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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 04:36:53 No.47453877 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>47453885 >>47453887 >>47453899 >>47453946 >>47454538 >>47454668 >>47454734 >>47455367 >>47458957 >>47460005

I fucking hate this lying nigger.
WHAT IS HE TALKING ABOUT? This quote is from May 2018 so before the leaks were public. What a fucking lying cunt.

It's fine they reuse Pokemon ideas, so why say they don't? He thought we'd never find out, so just lie about it? WHAT'S THE POINT? I hate this nigger so much. He just always lies for no fucking reason at all. I hope he dies real soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 04:38:10 No.47453883 Report

Quoted By: >>47454668

where's the lie exactly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 04:39:18 No.47453885 Report

Quoted By: >>47453907 >>47454650

>>47453877
To clarify: we know now that they've reworked old Pokemon ideas like proto Celebi into Leafeon, or bringing back proto Mime Jr., or proto Tangrowth, but at the time we didn't, and so this condescending lying nigger FAGGOT CUNT was saying they never have and never will. FUCK JUNICHI MASUDA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 04:39:39 No.47453887 Report

Quoted By: >>47453903 >>47454434

>>47453877
Didn't even have to wait for the leaks to know this was lying. Noivern was planned for gen 5 and got scrapped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 04:40:51 No.47453899 Report

Quoted By: >>47453914

>>47453877
why does he have to be a nigger though? he's not even black..

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 04:41:15 No.47453903 Report

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>>47453887
Makes sense, Noivern was the only good mon to come out of Gen 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 04:41:57 No.47453907 Report

Quoted By: >>47453987 >>47454002

>>47453885
that sounds more like your fanfic than something we know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 04:43:34 No.47453914 Report

Quoted By: >>47454367 >>47457247

>>47453899
You're right, he's more of a filthy fucking kike than a nigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 04:46:07 No.47453923 Report

Quoted By: >>47453957

Aren’t you guys kinda making leaps considering this is a translation? It doesn’t even necessarily say that they don’t rework ideas, just that Pokémon that don’t make the final cut don’t just get popped in at a later date.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 04:50:28 No.47453946 Report

Quoted By: >>47453963 >>47454436

>>47453877
There is literally not a single confirmed cut Pokemon that went on to be in a later game, except Gastrodon for some reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 04:52:19 No.47453957 Report

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>>47453923
Why would you ever give "Sword and Shield suck because we spent all our time on MOVE ANIMATIONS"-san the benefit of the doubt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 04:53:21 No.47453963 Report

Quoted By: >>47453984

>>47453946
The leaks are real. It's been confirmed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 04:56:25 No.47453978 Report

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I just want my kotora and wolfman bros...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 04:57:24 No.47453984 Report

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>>47453963
And none of them are in a later game

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 04:58:37 No.47453987 Report

Quoted By: >>47453999 >>47454002

>>47453907
No, we know Shellos was supposed to be Gen III and showed up in Gen IV, Leafeon was found in GS beta stuff (not the so-called Gold '97 beta, the actual GS beta) and that's also ignoring what other GF staff have said about the creation process.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 05:00:25 No.47453999 Report

Quoted By: >>47456509

>>47453987
>Leafeon was found in GS beta stuff
No it wasn't.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 05:01:02 No.47454002 Report

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>>47453907
>>47453987
And that's also ignoring the Gen I beta 'mons they showed off on telly when that Tajiri manga came out and they said that they were showing these designs off, they had scrapped them as potential pokémon ideas. Basically, if they don't think they can get a design to work and can't re-purpose it over time, they shelve it completely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 05:09:48 No.47454044 Report

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>>47453984
Just kill yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 06:19:22 No.47454361 Report

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Bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 06:21:38 No.47454367 Report

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>>47453914
he’s not jewish either. try again

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 06:41:41 No.47454434 Report

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>>47453887
>Noivern was planned for gen 5 and got scrapped.
Was this in the leak?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 06:42:54 No.47454436 Report

Quoted By: >>47454464

>>47453946
Leafeon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 06:48:26 No.47454464 Report

Quoted By: >>47454490

>>47454436
Nope, there is no Leafeon in anything pre gen4, perhaps you are mistaking it for Leafy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 06:53:57 No.47454490 Report

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>>47454464
What do you get out of this pretending to be retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 07:08:23 No.47454538 Report

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>>47453877
Why this hurt your life? Just words, go on anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 07:10:45 No.47454544 Report

Quoted By: >>47454584

>>47454490
A Pokemon with a different design and name and a decade between them is not a reused Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 07:21:00 No.47454584 Report

Quoted By: >>47454599 >>47454733

>>47454544
I hadn't checked the leaks wiki in a while--it wasn't Celebi, it was just in Celebi's slot. It was fucking named Leafeon all along.
https://tcrf.net/Proto:Pok%C3%A9mon_Gold_and_Silver/Spaceworld_1997_Demo/Pok%C3%A9mon#Missing_Pok.C3.A9mon

Ctrl+F "Leafeon"
It's right fucking there. It even has a cross reference to Battle Revolution data that proves the name.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 07:26:27 No.47454599 Report

Quoted By: >>47454609 >>47454636 >>47454665 >>47454733

>>47454584
Leafy being Leafeon is pure head canon and should be removed from the page

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 07:30:03 No.47454609 Report

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>>47454599
What do you get out of this pretending to be retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 07:39:49 No.47454636 Report

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>>47454599
It evolves from Eevee, is grass type, and shared the same name as Leafeon did during Gen 4's development, according to some files from Battle Revolution. Like, there's been some bullshit said about various things about in development Pokemon, like the vague connections between the Kokopelli looking motherfucker and Celebi, or the apparent pre-evolution of Blastoise that you can't fucking tell anything about because Gen 1 backsprites are fucking terrible. But that's like saying Baririina isn't basically Mime Jr. even though it's also a pre-evolution of Mr. Mime, and shared it's name with Mr. Mime during the development of Gen 1, even though here's no evolution data for it in the Spaceworld proto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 07:43:55 No.47454650 Report

Quoted By: >>47457225

>>47453885
>like proto Celebi into Leafeon
Do you have brain damage? It's clearly just a late addition they didn't have time to shift around yet, not an actual mythical or anything. I still don't know what their internal index numbers are, but I imagine it would be the last index number in that build.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 07:47:09 No.47454660 Report

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OMG CONGRATULATIONS
>>47454562

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BME !wp8LJJh.fs Thu 24 Jun 2021 07:48:17 No.47454665 Report

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>>47454599
Idk familia it looks like it's literally just a scrapped leafeon

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 07:50:02 No.47454668 Report

Quoted By: >>47454913 >>47456532

>>47453877
>>47453883
This neta from 1997 is undeniable beta turtouga, they even have the same eyes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 08:11:15 No.47454733 Report

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>>47454584
The only name the beta design went by is in the games files, リーフィ "Leafy." "Leafeon" is an English name made by localizers for Gen 4. Why would an in-development Japanese game already have localized English names? Especially since many of the Pokemon in the beta don't even have final Japanese names. Clearly the guy that wrote the page just made an (admittedly fair) assumption and added in the name himself.
I gotta agree with >>47454599 as well. Leafeon and Leafy aren't necessarily the same, all they share is the basic concept of a grass type Eevee evo. Not trying to saying that they definitely aren't the same though. But for all we know, it's possible they locked Leafy away forever after GS, and later on a designer came up with Leafeon for DP completely independently of Leafy. So from the eyes of the developers, the designs were conceived separately, similar to Madame and Sirfetch'd.
And I think this might be what Masuda is trying to get at here? For certain designs, they said "this thing sucks, trash it" and they have never brought those ones back, as he says in the interview. Either the concept was trashed forever, like the baby Tangela, or a new design with the same basic idea was made independently of the original, like Sirfetch'd. In other cases they may have said something like "this one's cool so we won't com trash it, but lets save it for the future because reasons" like with Gastrodon.
Who really knows though. Maybe the translation is missing some nuance from his original words, or maybe Masuda really is just some lying senile grandpa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 08:11:28 No.47454734 Report

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>>47453877
He means Pokémon that got scrapped was ever picked up in their raw form and re-released. Things might’ve been inspired by scrapped designs or worked on from them, but it’s true to the extent of our knowledge no Pokémon was left out of a game and then brought back with the exact same design. Even Gastrodon got a rework and gained a gimmick

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 09:09:31 No.47454913 Report

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>>47454668
That's not a beta pokemon, it's just basically a fakemon he designed for a magazine cover. It's not even meant to be a pokemon at all

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 11:34:20 No.47455367 Report

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>>47453877
Gorochu was pretty obviously reworked into Thundurus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 14:38:02 No.47456509 Report

Quoted By: >>47456575

>>47453999
Yes it was. https://tcrf.net/Proto:Pok%C3%A9mon_Gold_and_Silver/Spaceworld_1997_Demo/Pok%C3%A9mon Check number 251. It's an Eeveelution that evolves with a Leaf Stone. It's Japanese name is almost identical to Leafon's (they're Leafy and Leafia respectively).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 14:41:35 No.47456532 Report

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>>47454668
It's literally not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 14:49:08 No.47456575 Report

Quoted By: >>47456659 >>47456660

>>47456509
>It's an Eeveelution that evolves with a Leaf Stone
That looks nothing like Leafeon.

>It's Japanese name is almost identical to Leafon's
So they're not the same? Great.

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BME !wp8LJJh.fs Thu 24 Jun 2021 15:02:03 No.47456659 Report

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>>47456575
Extreme autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 15:02:03 No.47456660 Report

Quoted By: >>47456673

>>47456575
>Scrapped Grass-type Eeveelution obtained after exposing an Eevee to a Leaf Stone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 15:04:40 No.47456673 Report

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>>47456660
>new eeveelution that looks nothing like scrapped design and doesn't evolve by leaf stone at the time it came out
woah.....

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 16:30:32 No.47457225 Report

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>>47454650
I already said I made a mistake. It was theorized to be Celebi early on when the leaks came out due to its dex spot/no translations yet and I had never gone back to check.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 16:34:44 No.47457247 Report

Quoted By: >>47459997

>>47453914
Hes not a nigger, hes a niggerfaggot. Thats someone who isn't actually a nigger, but behaves like a homosexual one, which is even worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 20:09:59 No.47458957 Report

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>>47453877
Damn, Cody. You mad as hell over these children's games huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 22:09:57 No.47459997 Report

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>>47457247
May Allah forgive you for uttering those words anon

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 22:11:06 No.47460005 Report

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>>47453877
He's trying to pull a Sakurai even though everyone hates that shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 22:19:56 No.47460068 Report

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>dude this pokemon beta has vague similarities to a real one so they are the same

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