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Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 07:59:41 No.47183056 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>47183065 >>47183291 >>47183315 >>47183662 >>47183911 >>47183998 >>47184032 >>47185188 >>47188685 >>47192619

>f-flareon just needs flare blitz! then it will be good! I swear!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 08:03:51 No.47183065 Report

Quoted By: >>47183267 >>47183883 >>47184048

>>47183056
Buff wild charge's damage
Buff the elemental punches
Give more speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 08:52:57 No.47183267 Report

Quoted By: >>47183277 >>47184586

>>47183065
If it gets anymore BST, it would be considered a legendary

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 08:55:36 No.47183277 Report

Quoted By: >>47183434

>>47183267
Take away 10 spa and put it in speed then
Rather have good electivire than mixed electivire

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 08:58:38 No.47183291 Report

Quoted By: >>47183324

>>47183056
>pokemon has mediocre stats
>be surprised it sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 09:03:01 No.47183315 Report

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>>47183056
Electivire would benefit a lot from volt tackle, along with the myriad of other physical electric types that get the shitty wild charge and nothing else.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 09:03:42 No.47183320 Report

Quoted By: >>47183331 >>47183955

Back in my days it was OU because it's movepool allowed it to hit 13 types super effectively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 09:04:02 No.47183324 Report

Quoted By: >>47183408 >>47183567

>>47183291
Fucking Nidoking is still useful and that thing has the most mediocre set of stats in the universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 09:05:31 No.47183331 Report

Quoted By: >>47187335 >>47187479

>>47183320
Electivire is still very good but it requires discharge spam from a teammate in doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 09:21:20 No.47183408 Report

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>>47183324
Nidoking also has Sheer Force, with boosts all its moves that matter by 30% on top of removing the recoil from Life Orb, which adds another 30%. A Timid 252/252 Nidoking with this setup has the equivalent of like base 213 SpAtk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 09:25:20 No.47183434 Report

Quoted By: >>47183645

>>47183277
So like what they did with Mega like Beedrill?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 09:50:48 No.47183567 Report

Quoted By: >>47194224

>>47183324
Nidoking has a (literally) broken ability and the movepool to make use of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 10:10:30 No.47183645 Report

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>>47183434
Megadrill had some of the most optimized stats in the game, they really wanted to make the thing work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 10:14:37 No.47183662 Report

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>>47183056
Just give him Iron Fist.

NATSUO TORNADOQUEEN99 ISHIDO

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NATSUO TORNADOQUEEN99 ISHIDO Mon 24 May 2021 10:19:55 No.47183686 Report

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY DID YOU DO THE DID THE DO THE DID??!?!?!??!?!?!??

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 11:02:03 No.47183883 Report

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>>47183065
I don't understand why the elemental punches don't have 90 base damage like thunderbolt, ice beam, and flamethrower

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 11:08:11 No.47183911 Report

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>>47183056
>f-flareon just needs flare blitz! then it will be good! I swear!
Ironically what they should have done was put move tutors in SwSh that teach Eevee (and Pikachu) the bullshit LGPE moves.
>Raichus now always have access to Surf variant for better coverage
>Eeveelutions now have good coverage
Though it would still be a good idea to swap Flareon's SpD with Speed. With a 65 HP and 60 Defense... Flareon needs the speed more than the special defense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 11:20:56 No.47183955 Report

Quoted By: >>47183993

>>47183320
Back in your day it was OU because they didn't filter shitters from the usage statistics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 11:30:19 No.47183993 Report

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>>47183955
Uhm hello? You weren't supposed to ruin the narrative about Electivire being a victim of powercreep and not a shitmon since its inception.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 11:31:31 No.47183998 Report

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>>47183056
Would be better but not exactly good

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 11:41:44 No.47184032 Report

Quoted By: >>47195160

>>47183056
Volt Tackle is memed to death, but how about Shift Gear?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 11:45:25 No.47184048 Report

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>>47183065
>Buff the elemental punches
Punches dont need buff, most of fire moves does though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 13:36:49 No.47184586 Report

Quoted By: >>47187322

>>47183267
Phione has a BST of 480.
>but that's a mythical, not a legendary
Base Calyrex has a BST of 500.
As long as the BST doesn't exceed 600, I don't see a problem with giving mons BST's over 550.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 15:15:07 No.47185188 Report

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>>47183056
Flareon has 65 speed and is weak to rocks

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 19:14:02 No.47187322 Report

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>>47184586
Both of the Pokemon you've mentioned were mistakes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 19:15:11 No.47187335 Report

Quoted By: >>47188386 >>47189399

>>47183331
What about in Singles?
>muh fanfic meta
There's an official Singles mode, dipshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 19:29:13 No.47187479 Report

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>>47183331
>0,04% usage according to pikalytics

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 21:07:46 No.47188386 Report

Quoted By: >>47190911

>>47187335
Then it's useless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 21:44:03 No.47188685 Report

Quoted By: >>47189429 >>47190999

>>47183056
So much power creep, it was great on gen 4

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 23:03:54 No.47189399 Report

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>>47187335
>Arguing with yourself then getting mad at your own response
Lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 23:06:38 No.47189429 Report

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>>47188685
It wasn't even good in Gen 4, it was a low-tier noob trab even then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 May 2021 01:45:20 No.47190911 Report

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>>47188386
It's also useless in Doubles, tbf

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 May 2021 01:53:06 No.47190999 Report

Quoted By: >>47191442

>>47188685
>Slower than average speed tier
>Lower Attack than the baseline for sweepers with shit STAB and low-BST coverage moves
>No options to boost except for an ability that requires switching into an electric-type attack
>Not even bulky enough to tank shit and deal damage in return
Electivire was shit. Mixed attackers are shit. Infernape was an exception in Gen 4 because it had both Nasty Plot and Swords Dance and also had access to 120 BP STAB moves in both physical and special sets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 May 2021 02:41:27 No.47191442 Report

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>>47190999
Also, Infernape actually has a speed stat above 105, so that helps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 May 2021 06:03:04 No.47192619 Report

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>>47183056
Electivire needs
>1. A better physical STAB move
>2. A move that raises Attack
>3. A move that raises Speed
>4. An ability that increases damage
>5. An ability that reliably increases speed
>6. A speed stat over 100
Even just one of those would improve Electivire massively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 May 2021 12:04:37 No.47194224 Report

Quoted By: >>47195247

>>47183567
>(literally) broken
What's broken about it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 May 2021 14:19:15 No.47195160 Report

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>>47184032
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 May 2021 14:28:05 No.47195247 Report

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>>47194224
It’s literally broken because it’s somehow prevents Life Orb Recoil when it obviously isn’t supposed to to that.

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