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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 01:46:17 No.47361175 View View Reply Original Report

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I really wish they didn't just make him a jerkass mute. It made sense as a little joke in GSC since he's only there for the one battle, but to canonically make him a guy who just chooses to never speak to anyone like in SM is stupid. Why would they make the first protagonist such an unlikable asshole?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 01:48:50 No.47361189 Report

Quoted By: >>47361291 >>47361311 >>47364007

>>47361175
The point is that he was always meant to be a self insert so they didn't want to ruin that by giving him characterization that might not fit with the person doing the self inserting. If that's the case though then they shouldn't have made him a recurring character in the first place.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 01:51:25 No.47361209 Report

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>>47361175
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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 02:04:18 No.47361291 Report

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>>47361189
They give every other player character a personality in Masters, and the manga Red has a distinct personality that isn't mute asshole

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 02:08:22 No.47361311 Report

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>>47361175
>Why would they make the first protagonist such an unlikable asshole?
He's not a jerk at all though, he only comes across as this to you because /vp/ poisoned your mind into hating a character for not being Ash.
Also, an NPc in the original RB does say he's silent in St. Anne so it was there.
>>47361189
>they shouldn't have made him a recurring character in the first place
They shouldn't. I feel that they do regret doing that a bit given that, sans Masters, they never made another MC show up as an NPC but now that they did with Red, they'll keep using him whenever they feel like.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 02:10:54 No.47361331 Report

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>>47361175
I really don't get why he's mute. I mean judging by the way he talks to the Copycat it seems like he's reasonably social. If he went up to everybody like that and can respond to people when they ask him a question then he should probably just speak normally

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 02:11:02 No.47361334 Report

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>>47361175
He talks to the pokedoll girl iirc

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 02:13:54 No.47361356 Report

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>>47361175
He's not necessarily a jerk. There might be any number of underlying mental causes behind his silent streak.

>>47361331
The Copycat is a weirdo iirc. Don't they annoy people/their parents? I can't remember. Red may have been more open with them because they're strange inside. He also may have wanted to test their talent for mimicry. They also may have caught him by surprise.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 02:17:38 No.47361384 Report

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>>47361311
>he only comes across as this to you because /vp/ poisoned your mind into hating a character for not being Ash
? I don't even watch the anime. Red's just a dick

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 02:22:19 No.47361411 Report

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>>47361291
It’s not Red in masters it’s PL

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 02:23:50 No.47361420 Report

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>>47361411
Rent free

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 02:27:09 No.47361438 Report

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>>47361384
But you browse /vp/.
>Red's just a dick
Not really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 02:30:11 No.47361459 Report

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>>47361331
He was "mute" because he was a player insert so had to have the least personality possible to help muh immersion.
Then in GSC he had to be "silent" to not project any personality over anything that might've been projected by the player.

Then he was just famous for this so he stayed that way. But the original intent is not that he's antisocial, its that he had nothing interesting to say to the npcs because they were talking to (you).

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 02:30:57 No.47361468 Report

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>>47361411
what an incel kissing himself

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 08:28:25 No.47363160 Report

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>>47361175
Canon Red from Pokemon Red > Ash Ketchum (aka Anime Red) >>> Fanon Mute Jerk Red

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 13:34:55 No.47364007 Report

Quoted By: >>47364103

>>47361189
>they shouldn't have made him a recurring character in the first place
Honestly, this. It makes totally sense to be final trainer in GSC, but it was just 'hey remember Red and Blue huh duh' in Alola.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 13:59:58 No.47364097 Report

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But speak during interaction with the environment.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 14:01:35 No.47364103 Report

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>>47364007
Him and Blue turning up in SM was even more annoying when you considered Wally is there when he should be the age of those two also. Screams of just Kanto pandering

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