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Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 00:14:31 No.47138181 View View Reply Original Report

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why are elemental punches not used as much in competitive as coverage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 00:15:14 No.47138185 Report

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>>47138181
They're too weak. 75 BP isn't strong enough by modern standards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 00:15:43 No.47138190 Report

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>>47138181
75 BP is mediocre, you're better off using a weaker move with priority or a more powerful but less accurate move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 00:17:26 No.47138198 Report

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>>47138181
Unless you're hitting for 4x weakness and have something like Iron Fist, it's not usually worth it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 02:43:33 No.47139180 Report

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>>47138181
They're not very good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 02:49:58 No.47139234 Report

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>>47138181
They are used occasionally, mostly ice and electric since they have good synergy with fighting types and help them hit stuff like lando or pex

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Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 02:54:39 No.47139267 Report

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>>47138181
I run Ice Punch on Metagross and Swampert, but it's pretty common

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 02:58:02 No.47139296 Report

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incoming anti-splitfag in 3... 2...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:16:47 No.47139463 Report

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>>47138181
>April moveset usage stats from +1500 OU

Melmetal
Thunder Punch 66.622%
Ice Punch 61.071%

Dragonite
Fire Punch 12.970%
Ice Punch 10.726%
Thunder Punch 2.255%

Tyranitar
Fire Punch 16.415%
Ice Punch 12.502%
Thunder Punch 1.942%

Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
Thunder Punch 17.295%
Ice Punch 10.486%

Swampert
Ice Punch 12.766%

Hawlucha
Thunder Punch 4.859%
Fire Punch 2.194%

Also some pokemon that are not OU by usage like blaziken or conkeldurr often use some elemental punches
>inb4 vgc
Metagross and tyranitar are the only ones i can think of

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:17:25 No.47139470 Report

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>>47138181
because gen 4 fucked the game up with its retarded power creep and meme split. The elemental punches are fine in gen 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:27:00 No.47139524 Report

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>>47139296
>>47139470

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:55:49 No.47139683 Report

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>>47139470
antisplitfags are the flat-earthers of the pokemon community

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 04:23:33 No.47139802 Report

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Power Creep has rendered any and all moves with less than 90 BP useless unless they have an amazing secondary ability like Health Steal, Priority, Flinch chance, or stat drop

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 04:30:54 No.47139830 Report

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>>47139683
they're all concern trolling. most flat earthers at least actually believe in their delusions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 04:34:40 No.47139842 Report

Quoted By: >>47139848 >>47140646

Would a buff to 90BP be too much?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 04:36:05 No.47139848 Report

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>>47139842
Yes it would, too many things get the elemental punches for their BP to be that high.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 08:05:32 No.47140646 Report

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>>47139842
Yes.
Make it 85.

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