/vp/ - Pokémon » Thread #47229608

[40 / 2 / ?]

BATTLE MECHANICS

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 21:31:26 No.47229608 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>47229612 >>47229628 >>47230175 >>47230345 >>47230808 >>47230896 >>47237787 >>47237814 >>47237819

Hello there /vp/! I am currently making a pokemon fan game that is going to be something of an overhaul mod; but the core mechanics of Pokemon will still be there. I was wondering what everyone's favorite and least favorite Battle Mechanics are, and what I mean by that is:

Priority Moves
Weather
Entry Hazards
Held Items
etc.

What about those do you like, dislike, and what would you love to never see or deal with again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 21:32:18 No.47229612 Report

Quoted By: >>47229625

>>47229608
I hate megas

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 21:33:22 No.47229625 Report

Quoted By: >>47237386

>>47229612
I have no plans for Megas or Alolan forms, so don't you worry lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 21:33:45 No.47229628 Report

Quoted By: >>47229664

>>47229608
Love:
Abilities
Items
Evs
Weather

Hate:
IVs
Dynamax

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 21:34:39 No.47229639 Report

Quoted By: >>47229676

cut IVs, keep natures

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 21:36:35 No.47229664 Report

Quoted By: >>47229995 >>47230255

>>47229628
>Love:
>Abilities
>Items
>Evs
>Weather
I plan to include all of these, so good on you.

>Hate:
>IVs
>Dynamax
I agree with the IVs, as having their values be set to what I set in the PBS will be more balanced than some RNG version of it

Not sure what Dynamax is. Explain?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 21:37:39 No.47229676 Report

Quoted By: >>47237377

>>47229639
>cut IVs, keep natures
Natures are for sure staying; and that's 2 votes for no IVs so far lol; we're getting somewhere already.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO IMG_20190908_085219.jpg, 310KiB, 1261x1737

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 22:18:37 No.47229995 Report

Quoted By: >>47230040

>>47229664
What was the last gen you played? Either way don't listen to that fag Dynamax is KINO, just read this to get an idea of what it can do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 22:26:12 No.47230040 Report

Quoted By: >>47230098

>>47229995
The last gen I "enjoyed" was Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald.

To me the whole entry hazard and mega evolve meta was cancerous and I bailed hard, haven't played a real game since.

Dynamax sounds lame as fuck; where do they get this crazy shit from?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 22:34:58 No.47230098 Report

Quoted By: >>47230538

>>47230040
The biggest goal I have right now is to attempt to eliminate the unusable tiers of pokemon that exist in current gens. They have over 500 mons and like less than 100 are A and S tier material; to me, that's unacceptable. I want every single catchable creature to be valuable and viable at end game. In order to achieve this I have set Stage 1, Stage 2, and Stage 3 pokemon to a stat pool they must abide by and then distribute points from. So for example, every Stage 1 Mon would have 100 points to distribute into HP,ATK,DEF,SPD,S.ATK,S.DEF respectively; Stage 2; 200, Stage 3; 300. Those are not the real numbers, but you get the idea. Megas works against my goals, therefor will never be included unless all creatures get a mega at some point; which would then defeat the purpose of Megas, which was to strengthen ignored or weaker pokemon.

Convince me how Dynamax will not work against my goal of achieving balance between all mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 22:43:14 No.47230175 Report

Quoted By: >>47230239

>>47229608
idk if it counts but type balance makes me seethe- obviously there’s shit like Ice being garbage, but what bothers me more is that there’s no reason for some types to have a ton of weaknesses/resistances or se/nfe matchups while others have way less. Ideally my ideal type balance would see every type having around 3-4 of each.

Another thing is that I actually quite dislike how uneven abilities are. Not even just in terms of power, but complication of effects- there’s no reason to have straightforward abilities like Water Veil and then shit that takes up three sentences like Water Bubble even if it’s to buff a shitmon. My proposed solution would be to raise the ability cap (perhaps to 4) and make it so that Pokemon have all their abilities at once. This serves as a relative nerf to some busted legendaries who are traditionally stuck with one, and also gives an easier way to buff shitmons without making up new abilities or slapping every move in the book on them. A Pokemon might not have the best stats or moves, but it could have a unique ability combo that proves valuable. Something like Araquanid would now have Water Veil, Heatproof, and Water Bubble (which would now simply be a Water version of Steelworker).

Finally I think switching and pivoting needs some sort of eventual cost. I think it should be something that punishes juggling, making it so that actually trying to make the best of the matchup you’re in is rewarded slightly even if it’s disadvantageous. Not sure what the exact solution would be though- maybe some sort of slowly recharging PP pool got switching, a block on switching two turns in a row, or a “fatigued” status induced by severa switches.

anyway hope some of the shit opinions help op i always appreciate this sort of effort

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 22:52:17 No.47230239 Report

Quoted By:

>>47230175
>type balance
I won't release my Type info right now; but I have completel overhauled the Types system to be more logical, while trying not to go overboard on weaknesses / resistances and immunities.
>how uneven abilities are
I gutted every single pokemon from the scripts and added all my own, up to 250 atm, and planning to continue beyond that point once it's playable (long ways away) so they all have their own abilities. I did not create my own custom abilities, but I did try to make sure that the useless ones that were meant to brick did not make it in, and ones that got replaced by later versions such as Water Veil and Water Bubble only have one or the other, you won't find both.
>switching and pivoting needs some sort of eventual cost.
I am nowhere near a good enough coder to do something like that from scratch sadly lol. Although, I don't think I would, as always enjoyed juggling things around and playing chicken with your opponent. I suppose I could find a way to make it so you can only switch out once, then be forced to perform at least one action before the switch option is usable to avoid extreme juggling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 22:54:09 No.47230255 Report

Quoted By: >>47230326

>>47229664
>Not sure what Dynamax is. Explain?
It's the once-a-fight battle gimmick of the Galar region, lasting 3 turns or until fainted or switched out.
Mon's current and max HP double* and they gain all sorts of protection: flinching, weight moves, Disable/Cursed Body, stuff like Encore or Choice items, having their ability replaced with another mon's, and being forced out by another mon's effect.
Furthermore, all of their moves become Max Moves based on their type and function. A Status move becomes a Max Guard protecting move, while attacks are surehits that not only have some sort of added effect (stat change, weather, terrain, and so on) but also partially pierce protection that isn't Max Guard. Their base power and Phys/Special type depend on the original move, most being higher than the original.
It's accessible to all but three Pokémon, all of which are legendaries and two of which are solid Ubers (the third is Zamazenta, who is barely so).

There's also a Gigantamax which adds that one type (usually of that mon's) becomes a different Max move called a G-Max move. This is exclusive to certain mons and it makes a form change to boot.

*This actually starts as 1.5x and increases with Dynamax Candies up to 2x.

Hopefully that clears a bit of stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 23:01:36 No.47230326 Report

Quoted By:

>>47230255
Definitely gave me a clear idea of what it does; so thaks for that.

Definitely not making it in; trying to keep the combat clean and concise with no extra randomness.

I DO have weather and weather removal; I also plan on making my own weather effects and weather dependent moves later on.

I want to make sure that combat is still interesting and engaging, without it becoming the overwhelming mess of items and activatable effects that it has degenerated into; i'm just having a hard time drawing that line.

I loved weather teams; hated entry hazard teams with a big fatty tank with leftovers; hated mega evolve S tier elitists who IV bred and EV trained their megas out the wazoo; and idk what to think about this Dynamax shit. It just sounds annoying, but I can see how people enjoy the tactical side of having two modes to enter and determining the timing of it.

Thoughts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 23:03:53 No.47230345 Report

Quoted By: >>47230397

>>47229608
Give any pokemon below 430 base stats 100 points

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 23:09:10 No.47230397 Report

Quoted By: >>47233377

>>47230345
All pokemon have the same stat pools dependant upon their stage. No one pokemon of any same stage will have "bettter" stats than another, only more specialized ones.

So a stage 3 mon may have 100hp,80,atk,80,def,100spd,75s.atk,75s.def; while another will have 80hp,90atk,90def,90spd,80s.atk,80s.def; essentially equating to the same pool of what ever those numbers add up to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 23:23:12 No.47230538 Report

Quoted By: >>47230648

>>47230098
>They have over 500 mons and like less than 100 are A and S tier material; to me, that's unacceptable.
Are you familiar with card games or fighting games? You’re being unrealistic. No matter how tight you make the power band, there will always be the best options that then become what everyone will use competitively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 23:33:43 No.47230648 Report

Quoted By: >>47232874 >>47233304

>>47230538
TCGs are not even close to similar in terms of balancing lol.

Fighting Games are a bit closer, but unless the characters have predetermined base stats, or stupid addon items, (i'm looking at you SC4) the better player will always win.

I believe it to be achievable in a pokemon type game because stats determine almost everything. There will be people who sperge about this being the best type combo, or that being the best team set up and what not, sure; but at the end of the day, if all pokemon have stats from the same pool; none are better than another; simply more specified for the job at hand. So I 100% expect mons to be labeled as "the best sweeper" "the bet tank" "the best starter" etc. It is unavoidable. What I want is for the determining factor for that to be so miniscule that no one gives a shit about some elitists opinion on "what's best" and people play with the mons they enjoy like when we were kids. Nobody caught pokemon as a kid trying to create the most perfect team; we caught shit we thought was cool and wanted to use it; and I want that to ring true in my game, but have no consequence as it does in current pokemon games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 23:49:55 No.47230808 Report

Quoted By: >>47230893

>>47229608
>Love
Abilities
Weather
Entry hazards
Status effects

>Hate
IVs
EVs
Natures
Characteristics

>Indifferent
Held items

I really hate anything too obscure or unfun in the battle system. IVs and EVs are good examples of this. I also find Natures annoying as they can render a Pokemon near useless if they have a Nature that’s not advantageous. Mints were only just introduced, but even then, they’re basically only available post-game.

Held items can be useful, but I almost never use them in-game as they’re not necessary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 23:58:44 No.47230893 Report

Quoted By:

>>47230808
Curious as to what natures are going to brick a mon; been a while since I played and idk them off the top of my head.

IVs are most likely going to be removed, or if I can't remove them I will force max them.

Dunno what Mints are, but it's probably for the best if it was recently implemented.

Probably not gonna do entry hazards, but another anon and I discussed about having some restrictions of switching out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 23:58:54 No.47230896 Report

Quoted By: >>47231102

>>47229608
TemTem is a good model for Pokemon fan games.
>Little to no RNG
>Replace PP with stamina bar to disincentivize spamming your most powerful moves
>Each move has a speed stat to add more variation to turn order.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 00:28:37 No.47231102 Report

Quoted By:

>>47230896
>>Replace PP with stamina bar to disincentivize spamming your most powerful moves
That sounds like a good idea, will definitely look into that, thanks dude!
>Each move has a speed stat to add more variation to turn order.
I thought about doing that since every move has an individual priority of -6 to +6, so it would be very easy, I just didn't think ppl would like it. Cool to know someone else had the same idea and it was well received. I will consider revisiting that idea, if more anons agree that it is good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 05:17:53 No.47232874 Report

Quoted By: >>47233304 >>47233773

>>47230648
>if all pokemon have stats from the same pool; none are better than another;
Sounds like your idea of balancing every Pokemon is to make them all so similar that there's nothing unique about them at all, and they're all completely interchangable.

I'm sure it would work but at the cost of literally everything fun about this franchise

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 06:52:47 No.47233304 Report

Quoted By: >>47233331 >>47233773

>>47232874

balancing every Pokemon is to make them all so similar that there's nothing unique about them at all, and they're all completely interchangable
>at the cost of literally everything fun about this franchise
Not the anon you responded to but I see what you’re saying. However, the gap between good and bad Pokémon is so wide, the Game Freak’s favorite is so over the top at this point, part of me is starting to think that having everything literally be exchangeable would be a better alternative.

>>47230648
>if all pokemon have stats from the same pool; none are better than another;
Stats are important but they aren’t the only thing. I think movepool is just as if not more important. Zamazenta has the same BST as Zacian but it’s useless. Typhlosion has the exact Base Stats as Charizard, but it’s most recent Smogon page is nothing but Smogon shitting on its because of its nonexistent movepool.
Also you’d need to take abilities into account or stuff like Huge Power would become even more overpowered than it is already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 06:58:37 No.47233331 Report

Quoted By: >>47233394 >>47233773

>>47233304
I'd say the solution isn't to homogenize everything, it's to make them so unique that everything has it's own niche, no matter how small.
Pokemon being unique is 90% of the appeal of this franchise, even if you achieved perfect balance by making them all the same, what's the point if nobody cares enough to play it?

I feel like I've been teleported back a decade when I was unironically into MOBAs. I used to have this same debate all the time about DOTA vs League. League would balance by making every character so similar that the difference between good and bad was just having a slightly bigger number, while DOTA balanced by making everything so ridiculously OP that they could all have a niche in some situation. And DOTA ended up having far more variety in the characters picked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 07:08:58 No.47233377 Report

Quoted By: >>47233806 >>47236235

>>47230397
What about two stage and non evolving Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 07:16:04 No.47233394 Report

Quoted By: >>47233442 >>47233806

>>47233331
Having everything be good and uniqui would be the best scenario. It shouldn’t even be that hard to accomplish. One the fully evolved mons need to be balance to that cuts down on the total number of mons that need to balanced. Then there are restricted legendaries that should be better than everything else some those are encounters at the end of the game and have specific types about how they are used so those don’t need to be balanced with everything else. Then there are Other Legends and Psuedos and How should be weaker then the Restricted Legends but stronger than average. Combined with the fact that less Pokémon are being released in newer gens, making everything good is actually feasible. There are rom hacks that already pretty much do just that. From what I heard Radical Red does an amazing job with this, even gimmick mons like Delibird are fun to use even if they aren’t technically viable in competitive (it has an Ability called Surprise that is pretty much the ultimate wildcard)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 07:31:39 No.47233442 Report

Quoted By: >>47233806

>>47233394
Drayano hacks (Renegade Platinum being his most recent) do a good job of making everything somewhat viable, better than RR imo. Although I liked RR's attempt to make some new signature moves/abilities
Altered Emerald is a hack that really went wild with the buffs, a ton of Pokemon were changed to ridiculous extremes, that would probably be too far for the real games to consider, but it's fun nonetheless

If it were up to me I'd just hand out unique moves and abilities like candy. They've started doing it to new Pokemon a lot more in Gens 7/8 (even if those abilities often suck) but old Pokemon are often left in the dust with very dull and generic abilities.

Always bothers me how many Pokemon have unique characteristics in their lore that aren't explored in-game at all.
Why even tell us that Magcargo is so hot it instantly evaporates water on contact, then not give it some ability that nullifies water moves? It would fix one of it's biggest weaknesses while also being lore-friendly, and give it a niche, being the only fire type with a water immunity (at least the only non-legendary)
Why tell us that Gigalith fires laser beams of energy from the sun, then give it an almost identical stat spread to Golem, instead of being a special attacker (very rare among Rock types)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 09:06:52 No.47233773 Report

Quoted By:

>>47232874
>I'm sure it would work but at the cost of literally everything fun about this franchise.
The idea is to rather have them all be specified, as opposed to having them all be homogenized as you fear. Each role does not have the same stat distribution, just the same pool. Sweepers have high speed and high damage, but low hp and defenses; tanks have high hp and defenses, but low damage; brawlers have good overall stats that allow them to sustain damage and dish it back. These themes will be true for all roles, but each mon evolutionary stage has their stats set as a specific version of that role. Meaning some tanks will have high def but low s.def, high speed, but low hp, high hp, but low damage. Each will be their own mixed bag of stats that fits their theme. Only a few of my mons have generalized stats, and you'll understand why when you see them, if you've played the game they're from. Also, there will no doubt be bleed over; meaning that some niche roles will have multiple mons to fill it, and i'm ok with that. For example there are at least 2 S.Def tanks that have good SPD and decent S.ATK with Reflect style moves. Also, I gutted all original moves and made my own; currently working on adding custom status effects, but I can't figure out where I fucked up my current one.

>>47233304
>I think movepool is just as if not more important.
I completely agree, which is why I made my own moves; although if I add that stamina bar I might have to re-do those, as I did have to set their PP value in the PBS files.

>>47233331
While I agree entirely about DoTA vs LoL from start to finish; I don't think having every mon able to 1-shot each other is the right answer. I still play WC3 Dota to this day and I fucking love it, best moba ever made because it was made by fans, but handling an enemy before they can react will not be fun in a TBS setting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 09:16:59 No.47233806 Report

Quoted By: >>47235132

cont. hit text limit.
>>47233377
>What about two stage and non evolving Pokemon?
Two-stage mons are set to Stage 2 on catch and Stage 3 on Evolution for stat pool purposes if thats what you mean, and can evolve anywhere from level 22-30.

>>47233394
>Then there are restricted legendaries that should be better than everything else
Kind of. The way I have restricted and pseudo legendaries stats working right now is not that they have a bigger pool to choose from, but that the cap limit I set on each stat has been lifted. So if a regular mon can't have their ATK go above 100, the legendary ignores this and can go to 140.

>>47233442
I did not make any unique Abilities yet, but every mon has atleast 2 regular and 1 hidden atm; and I did filter out all the garbage ones and the ones that were essentially redone. I did incorporate a few lore-friendly abilities because I fucking love flavor; and as I said earlier, for anyone who has played the games these pokemon are from will greatly enjoy what i've done. For example I have a male/female variant where the male tends to sleep all day and do nothing (inspired by African lions) so he has Comatose. Where as the female is always alert, protecting the nest or hunting prey, so she has Insomnia. There are other way better ones, but they would give away the game i'm using.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 14:10:46 No.47235132 Report

Quoted By:

>>47233806
>have a male/female variant where the male tends to sleep all day and do nothing (inspired by African lions) so he has Comatose. Where as the female is always alert, protecting the nest or hunting prey, so she has Insomnia
That's interesting. Pyroar should have done something like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 17:00:14 No.47236235 Report

Quoted By: >>47237377

>>47233377
I forgot to address the question of non-evolutionaries. They are caught at Stage 3 for stat pool purposes and can also be found in books or lost pages. They are also much more difficult to catch than other mons, and some will naturally only appear in a safari zone type area.

Another thing I wanted to discuss was uncatchable event bosses with incredibly high stats, essentially a boss fight, where it's going to take several high power mons to take it down. I wanted to incorporate these as story progression, as optional super bosses, and as a legendary battle that gives you a regular powered mon upon defeating it.

Thoughts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 19:29:05 No.47237377 Report

Quoted By: >>47237686

>>47229676
No IVs, maybe no EVs either. More weather is good.
>>47236235
Look into totem pokemon in gen 7, which made players fight up to 3 enemies, one of them got stats upped. You're almost describing dynamax battles, which are supposed to be completed by several players. Having some unevolved pokemon and their final form as a boss could work up to lategame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 19:30:35 No.47237386 Report

Quoted By: >>47237686

>>47229625
Yay Galar forms!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 20:09:18 No.47237686 Report

Quoted By: >>47237814

>>47237377
>No IVs, maybe no EVs either. More weather is good.
IVs are definitely getting removed. EVs will most likely stay, as I enjoy the way it makes your mons slightly more unique and to your liking. Yeah, i've always enjoyed weather so I was gonna have 9 weather effects that each cover 2 types to buff and 1 to debuff; so for example a Thunderstorm would boost Water and Electric types, but weaken Fire types. Should I do 2 and 2 and make it debuff Ground or Rock as well? I am also working on weather dependent moves, meaning they can only be cast once your weather has been set up. There will obviously be pokemon that negate weather as well.
>>47237377
>You're almost describing dynamax battles, which are supposed to be completed by several players.
I should clarify; I don't want multiple mons out fighting it at once. I had meant that you would most likely have 3-4 of them faint or at least be switched out (I do want to make it nuzzlock friendly as well.)
>>47237386
>Yay Galar forms!
Sorry to disappoint you, anon; but I have no intention of adding any forms to the game. The fact that I didn't mention Galar forms was only due to the fact that I am ignorant to them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 20:25:05 No.47237787 Report

Quoted By: >>47238121

>>47229608
honestly the "everything has the same sum of stats" thing sounds good on paper, but realistically some spreads are going to be much better than others, so it's not really a way to equalize things. Imagine something like 50 atk and 50 spA vs 100 atk and 0 spA for example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 20:27:42 No.47237814 Report

Quoted By: >>47238121

>>47229608
You could recycle gen 2 EVs as a experiment. Just to see how modern pokemon does with access to 252 EVs on all stats.
IVs suck but it's a non issue if you have a npc to fix those.
>>47237686
Take a look at some forms, they actually add something to the game like Alola Marowak/Ninetales and Obstagoon(Galar Zigzagoon).

Also if you're using the stamina bar that other anon suggested mons will need more than 4 moves because they will need moves that drain less from it while still having main stab(s),coverage move and a fill slot.

You could also recycle gen 5 gems or recycle Z-moves. The second option seems more fitting if the stamina bar becomes a thing, so a Z-move would drain the bar and actually have a drawback.

Did you check how Terrain works OP? Because some have interesting effects and you can expand upon them better than weather conditions.

>>47237686
People who nuzlocke are in for the challenge, don't be soft on them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 20:28:29 No.47237819 Report

Quoted By: >>47238121

>>47229608
I do like the idea of entry hazards, but I hate how stealth rock barely scratches some mons while 2-shotting others.
I also wish they didn't break focus sash/sturdy because that ruins a lot of niche sets. maybe having sturdy/sash stay active until an actual direct attack hits the user would be worth testing out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 20:59:12 No.47238121 Report

Quoted By:

>>47237787
>Imagine something like 50 atk and 50 spA vs 100 atk and 0 spA for example.
I'd imagine the mon with low offense had high defense, and the one with only physical damage gets filtered by a physical tank.

>>47237814
>Take a look at some forms
I did, and while cool, I am limited on art supply and realistically would not be able to implement them in any semblance of balance unless I do the oldest trick in the gaming book and just recolor them; but that'd be cheap and I refuse; also that's what a shiny is, essentially lol.

>You could also recycle gen 5 gems or recycle Z-moves.
I have not incorporated gems or Z moves and probably will not

>Did you check how Terrain works OP?
Yeah, terrain is actually really cool and is in the game atm. I have abilities that generate and play off of terrain too. Also gonna work on custom terrains, much like I am with weather, where no mon is left out and there is a way to cancel it like weather.

>People who nuzlocke are in for the challenge, don't be soft on them.
I won't go soft, but having a fight where you 100% know you're gonna lose at least 1-2 mons is a bit of a drawback for them that no game before has had I don't think.

>>47237819
>I also wish they didn't break focus sash/sturdy
I'm glad you brought up Sturdy because it is 100% the reason I hate entry hazards so much; they completely negate one of the best abilities made.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 21:12:09 No.47238214 Report

Quoted By:

Speed stat and Priority

Capcode	All Only User Posts Only Verified Posts Only Moderator Posts Only Manager Posts Only Admin Posts Only Developer Posts Only Founder Posts
Show Posts	All Only With Images Only Without Images Only Spoiler Images Only Non-Spoiler Images
Deleted Posts	All Only Deleted Posts Only Non-Deleted Posts
Ghost Posts	All Only Ghost Posts Only Non-Ghost Posts
Post Type	All Only Sticky Threads Only Opening Posts Only Reply Posts
Results	All Grouped By Threads
Order	Latest Posts First Oldest Posts First

On these archives

Your latest searches

BATTLE MECHANICS