works and everything running lefties

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 01:30:35 No.47061190 Report

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>>47061186
then ban lefties and rest???

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 01:34:57 No.47061217 Report

Quoted By: >>47062164

>>47061151
>Point out facts
>Smoggies namecall because they got BTFO

Like clockwork

>>47061186
Less things would run lefties/rest if Snorlax wasn't countering anything offensive

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 01:41:48 No.47061271 Report

Quoted By: >>47061612

>fact
you didn't point out shit, autistic fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 02:24:29 No.47061612 Report

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>>47061271
>Can't do anything but namecall

I accept your concession.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 02:27:47 No.47061627 Report

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>>47061053
>baton pass
>evasion
>threatens stall

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 02:28:09 No.47061629 Report

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calling someone autistic isn't namecalling, especially when they actually are.
you post the same inane shit day in and day out/ I asked you a question and you couldn't even answer it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 03:48:36 No.47062164 Report

Quoted By: >>47062245

>>47061217
>Less things would run lefties
Everything runs lefties in gen 2 because lefties is the only good item for anything that isn't named Marowak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 04:04:37 No.47062245 Report

Quoted By: >>47062371 >>47062374

>>47062164
Maybe this is a brainlet take, but maybe just ban Leftovers then? And let players have to work with what else it available.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 04:28:24 No.47062371 Report

Quoted By: >>47062382

>>47062245
Banning Leftovers is like banning every item, because they're all such shit in GSC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 04:29:26 No.47062374 Report

Quoted By: >>47062382

>>47062245
And banning Leftovers won't stop Sleep Talk being able to call Rest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 04:31:44 No.47062382 Report

Quoted By: >>47062395

>>47062371
Sure, but if anything, to me that says that that mechanic just isn't worth considering at that level of play.
>>47062374
Yeah that one is a bitch. Banning Sleep Talk doesn't really feel like the right move either, since some mons rely on it to be usable at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 04:34:02 No.47062395 Report

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>>47062382
Keep the game as it is. There's no reason to fuck with rulesets for a 22 years later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 04:34:39 No.47062398 Report

Quoted By: >>47062406

I have the solution. Just ban all 'mons from all gens in all tiers except Magikarp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 04:35:24 No.47062406 Report

Quoted By: >>47062420

>>47062398
This wasn't clever, funny, or worthy of posting. At the very least, save dumb shit like this until the thread needs bumping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 04:37:55 No.47062420 Report

Quoted By: >>47062424 >>47064273

>>47062406
More worthy of posting than arguing balance in an inherently unbalanced game where you have to ban half the shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 04:38:28 No.47062424 Report

Quoted By: >>47063123

>>47062420
>have to ban half the shit.
I love hyperbole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 07:52:07 No.47063123 Report

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>>47062424
Is it really hyperbole, though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 13:14:08 No.47064273 Report

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>>47062420
Smogon is just the product of stockholm syndrome.
Trying to fix Pokemon's balance instead of moving onto a better game (or making a better game) is a futile effort.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 13:16:56 No.47064286 Report

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Comp cringe thread?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 13:23:40 No.47064316 Report

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Based fatass

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