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Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:25:35 No.47257707 View View Reply Original Report

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Is pokemon beyond salvation? Just look at the *new* #SwSh trending on twitter and the army of literal mindless apologists, its mere existence destroys any chance of Pokémon even being at least at the level of the other JRPG's in the industry.
We're fucked...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:26:50 No.47257716 Report

Quoted By: >>47257732 >>47264374

>>47257707
What do you mean by pokemon? Pokemon snap was pretty ok? Do you mean 6v6 npc combat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:28:05 No.47257730 Report

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maybe not forever but definitely for as long as the switch gen lasts

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:28:11 No.47257732 Report

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>>47257716
core saga, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:28:28 No.47257736 Report

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>>47257707
Pokemon outside of Gay Freak's hands is still salvageable. (minus BDSP)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:29:40 No.47257750 Report

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>>47257732
Then yes it is dead. Nintendo design has been getting dumbed down for years except in non core titles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:29:41 No.47257751 Report

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>>47257736
directed by Masuda

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:30:07 No.47257758 Report

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>whaaa, why is the kiddy franchise not growing up for me

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Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:30:10 No.47257759 Report

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>>47257707
I agree that SWSH apologists are retarded, but doomposting and whining about what twittertards are doing is pointless and annoying. Anyways, this is now a Palkia thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:30:14 No.47257760 Report

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>>47257707
>Check
>It's just fanart and some people actually talking about how they dislike the game
What DID OP mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:31:17 No.47257774 Report

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>>47257758
If it's only for kiddies, why are you here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:32:38 No.47257785 Report

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>>47257758
Why is it that Pokemon is the only kiddy franchise that seems to have this problem?

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Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:34:39 No.47257798 Report

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>>47257758
>There is no problem with new games costing more than 50% of the original price despite becoming actively worse every year

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:36:34 No.47257821 Report

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>>47257758
>"It's ok to scam kids, they don't know any better!"

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Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:38:44 No.47257840 Report

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>>whaaa, why is the kiddy franchise not growing up for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:39:24 No.47257844 Report

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>>47257707
Pokemon's only hope is good competition that forces TPCi into putting more effort into their products. Unfortunately, every other monster battling/collecting franchise from TemTem to Robopon has failed to capture the same audience and capitalize of TPCi's laziness and incompetence.

That being said, I'm still expecting interest in Pokemon to drop soon just like it did around Gens 3-5. Go brought in a lot of casuals, but their shitty low effort cash grabs are oversaturating the market and even normies on Twitter are slowly starting to realize this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:42:53 No.47257879 Report

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>>47257758
OBEY DON'T THINK CONSUME

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:43:16 No.47257884 Report

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>47257758
I was going to give you the webm you forgot to save and are trying to bait people into posting it instead, but you can go into the archive and dig it out yourself you stupid faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:44:49 No.47257901 Report

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>>47257758
a bad kids game is a bad game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:47:15 No.47257925 Report

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>>47257774
Because I'm not expecting it to be anything but what it's been since inception (an entry-level kiddy RPG) and happen to like the concept and universe they've created. I recognise they ain't shilling at me, but that doesn't mean I have to fuck off and cry about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:52:39 No.47257964 Report

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>>47257707
Pokemon is no longer a product, it's a logo. People don't buy apple because they make good products, they're usually more expensive and with less features than competitors. They buy them because it's trendy to do so. Pokemon is popular for being popular right now, it's the kardashians of gaming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:52:53 No.47257968 Report

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>>47257785
Because it's the biggest, meaning there's a fuckload more kids who grew to adults, who saw other franchise "grow with their audience" and think Pokémon needs to do the same, failing to realise they only do that, to KEEP an audience. Pokémon doesn't care people grow up, there's always new kids growing up too and always been PLENTY of adults who'll go along for the ride (see: reaction to Dexit and 3.43m extra sales compared to the last Nintendo console normies bought in droves that Pokémon started their first new Gen on), sadly too many people think just because they play it, they need to be considered above others in the process of a new game's production.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:55:22 No.47258000 Report

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>>47257968
Previous gens were also for kids, yet still good games. Why don't you think kids today deserve good games? Why is "b-but it's for KIDS!" always used as a rallying cry for lower quality, when it should be the reverse?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:55:52 No.47258005 Report

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>>47257798
Get a job, you weren't considering financials when you were screaming for pokémon tat and console spin-offs as a kid, which is the point. They removed pokémon from Gen III's handheld games, to shill TWO gamecube games (tough shit if you had no GC, buy one bitch) don't act like this is something new, just because handheld was killed by mobiles and Nintendo would rather have a guaranteed profit from games, hardware sales and TPC-related profits.

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Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:58:23 No.47258037 Report

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>>47257821
Unironically, yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:58:34 No.47258039 Report

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>>47258005
>shills are STILL using this non-argument
Dude, Marnie isn't real, and even if she were, she wouldn't fuck a fat greaseball like you. Take a fucking shower, I can smell you through my computer screen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 21:59:30 No.47258044 Report

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>>47257901
And your opinion of bad sadly doesn't mean squat, even though you tried your hardest on metacritic with your buddies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 22:02:06 No.47258069 Report

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>>47257798
>despite becoming actively worse
Source?

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Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 22:03:30 No.47258085 Report

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>>47258039
I'm not attracted to children, have been 60kg this 11 years (can't keep weight on, 65's the most and that was after being stuck in the hospital and fed up a bit) and my skin is clear if dry. Maybe if you started eating right and exercising, you'd get that grease problem under control.
And then someone may think you're not a total waste of space and time and offer you a job.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 22:05:05 No.47258103 Report

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>>47258037
>random spinoffs are scams

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 22:06:34 No.47258114 Report

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>>47257707
What JRPGs should I play instead of Sword and Shield?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 22:10:15 No.47258164 Report

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>>47258114
he’s just going to list a bunch of single player rpgs that aren’t comparable to Pokemon at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 22:11:14 No.47258173 Report

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>>47257707
Masuda must be hanged, Pokemon given back to Tajiri and we're good to go

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 22:13:29 No.47258198 Report

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>>47258114
None, other jrpgs are shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 22:14:38 No.47258211 Report

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>>47258085
>have been 60kg this 11 years
What are you, a fucking midget? Shit, zero muscle mass, no wonder only low-t numales like SwShit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 22:16:51 No.47258233 Report

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>>47258114
good pokemon games

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 22:19:18 No.47258262 Report

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>>47258044
but he's right. and metacucks are paid to do good reviews.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 22:19:51 No.47258267 Report

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>>47258233
Such as?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 22:21:03 No.47258279 Report

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The new pokemon fan unironically don't want to play pokemon games. Their first pokemon is swsh and they don't mind the lack of content because they want to finish as soon as possible and play something else and they never played the old games so they don't complain about anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 22:24:22 No.47258312 Report

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Have shills ever thought about the fact that maybe, if swsh were good games at their core, people might have forgiven the cut mons? Or the fact that maybe people wouldn't be so pissed if gf hadn't blatantly lied?
The moment gamefreak framed things in terms of "hey, sure we cut mons, but look at all the HIGH QUALITY ANIMATIONS you're getting in return!", it's only natural that people would get more critical of these things after being told outright that this is what they get in exchange, their favorite mon was cut for scorbunny's double kick animation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 22:24:55 No.47258318 Report

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>>47258233
So gen 1-2 and nothing else? Sounds boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 22:26:04 No.47258329 Report

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>>47258114
i heard dragon quest 11 is good, its on switch too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 00:01:16 No.47259308 Report

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>I decide whether a game is good! Not the free market!
Grow up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 01:59:10 No.47260227 Report

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>>47259308
I too think justin bieber, taylor swift, and ariana grande are the most artistically significant and highest quality modern musicians.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 06:29:13 No.47261997 Report

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>>47257758
>>47257968
It's a fact that the majority of Pokemon's consumer and playerbase are males in their 20s

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 06:45:40 No.47262059 Report

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>>47257758
kids don't play pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 07:58:51 No.47262369 Report

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>>47257758
faggot
>>47258069
reality itself

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 08:01:01 No.47262378 Report

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>>47258085
ywnbarw

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 08:02:29 No.47262384 Report

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>>47259308
ad populum fallacy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 08:23:30 No.47262455 Report

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>>47257758
>What are Digimon Games
>What is literally every single first party Nintendo Game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 09:19:43 No.47262653 Report

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>>47260227
Based anon showing how ridiculous bootlicking paypigs are

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 09:22:17 No.47262664 Report

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>>47262455
>>What are Digimon Games
The ones that are even worse than Pokemon but you pretend otherwise because they aren’t Pokemon?

>>What is literally every single first party Nintendo Game
Splatoon 2 is pretty shitty if we use the same clown standards Swoosh detractors use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 10:12:17 No.47262837 Report

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>>47257707
I have my fingers crossed for Legends

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 11:05:46 No.47263064 Report

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People are sheep and will just keep defending their small indie company that for some reason have their hands on the single top grossing franchise in the globe. I honestly expect PLA to have many $15 DLCs. They know people are willing to buy post game content so it will end up being a barren open world game with emphasis on standstill exploration and simple puzzles like paying $2 to open a door.

OP I think most of the people defending Sw/Sh haven't played a good game in years. They simply don't know what a good game looks like, and so they are adamant that everything is fine and whoever is criticizing is nitpicking. The difference between Sw/Sh being a 3/10 game and Cyberpunk being a refund/10 is that people don't expect anything special from a pokemon game. They want to boot up, pick the seasonal fire starter and beat the champion. This is pokemon for casuals and as long as this works for them the game is ok.

tl;dr pokemon has low standards and people got used to it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 11:56:57 No.47263286 Report

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Hate hownthe biggest influencers have to be the most dicksucking ones. Imagine if people like Joe admitted aspects could better. Even for a game he doesn't like such as LGPE he only said as much after the game was out and avoided any negativity before then. Legends os going to be shit but people will defend it by default saying "at least they tried something different" and "it was their first open world game"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 12:28:42 No.47263458 Report

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>>47258044
Do you just suck corporate dick in the morning everyday?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 12:31:15 No.47263472 Report

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>>47258085
You sound like an absolute faggot who has nothing better to do but to defend a dying franchise. Grow up.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 12:37:22 No.47263503 Report

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>>47257707
>Is pokemon beyond salvation?
Yeah. It's an endless cycle.
Gamefreak keeps putting out bad games, and fans eating them up, feeding gamefreak endlessly to make more bad games.
Financial-wise, it's thriving.
Quality-wise, the franchise is dead.

It's better if you guys accept the fact that Pokemon will never be good again as long as masuda and ohmori's philosophy is deeply rooted inside gamefreak.
You either move on, and just play the old games and romhacks (which has more effort and passion put into them), or you give in to the darkness and go inside the belly of the beast like those bootlickers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 14:23:33 No.47264034 Report

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>>47263503
>again

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 14:34:38 No.47264110 Report

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>>47264034
and again, and again

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 15:12:25 No.47264374 Report

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>>47257707
Legends arceus is pokemon's last chance. If gamefreak fucks this up(90% chance they will) pokemon is forever doomed.
>>47257716
>Pokemon snap was pretty ok?
Laughable amount of content for what it is. At the very least they could've implemented a level designer or legendary missions like the Mew one from OG snap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 15:17:42 No.47264410 Report

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>>47263503
>Pokemon will never be good again
It was never good to start with; you just give the old games a pass because you were a kid when you played them and didn't know better. This franchise has always been hilariously behind other JRPGs of its era, even on handhelds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 15:18:28 No.47264417 Report

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>>47257707
you got it wrong op YOU are beyond salvation

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