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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 05:17:11 No.47507063 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>47507074 >>47507623 >>47507925 >>47508883

Why are so many champions and gym leaders kids and young teens? Are adults less competent in this universe or does youth give some sort of advantage in bonding and training mons? Is it a reflection of how competitive training is, so few people can make a living training for more than a few years without getting filtered?

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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 05:19:31 No.47507074 Report

Quoted By: >>47507090 >>47512516

>>47507063
Because in Japan your life ends whe you hit 20

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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 05:23:15 No.47507090 Report

Quoted By: >>47507112

>>47507074
And it's a kid's game, too. But do you guys have your own explanation?
I know they fleshed it out a bit in Sword and Shield and other games by mentioning a high attrition rate, and adult trainers seem more common as the game progresses, but it's fun to speculate.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 05:27:43 No.47507112 Report

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>>47507090
My explanation is that masuda and co are retards and never thought they would make a multibillion franchise, so they just went like ]"eh whatever, who cares just do it" and hoped their game would sell around 1-2m copies to susbsist, but now they sell way too much and broke all records.
some people are talented, like the Elite 4 and (You) and others are forever mediocre like every other NPC, but the Japanese lesson these games give is that if you don't give up (since you can lose, if you are novice or just get cocky or unlucky) is to NEVER GIVE UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE

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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 07:02:04 No.47507562 Report

Quoted By: >>47507612 >>47511681

my headcanon explanation is that the matured people/adults realize journeying around the region to capture wild animals and train them for cockfights isn’t steady work, as not only must you pay people for losing, but winning doesn’t grant you a hefty amount of prize money.
assuming you are on the younger side in the games, it makes sense for you to not notice how the world works. You don’t care for the politics, or why the pokecenter is free, and in general how society works, but the adults aren’t give that privilege of ignorance. Unless you’re already rich, the only Pokémon training job that presumably pays well are Gym Leaders and the Elite 4 (including Champion). this makes sense considering that you never encounter another “Pokémon Trainer” class throughout your journey, just random job NPCs. Don’t forget that “Policeman” is a job, or that there’s always some gang in the region where everyone’s houses are unlocked, so chances are every city/town is bustling with criminal activity.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 07:11:46 No.47507612 Report

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>>47507562
Yeah. I think this makes the most sense. Competitive training is a high-stakes zero sum game, so it's literally impossible for most people to be successful unless there's a lot of extra money being injected into the system, which doesn't seem to be the case. And that doesn't even factor in the cost of supplies.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 07:14:43 No.47507623 Report

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>>47507063
I had a L.100 Pidgeot when I was 9 years old. So why is it so hard to believe that a 15 year-old can have a L.14 Onix?

And having Agatha or Blaine as your rival would be weird.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 07:38:25 No.47507740 Report

Quoted By: >>47508330

I think adult incompetence must play a role. Team rocket grunts act like bumbling morons, dropping vital keucards and divulging important info. Their victims are even dumber. In the Pokemon world most adults leave their front door unlocked even though burglars/arsonists and ninjas exist, not to mention thieving Pokemon.
Based on how stupid some of the Pokedex entries are, and the fact that she doesnt have any education beyond elementary school, the protag isn't a genius herself, so the average Pokeworld inhabitant must have the intelligence of an infant to be outsmarted by the protag, which explains why their entire society revolves around monster fighting.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 08:30:07 No.47507925 Report

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>>47507063
Because kids have nothing better to do and only the truly skilled pursue it to the end while adults still need to run the world.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 08:51:24 No.47508017 Report

Quoted By: >>47508048 >>47508817

Wacky headcanon incoming:

In the case of the majority of Gym Leaders being young people, it's not because being younger makes you a better trainer in some weird way - it's the opposite. The Gym Leaders you go up against *aren't* necessarily the greatest trainers in the world - they're talented people, usually early in their careers, who are employed by their respective Leagues to assess challengers and make sure they're ready for the big time. Why? Because it's a steady paying gig that provides valuable experience and helps them improve their skills. They use preset teams and often handicap themselves to accurately gauge a challenger's skill level. No trainer with serious aspirations to aim for the top would want to spend their whole career as a Leader. In the case of people like Opal, being a Leader literally is their calling in life, but that's a minority.
A trainer who can beat 8 gym leaders at increasingly difficult benchmarks is considered competitive or pro quality. The vast majority of people you see in-game who are confirmed to meet that standard are in Victory Road as either Veterans (who represent old and highly experienced career competitors) or Ace Trainers (who are young hotshots who look in their 20s). There are also of course Champions and the Elite Four, who by my reckoning are mostly adults, some young and some old, with a few child prodigies (Iris, Acerola, Blue, etc) thrown in. The player character is likewise a highly gifted rarity among trainers, not the norm.

Does this make sense to anyone else??

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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 08:56:54 No.47508048 Report

Quoted By: >>47508092 >>47508792

>>47508017
I buy it. I also don't know of if any gym leader is former E4/Champion outside of Blue.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 09:06:01 No.47508092 Report

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>>47508048
If Kabu really is Flannery's grandpa, then he was once an E4 in Hoenn. Volkner is also considered on their level.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 09:47:30 No.47508330 Report

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>>47507740
>muh pokedex entries are made up
Retarded reddit headcanon for people that can't accept Pokemon are fictional creatures in a fictional planet

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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 11:16:29 No.47508792 Report

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>>47508048
>I buy it. I also don't know of if any gym leader is former E4/Champion outside of Blue.
Cheren is not a former champion or Elite 4 member, bu he did beat the Elite 4.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 11:22:55 No.47508817 Report

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>>47508017
That headcanon works in most of the regions, except Galar. Also explains why that game doesn't have a real Victory Road.
There, people specifically take the challenge, and only 4 people got all the way to the final tournament(we only know who 3 of them are).
The Gym Leaders there also have leagues to decide who gets to be the top ones.
It's a professional sport there.
>No trainer with serious aspirations to aim for the top would want to spend their whole career as a Leader.
Technically still true here since the Galar Leaders are all aiming for that champion spot themselves.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 11:41:12 No.47508883 Report

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>>47507063
I've had the idea that Pokemon, as a sport, is very much in its infancy relative to how long the Pokemon has existed. Basically, it's a younger folks thing to tame the beast and pit them against each other while putting money on the line, with a few exceptions.
So Gym Leaders/E4/Champions are young not solely due to talent, but also because they have the better know-how, having been born and raised in a world where Pokemon battling is the norm.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 17:40:07 No.47510701 Report

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Bump

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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 19:55:54 No.47511681 Report

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>>47507562
>this makes sense considering that you never encounter another “Pokémon Trainer” class throughout your journey
Except for Ace Trainers

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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 21:57:49 No.47512516 Report

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>>47507074
Elaborate pls

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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 22:06:56 No.47512600 Report

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>>47512516
They either study for 18 hours a day in universities or get a job and their entire life is tied to slave for the company

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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 22:08:55 No.47512610 Report

Quoted By: >>47512624

>>47512600
That's normal in Japan. They, and Asian countries in general, have a very different work culture to that of the rest of the world.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 22:10:31 No.47512624 Report

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>>47512610
yes but he asked "elaborate pls" so I did

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