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Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 19:55:06 No.47152219 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>47152627 >>47153956 >>47154167 >>47154218 >>47154475 >>47154588 >>47154593 >>47154640 >>47158086 >>47158139 >>47159940

>cant use the same folklore inspiration
>cant use the same animal group
>cant use the same type (combo)
>cant use the same distribution location (caves, water)
>cant use the same evolution method
>cant have the same amount of evo stages
>cant have the same design process (element + animal)
Why are genwarfags so gay?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 20:46:53 No.47152627 Report

Quoted By: >>47152632 >>47152636 >>47153570 >>47153648 >>47153661 >>47153941 >>47154179 >>47154593

>>47152219
Why does nobody talk about Gen 3 doing the same thing?
Gardevoir (Alakazam), Slaking (Snorlax), Breloom (Parasect), Delcatty (Persian), Swalot (Muk), Zangoose/Seviper (Sandslash/Arbok), Crawdaunt (Kingler), Milotic (Gyarados), Castform (Ditto), Walrein (Dewgong)

Having constantly repeating patterns and twists on old traditions/archetypes has always been a Pokemon thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 20:47:39 No.47152632 Report

Quoted By: >>47154179

>>47152627
It's an RPG thing in general

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 20:48:12 No.47152636 Report

Quoted By: >>47152647 >>47152655

>>47152627
none of those pokemon are based on the same thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 20:49:30 No.47152647 Report

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>>47152636
Most of the examples in the OP aren't either

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 20:50:33 No.47152655 Report

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>>47152636
swalot is literally a vorefag muk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 23:09:20 No.47153570 Report

Quoted By: >>47153599

>>47152627
Gen 3 doesnt have a yawnfag (mostly)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 23:12:09 No.47153599 Report

Quoted By: >>47153635 >>47153672 >>47154041

>>47153570
There is an OG master Yawnfag (Who has never played Pokemon and doesnt even like it and just does basic research to post baits)
An underage Yawnfag who hates gen 5 and loves gen 6
A schizo Yawnfag that hates Gen 2 and falseflags as a typhlosionfag
And a recent new Yawnfag thats starting to shitpost about gen 3

Everyone else is either small time or shitty copycats

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 23:16:12 No.47153635 Report

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>>47153599
Who is the platinum playthrough shitposter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 23:18:06 No.47153648 Report

Quoted By: >>47158707

>>47152627
Because gen 3 designs were different enough that the similarities didn't twing the same way. the gen 5 vs gen 1 designs are blatant

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 23:19:55 No.47153661 Report

Quoted By: >>47153774 >>47153837 >>47154802

>>47152627
>Slaking (Snorlax)
One is a 3 stage evo and the other has a crossgen pre evo. Not to mention one is a gorilla-sloth hybrid and the other is a bear-cat hybrid.
>Breloom (Parasect)
What kind of retarded cope is this? Breloom is a boxing mushroom dinosaur-like mon and Parasect is a bug that's been taken over by fungus. Meanwhile, Crustle is just Parasect but with a boulder instead of a mushroom designwise
>Delcatty (Persian)
Every region has a regional cat.
>Zangoose/Seviper (Sandslash/Arbok)
Sandslash and Arbok have no connections whatsoever. Zangoose is a mongoose and Sandshrew is a shrew.
>Milotic (Gyarados)
It's more like a feminine regional counterpart of Gyarados rather than a fullon ripoff like 70% of the unova dex
>Castform (Ditto)
???

Unovabortions are braindead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 23:21:21 No.47153672 Report

Quoted By: >>47159937

>>47153599
>needs to name anyone who says something bad about a gen they like a yawnfag
I think I know who the real schizo is here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 23:23:02 No.47153684 Report

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I think part of yawnfag's motivation is a seething hatred of the US and Americans and he can't separate a fantasy land depiction from the real thing in his head.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 23:32:16 No.47153774 Report

Quoted By: >>47153881

>>47153661
>Slaking (Snorlax)
Mono Normal, huge but lazy
>>Breloom (Parasect)
Mushroom Pokemon
>Zangoose/Seviper (Sandslash/Arbok)
Poison snakes with a version counterpart that is a mammal with sharp claws
>Castform (Ditto)
Mono Normal blob that shapeshifts

If any of those were in Unova you'd be bitching that they were a knock-off. They all have more in common than retarded shit like Poliwrath/Seismitoad or Rapidash/Zebstrika

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 23:40:07 No.47153837 Report

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>>47153661
>Breloom (Parasect)
Earlygame mushrooms who evolve only 1 level apart.

> Every region has a regional cat.
Not until gen 3. Gen 2 had Sneasel who was an endgame encounter and not entirely a cat, and Espeon who evolved from the ambiguous Eevee. Two incidental cats compared to Skitty/Delcatty which is explicit a 2-stage normal cat line like Meowth.
> Sandslash and Arbok have no connections whatsoever
Version counterparts based around a venomous snake and a clawed mammal. It’s pretty easy to see.
> It's more like a feminine regional counterpart of Gyarados
Reaching. You could say just as easily that Gigalith is the regional counterpart to Golem, Conk is the regional counterpart to Machamp, Ernie/Bert are counterpart to hitmons etc. and they’d all be just as correct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 23:45:01 No.47153881 Report

Quoted By: >>47153953

>>47153774
Slaking is also part of an evolutionary line. Breloom is Grass/Fighting and an actual mushroom Pokémon. Parasect is the spores taking control of the Pokémon. Zangoose/Seviper is a first for an actual Pokémon rivalry in lore outside the anime. Castform is completely different from Ditto, Castform changes type according to the weather and Ditto actually transforms into other Pokémon. I know you're insecure about Gen 5 just rehashing old ideas, but try a little harder next time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 23:51:47 No.47153941 Report

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>>47152627
>Gardevoir
The only thing it shares with Alakazam is that its a 3 stage Psychic type. Compare that with Machamp and Conkeldurr both being 3 stage trade evolution Fighting types with high attack stats and low speed and both being based on strongmen.
>Swalot
Swalot is based on the concept of digestion and stomach acid. Muk is just toxic ooze.
>Crawdaunt
This is nothing like Kingler and you're an actual retard for thinking it has any similarities outside of being a Water type.
>Milotic
Milotic is based on a Ningyo which is the Japanese equivalent to a mermaid but they're much more fish like. Literally fish people. Gyarados is a typical sea serpent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 23:52:25 No.47153953 Report

Quoted By: >>47154030

>>47153881
>Slaking is also part of an evolutionary line
So if it has a different number of evolutions, it's not a knock-off? Better knock Swoobat off the OP pic then

> Breloom is Grass/Fighting
So if it's a different typing, it's not a knock-off either?
There goes Zebstrika, Gigalith, Seismitoad, Leavanny, Crustle, Swanna, Amoongus, Frillish, Hydreigon and Vullaby too

> Castform is completely different from Ditto
So if it's the same typing, but the concept behind it is different, that makes it not a knock-off?
That drops Musharna, Scolipede and Conkeldurr too

That leaves Audino, Garbodor, Sawk/Throh and Boufallant. Which are the ones nobody disputes are Kanto clones. Thanks for clearing that up anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 23:52:46 No.47153956 Report

Quoted By: >>47153967

>>47152219
god damn that picture is a fucking MOG. the only one where you can even argue the soulless gen is better is the Vullaby line over the Spearow one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 23:53:48 No.47153967 Report

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>>47153956
>Old IP

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Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 23:59:44 No.47154030 Report

Quoted By: >>47154052 >>47154153

>>47153953
How about you actually argue against my entire points instead of cherry picking?
So if it's a different typing, it's not a knock-off either?
There goes Zebstrika, Gigalith, Seismitoad, Leavanny, Crustle, Swanna, Amoongus, Frillish, Hydreigon and Vullaby too
Breloom is a completely different concept from Parasect. Breloom is an actual mushroom Pokémon, Parasect is a Pokémon that's been taken over by fungus. The reason people say Crustle is a knock off is because it's basically Parasect but with a rock on its back instead of a mushroom. Zebstrika is seen as a knock off of Rapidash because it's a lightning zebra, and Rapidash is a fire horse. That's pretty much the exact same concept just with a different type.
So if it has a different number of evolutions, it's not a knock-off? Better knock Swoobat off the OP pic then
Woobat and Swoobat are bats that are onlly there to infest caves like Zubat and Golbat, which were initially a two stage line as well.
>>47153953
>So if it's the same typing, but the concept behind it is different, that makes it not a knock-off?
>That drops Musharna, Scolipede and Conkeldurr too
Munna and Musharna are just recycled Drowzee. They're tapir like creatures that eat dreams just like Drowzee. Oh and they're Psychic types as well. All three are based on the baku, a tapir-like yokai that eats dreams. Conkeldurr is also just recycled Machamp. It's a three stage trade evo fighting type with high attack and low speed based off of a strongman/lifter concept.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:00:56 No.47154041 Report

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>>47153599
>And a recent new Yawnfag thats starting to shitpost about gen 3
everyone shitposts about gen 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:01:01 No.47154043 Report

Quoted By: >>47154115

Meant to be this"
How about you actually argue against my entire points instead of cherry picking?
>So if it's a different typing, it's not a knock-off either?
>There goes Zebstrika, Gigalith, Seismitoad, Leavanny, Crustle, Swanna, Amoongus, Frillish, Hydreigon and Vullaby too
Breloom is a completely different concept from Parasect. Breloom is an actual mushroom Pokémon, Parasect is a Pokémon that's been taken over by fungus. The reason people say Crustle is a knock off is because it's basically Parasect but with a rock on its back instead of a mushroom. Zebstrika is seen as a knock off of Rapidash because it's a lightning zebra, and Rapidash is a fire horse. That's pretty much the exact same concept just with a different type.
>So if it has a different number of evolutions, it's not a knock-off? Better knock Swoobat off the OP pic then
Woobat and Swoobat are bats that are only there to infest caves like Zubat and Golbat, which were initially a two stage line as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:01:57 No.47154052 Report

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>>47154030
>The reason people say Crustle is a knock off is because it's basically Parasect but with a rock on its back instead of a mushroom
No it's not. Crustle is a hermit crab and Parasect is a cicada that's enslaved by a mushroom. They have about as much in common as a mushroom kangaroo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:06:29 No.47154106 Report

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The funny thing is that his crusade against Gen 5 is just going to harden its fans and make them more vocal, rather than browbeat people into agreeing with him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:07:10 No.47154115 Report

Quoted By: >>47154212 >>47154237

>>47154043
>Breloom is a completely different concept from Parasect
So is Crustle

>Rapidash because it's a lightning zebra, and Rapidash is a fire horse. That's pretty much the exact same concept just with a different type.
>Woobat and Swoobat are bats that are only there to infest caves
You are aware that zebras are real animals that aren't horses, right? And that there are multiple species of bat in the world?
How many fucking mono-Water fish Pokemon were added in Gens 2-4 that you didn't bitch about, but one Pokemon based on an entirely different species that doesn't even share a typing is apparently a knock-off?

Why do you apply such ridiculously high standards for uniqueness onto Unova Pokemon that are completely inconsistent with the standards you put on every other Gen?
We've already established that different typing, different design concepts, different evolution stages/methods apparently all aren't enough to make a Pokemon unique enough in your eyes, so what the fuck CAN a Pokemon be to make it not a knock-off?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:11:10 No.47154153 Report

Quoted By: >>47154212

>>47154030
>crabs and hermit crabs are totally the same thing
>but crabs and lobster are totally differents
that’s enough posting for today yawnfag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:12:43 No.47154167 Report

Quoted By: >>47154184

>>47152219
Gen 5 is the downfall of pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:14:28 No.47154179 Report

Quoted By: >>47154220

>>47152627
>>47152632
based and truthpilled

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:14:47 No.47154184 Report

Quoted By: >>47154195

>>47154167
nah, it’s just the natural continuation of gen 4, the start of the zoomer infestation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:15:54 No.47154195 Report

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>>47154184
>infestation
>young people get older and new young people are born to replace them
how does this concept make you seethe so much lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:16:54 No.47154212 Report

Quoted By: >>47154281 >>47154309

>>47154153
>>but crabs and lobster are totally differents
Actually yeah, there's a much bigger difference between a crab and a lobster in terms of looks than a crab and hermit crab. And you're completely ignoring that Parasect and Crustle are hermit crab -like insects with another object as a shell. For Parasect it's the fungus that controls it, but for Crustle it's a boulder.
>>47154115
>So is Crustle
It really isn't. It's just a crab like insect with a rock on it instead of a mushroom. Breloom is an actual mushroom Pokémon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:18:24 No.47154218 Report

Quoted By: >>47154292 >>47155135 >>47156498 >>47156600 >>47157248 >>47160264

>>47152219
Since retards can't understand why people see the Unova Pokémon that are the same concept as the Kanto mons and serve to replace them as rip offs, here's an image explaining it. I also took out the "knock off" Pokémon that aren't actually knock offs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:18:39 No.47154220 Report

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>>47154179
Shit, similar species and convergent evolution in different parts of the world are an irl thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:20:13 No.47154237 Report

Quoted By: >>47154267

>>47154115
>You are aware that zebras are real animals that aren't horses, right?
This is true but they're close enough, like how a domestic dog isn't a wolf but is closely related.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:23:35 No.47154267 Report

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>>47154237
I guess Slurpuff is just a Growlithe clone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:25:11 No.47154281 Report

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>>47154212
>Cicadas are a hermit crab like insect
Nincada is a Paras clone btw. Unlike your constant reductionist attempts on biodiversity, those two are literally the exact same animal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:26:20 No.47154292 Report

Quoted By: >>47154314

>>47154218
All you needed was the bottom line. People mad at their owd bwos being semi-replaced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:27:47 No.47154309 Report

Quoted By: >>47154331 >>47154350

>>47154212
I can't take anything you say seriously as long as you continue to insist that a zebra and a horse are the same thing, but a mushroom and a mushroom are different things
Why do you choose to die on this hill?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:28:13 No.47154314 Report

Quoted By: >>47154339

>>47154292
Nah, retards would keep denying everything without detailed explanation. I don't even mind that a ton of Unova Pokémon are rehashes, I'm mad we're pretending they're not just reskinned Kantomons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:29:42 No.47154331 Report

Quoted By: >>47154357

>>47154309
Paras and Parasect aren't mushrooms. They're insects being controlled by a fungus. Breloom is an actual mushroom. It's really not that hard to wrap your head around, but I get the feeling you rode the short bus today.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:30:27 No.47154339 Report

Quoted By: >>47154565

>>47154314
>I don't know what a reskin is
Even if we ignore learnsets there's BSTs and typings for some of the ones you cry about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:31:36 No.47154350 Report

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>>47154309
It gets him (You)s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:32:02 No.47154357 Report

Quoted By: >>47154565

>>47154331
>'The Mushroom Pokemon' isn't a mushroom

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:47:45 No.47154475 Report

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>>47152219
Honestly surprised that whoever made the pic didn’t include Zoroa, Patrat, Purrloin and Pidove lines as clones of the Vulpix, Rattata, Meowth and Pidgey lines since they are reaching so much. Makes more sense Vullaby and Spearow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:57:29 No.47154557 Report

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just dropping in to say some unova pokemon occupy the same niche as Kanto pokemon and there's nothing wrong with that. what is the point of playing new games if it's just going to be Geodude and Zubat forever?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 00:58:51 No.47154565 Report

Quoted By: >>47154758

>>47154339
Ken and Ryu play differently in Street Fighter games since at least SSFII Turbo but that doesn't stop people from calling Ken a palette swap/clone does it?
>>47154357
Same way the Fire mouse Pokémon looks like an echidna, and Sandshrew and Pikachu, the "mosue Pokémon" are based on rodent looking animals that aren't rodents. A pika is a lagomorph.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 01:01:31 No.47154588 Report

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>>47152219
>anthropomorphic yellow tapir holding a pendulum vs round pink floating tapir with mist coming out of its head
>horse on fire vs electric zebra with spikes
>four armed generic rock monster turns into a turtle vs crystal rock monsters
>i'll give you that one but bat enemies in caves is a pretty common trope in videogames
>same thing with cleric exp piñatas
>four armed dinosaurian bodybuilder wrestler vs construction worker clowns
>how else are you supposed to draw a frog's metamorphosis?
>alright
>butterfly vs leaf bug
>wasp vs centipede
>cicada that becomes a zombie due to the mushroom on its back controlling its mind vs hermit crab that lives inside a rock
>water pollution vs land pollution
>kappa duck with psychic powers and enormous claws vs regular swan with blue feathers representing a ballerina's outfit
>item mimics are a common RPG trope
>literally the only similarity between those two is that they're based on the same animal
>every gen has a pseudo legendary
>regular bull with three tails and fast sweeper stars vs bison with 70s/80s disco afro and slow tank stats
>normal/flying sparrowhawk that evolves into a stork, is found in the early game, and has glass cannon stats and moves vs dark/flying vultures that are found in the late game, and have wall stats and moves
Weak b8

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 01:02:17 No.47154593 Report

Quoted By: >>47154606

>>47152219
>>47152627
It was soulless when gen 3 did it and it's even more soulless for gen 5 because now it's the third time they've aped the superior Kanto designs. That's why nobody takes darkagefags seriously. They're living in an illusion where their games are totally flawless and don't feel like Chinese bootlegs of gen 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 01:03:35 No.47154606 Report

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>>47154593
>superior Kanto
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 01:08:01 No.47154640 Report

Quoted By: >>47154856

>>47152219
Gen 5 improved on so many concepts from gen 1. Cope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 01:20:27 No.47154758 Report

Quoted By: >>47155077

>>47154565
Yes, but Parasect IS a mushroom

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 01:25:13 No.47154802 Report

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>>47153661
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 01:31:59 No.47154856 Report

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>>47154640
but gen 3 did the same but different. Arrest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 01:54:21 No.47155077 Report

Quoted By: >>47155110

>>47154758
No it isn't. It's an insect that's being controlled by a parasitic mushroom.
>A host-parasite pair in which the parasite mushroom has taken over the host bug. Prefers damp places.
>The bug host is drained of energy by the mushrooms on its back. They appear to do all the thinking.
>The bug host is controlled by the mushrooms that scatter poisonous spores. The spores are sometimes used as medicine in China.
>When nothing's left to extract from the bug, the mushrooms on its back leave spores on the bug's egg.

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 01:57:23 No.47155110 Report

Quoted By: >>47155230

>>47155077
>IT'S NOT A MUSHROOM CONTROLLING AN INSECT, IT'S AN INSECT BEING CONTROLLED BY A MUSHROOM

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 01:59:59 No.47155135 Report

Quoted By: >>47155230

>>47154218
>zubat
>2 stage line
(you)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 02:10:43 No.47155230 Report

Quoted By: >>47155263 >>47155271

>>47155135
At the time of introduction it was absolutely a 2 stage line, and there are 2 Pokémon from Kanto in the line.
>>47155110
The physical Pokémon as in the body is the insect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 02:14:45 No.47155263 Report

Quoted By: >>47155347

>>47155230
>At the time of introduction it was absolutely a 2 stage line, and there are 2 Pokémon from Kanto in the line.
weird how this goes out the window when people try to claim Klinklang is a Magnemite clone

>The physical Pokémon as in the body is the insect.
The mushroom is the part in control though, it's the part with the agency that does the 'thinking'.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 02:15:23 No.47155271 Report

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>>47155230
>d-dosent count because muh headcanon
go to sleep anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 02:27:19 No.47155347 Report

Quoted By: >>47155413

>>47155263
I've always wondered how weird that is. Like your Paras friend dies when it evolves into Parasect, and is the mushroom intelligent enough to develop a bond of friendship?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 02:36:26 No.47155413 Report

Quoted By: >>47155435 >>47158105

>>47155347
I assume the modern kid-friendly canon is that it's a symbiotic relationship

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 02:39:04 No.47155435 Report

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>>47155413
Modern kid friendly can suck it, go hardcore RB with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 05:39:11 No.47156498 Report

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>>47154218
>hermit crabs are insects
classic genwars idiocy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 05:57:55 No.47156600 Report

Quoted By: >>47158098

>>47154218
Yeah these are all valid (bar Dwebble/Crustle which will always be a reach) but even if you got rid of all of these Unova still has more new mons than any other region but Kanto, and half of them play differently to the point where it doesn't really matter if they're based off Kanto mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 09:12:05 No.47157248 Report

Quoted By: >>47158761

>>47154218
>Zebras = Unicorns
>BATS LIVE IN CAVES I'M GOING INSAAAANE
>Parasitic fungus on a Cicada = Hermit Crab with rock shell
>Glass Cannon exploding mimics = bulky supportmon poison mushrooms
>WTF WHY IS A WATER-DWELLING FROG A WATER TYPE? WHY IS IT'S BABY STAGE A TADPOLE I'M GOING INSAAANE AAAAH
are you actually retarded?

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 11:25:53 No.47157860 Report

Quoted By: >>47157879

OP is an idiot but he absolutely has a point with the Zubat/Swoobat lines. You'd have to be a bigger idiot to deny it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 11:29:19 No.47157879 Report

Quoted By: >>47159909 >>47160293

>>47157860
Is noibat also a zubat clone, retard? OP is right. Theyre all different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 12:20:49 No.47158086 Report

Quoted By: >>47158097

>>47152219
Funny how in this picture with the exception of garbodor and swanna all the unova designs are superior to kanto ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 12:23:30 No.47158097 Report

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>>47158086
>garbodor is worse than a generic toriyama eyes angry blob that evolves from a goofy blob
You were so close. Swanna is garbage though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 12:23:32 No.47158098 Report

Quoted By: >>47159923 >>47160112

>>47156600
Listen little negro, anyone can make these lists with any two fucking regions. Just because you have droves dedicated to Unova slander to do it more doesn't mean your lite circlejerking of regurgitated false points becomes fact.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 12:24:40 No.47158105 Report

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>>47155413
>I assume the modern kid-friendly canon
Here, have some modern PMD remake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 12:30:52 No.47158130 Report

Quoted By: >>47158155

what other cross-gen clones/counterpart pokemon are there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 12:32:15 No.47158139 Report

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>>47152219
>uses all gen 5 sprites
yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 12:33:38 No.47158155 Report

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>>47158130
none, because /vp/'s retarded standard for what a clone is always changes, seemingly only to be against unova

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 14:14:00 No.47158707 Report

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>>47153648
The only 'blatant' ones are Swoobat, Throh, Sawk, and Boufflant.
Everything is different enough to be unique.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 14:20:50 No.47158761 Report

Quoted By: >>47158777

>>47157248
Not that guy but you're just oozing cope right now. You're honestly defending a cash grab by a company which ran out of ideas back in 2004.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 14:23:55 No.47158777 Report

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>>47158761
not him either, but the only cope is faggots who cannot stand the concept of unova being liked

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 16:59:56 No.47159909 Report

Quoted By: >>47159997

>>47157879
Fuck, by OP I meant the yawnfag but the point still stands. It wasn't necessary for Woobat to not have visible eyes but they totally did it to make it more like Zubat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:01:45 No.47159923 Report

Quoted By: >>47159953

>>47158098
>droves dedicated to Unova slander
Delusional. There might be a dedicated shitposter but Unova gets compared the most for reasons that are obvious to everyone else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:03:26 No.47159937 Report

Quoted By:

>>47153672
hi, which yawnfag are you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:03:50 No.47159940 Report

Quoted By:

>>47152219
Fusions anyone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:06:07 No.47159953 Report

Quoted By: >>47160016

>>47159923
>Unova gets compared the most for reasons that are obvious
>misses the fucking point of the post she replied to

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:13:05 No.47159997 Report

Quoted By: >>47160065

>>47159909
Are you fucking kidding, woobat is a flying ball of fluff, eyes would look bad on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:17:41 No.47160016 Report

Quoted By: >>47160022 >>47160054

>>47159953
You are the one missing the point, idiot. All generations have expies but Gen 5 is specially notable for it. It's like the level curve and distribution in Johto or the water and trumpets in Hoenn or the speed and HMs in Sinnoh. It's a simple observation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:18:39 No.47160022 Report

Quoted By: >>47160179

>>47160016
It's like 4 Pokemon out of the largest dex ever added by a mainline game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:22:33 No.47160054 Report

Quoted By: >>47160179

>>47160016
>All generations have expies but Gen 5 is specially notable for it.
The only thing notable is how much you negroes have to bend over backwards to somehow prove that it has more clones than other regions. It's a straight-up lie, schizo. Cope harder.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:24:09 No.47160065 Report

Quoted By: >>47160106

>>47159997
Not necessarily. Besides, I'm sure the fluff was added to make them "blind", not the other way around. I don't understand why it's supposed to be a bad thing either, Alomomola was meant to be a Luvdic evolution according to promotional material and the goth line was obviously inspired by the Ralts line yet I don't see anyone getting their panties in a twist over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:28:41 No.47160106 Report

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>>47160065
I need eyes as SOMEWHERE to insert my penis!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:29:14 No.47160112 Report

Quoted By: >>47160137

>>47158098
Unova is my favorite region retard and I said it doesn't even matter if they're inspired by Kanto mons because most of them are totally different in every aspect but the visual concept. Learn to read before throwing a bitchfit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:32:53 No.47160137 Report

Quoted By: >>47160233

>>47160112
>learn to read
>fails to read
you responded to a post talking about how the "knockoffs" aren't actually knockoffs. Are you actually going to respond normally?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:39:00 No.47160179 Report

Quoted By: >>47160188 >>47160204 >>47160319

>>47160022
>like 4 Pokemon
Maybe if they came out in different generations but context is important. It's not just about having similar designs or inspirations, it's about them being grouped together with the more blatant ones. Had Munna & Musharna come out in Gen 3 among the other expies of that generation you would gladly accept them for what they are. On the other hand, if they had been part of Gen 4 or 6, people would just assume they were simply based on the same creature or were meant to be a feminine counterpart like how Diggersby is a masculine one for Lopunny. But instead they came out with the others from Gen 5, so it's more likely that they were meant to be stand-ins for their Gen 1 counterparts.

>>47160054
Pretty obvious at this point you're not interested in discussion, only (You)s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:40:24 No.47160188 Report

Quoted By: >>47160301

>>47160179
>literally admitting that you hold Gen V to a completely different standard to all the others, and you wouldn't be complaining if the exact same design came out of anothe Gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:42:30 No.47160204 Report

Quoted By:

>>47160179
>But instead they came out with the others from Gen 5, so it's more likely that they were meant to be stand-ins for their Gen 1 counterparts.
>Here's a non knockoff, and here's another non knockoff. Put them in one generation they both become knockoffs! R r right??!
Fucking kek.
>you're not interested in discussion
>doesn't address the point
page ten
scroll there NOW

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:46:39 No.47160233 Report

Quoted By: >>47160241 >>47160252 >>47160314

>>47160137
They're obviously meant to evoke Kanto mons (because the Dex is fucking enormous and it's a soft reboot,) it's not even a bad thing. But for the third fucking time, their execution is completely different to the point where it doesn't matter. Amoonguss is meant to ape the Pokeball mimic gimmick, but it's a fat fucking Poison/Grass mushroom instead of a speedy Electric Pokeball. Stop being a schizo and calm down

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:47:40 No.47160241 Report

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>>47160233
>they are knockoffd because it's a soft reboot, and it's a soft reboot because they are knockoffs
nice little argument there

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:48:14 No.47160244 Report

Quoted By: >>47160255 >>47160266 >>47160285

here i fixed it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:48:27 No.47160245 Report

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wait til this nigga sees how many blue eyes white dragons there are

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:48:47 No.47160252 Report

Quoted By:

>>47160233
>amoonguss is a knockoff, but i hate it because it is not enough of a knockoff
fucking kek
scroll to page ten

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:49:08 No.47160255 Report

Quoted By:

>>47160244
>
this is disgusting...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:49:38 No.47160264 Report

Quoted By: >>47160319

>>47154218
I will never get why Blitzle and Zebstrika are considered "replacement mons" when they server a completely different purpose from the Ponyta line...like imagine people saying the Mudbray line were shitty rip offs of ponyta despite doing things entirely different...idk maybe it's just me but saying a zebra is a rip off of a horse just sounds too retarded for people to actually believe

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:49:56 No.47160266 Report

Quoted By: >>47160290

>>47160244
It's already been fixed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:52:44 No.47160285 Report

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>>47160244
>because any tapir, horse-family animal (which includes rhinos btw), rocks, bats, fighters, frogs, crabs, crap, ducks, pokeballs, "jellyfish" psuedoes, bull family animals, or strong birds; any of those are definitely trying to rip off Kanto instead of trying to fill the role of their respective fucking animal or object inspirations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:53:06 No.47160290 Report

Quoted By: >>47160311

>>47160266
>minor parallels
sure buddy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:53:46 No.47160293 Report

Quoted By:

>>47157879
>zubat
>wubat
>swubat
NONONONO SAY IT AINT SO UNOVABROS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:55:03 No.47160301 Report

Quoted By: >>47160318

>>47160188
>completely ignores the part about Gen 3 for the sake of argument
I accept your concession.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:56:31 No.47160311 Report

Quoted By:

>>47160290
>doesn't know almost every generation has the kanto magnets, frogs, rocks, and bats; can't handle a region using something else to fill those fucking roles instead of using the kanto versions

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:56:44 No.47160314 Report

Quoted By:

>>47160233
Going by its replies (obvious samefag is obvious), paying attention to it is a waste of time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:57:41 No.47160318 Report

Quoted By:

>>47160301
>literally just replying for the (You)
take your meds, you fucking lost

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 17:57:45 No.47160319 Report

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>>47160264
See >>47160179.

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