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Venosaur G1 love thread

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 12:31:36 No.47557243 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>47557247 >>47557248 >>47557314 >>47557362

>Literally the only starter that is any good
>Literally proven since its the only starter that is even viable in competitive in UU
>Because how OP sleep is in G1 win battles by spamming sleep powder all the time
>Friends get interested and start doing the same in G1

>Nooo muh fire dragon
Trash.
>Noo muh turtle it has canons and shit
Trash.

Are the Charizard/Blastoise fags salty that their starters are useless in competitive ? Or did they never play competitive ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 12:33:22 No.47557247 Report

Quoted By: >>47557274

>>47557243
You forgot Rzaor Leaf that crits all the time due to G1 game mechanics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 12:33:26 No.47557248 Report

Quoted By: >>47557377

>>47557243
I just like his playstyle. Charizard and Blastoise have boring unga bunga movesets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 12:33:56 No.47557251 Report

Quoted By: >>47557255

gross. a captcha was wasted on this non-opinion

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 12:35:14 No.47557255 Report

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>>47557251
Yes anon, that's not an opinion but a fact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 12:44:40 No.47557274 Report

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>>47557247
>You forgot Rzaor Leaf that crits all the time due to G1 game mechanics.
Ah yes this is the sound of perfections and how many PP it has VS fire blast and hydro who only have 5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEpaWLCEbPk
Perfect pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 12:55:43 No.47557314 Report

Quoted By: >>47557351

>>47557243
>west cucks labeled him as worst starter because it btfo charizard in every single category
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 12:58:29 No.47557320 Report

Quoted By: >>47557326 >>47557358

I would like Venusaur more if its Sugi artwork didn't make it look like an ugly fat fucking frog. It's unironically one of the only Gen 1 Mons that transitioned well to 3D.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 13:00:11 No.47557326 Report

Quoted By: >>47557374

>>47557320
This. Sugi tried too hard to make people hate Venusaur because it's too hard to draw

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 13:01:19 No.47557332 Report

Quoted By: >>47557336

>A thread died for this

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 13:02:30 No.47557336 Report

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>>47557332
Nothing of value was lost

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 13:10:12 No.47557351 Report

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>>47557314
>>west cucks labeled him as worst starter because it btfo charizard in every single category
Is the Venosour hate made of the fact that the Charizard fags need to have their copium?

>Charmander
Worst starter in story mode
Useless in competitive.

>Squirtle
Good in story mode
Useless in competitive.

>Bulbasour
Best in story mode
Viable in competitive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 13:12:56 No.47557358 Report

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>>47557320
>an ugly fat fucking frog.
Its supposed to be a monster.
Literally the only thing wrong with it is that it looks stoned all the time.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 13:15:59 No.47557362 Report

Quoted By: >>47557375 >>47557388

>>47557243
>>Literally the only starter that is any good
? post ball rank

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 13:20:28 No.47557374 Report

Quoted By: >>47557394 >>47557413

>>47557326
The 3D model makes him look too flat. The leaves and flower are too orderly, it's supposed to give thee feel of a lumbering jungle monster. Then the sugi art makes the face look off. Venusaur is a wide-faced toad yes, but multiple images on the right show that that can be made to look cool and fierce rather than retarded. I think adventures has it perfect.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 13:20:30 No.47557375 Report

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>>47557362
OK.
Remember to stay mad !

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 13:20:50 No.47557377 Report

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>>47557248
Venusaur's playstyle is too fast for it's design, imo

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 13:22:59 No.47557388 Report

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>>47557362
? post elo

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 13:23:40 No.47557394 Report

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>>47557374
>I think adventures has it perfect.
I think pokemon need to be re imagined in their looks. Remember the ass ugly sprites from the OG games? Before yellow ?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_pU6pzrhl4

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 13:27:28 No.47557413 Report

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>>47557374
This is how blastoise used to look.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 13:30:40 No.47557426 Report

Quoted By: >>47557443

So have we moved past the point of the bulba line being some kind of hipster/contrarian pick in the west? It seems like people genuinely love the guys now, maybe not quite as much as the other two, but still. People loved them in detective pikachu. Plus, they benefit from the kanto starter pandering and I think they've aged pretty well. Not as many monstrous starters around these days so they've got an enduring appeal.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 13:34:04 No.47557443 Report

Quoted By: >>47557464

>>47557426
only west cucks hated Bulbasaur because they didn't want to accept the fact that it was the best Kanto starter

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 13:37:21 No.47557464 Report

Quoted By: >>47557517 >>47557591

>>47557443
>only west cucks hated Bulbasaur because they didn't want to accept the fact that it was the best Kanto starter

Can someone explain this phenomena of hate for him to me ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 13:44:55 No.47557517 Report

Quoted By: >>47557538

>>47557464
dumb people who never played an RPG before Red/Blue couldn't understand the playstyle of Venusaur.
they just wanted to spam a move to win like Ember and Bulbasaur was more about strategy, so they thought it's useless and weak but in reality they were brainlets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 13:47:43 No.47557538 Report

Quoted By: >>47557550

>>47557517
Hmm and I was thinking its
>ZOMG cool fire dragon I want to play it !
>Fire cool !
>NOO why am getting destroyed ?! This can not be happening !

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 13:49:59 No.47557550 Report

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>>47557538
early days of hate was literally
>OMG 5 WEAKNESS IT'S USELESS
>OMG SOLAR BEAM TAKES 10 YEARS TO ATTACK UGHGHG
>OMG WHY USE SLEEP POWER INSTEAD OF FLAMETHROWER?
after they got btfo that Bulbasaur is the best starter they backpedaled and created "lmao easy mode, real players pick charmander for challenge XD" meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 13:56:48 No.47557591 Report

Quoted By: >>47557673 >>47557766 >>47557791

>>47557464
The American media culture of the 90s was very COOL EPIC RADICAL DUDE. So FUCKING FIRE DRAGON and TURTLE WITH FUCKING GUNS (action turtles were kind of in because of TMNT) easily beat out "weird ambiguous fat thing with a pink flower." Grass is lame dude, not cool like fire or even water, man. It also plays less unga like the other guy says, although isn't that wrong, doesn't Venusaur hit harder than Blastoise even in gen 1? Regardless, the fact that no one ends up using bulbasaur in-game if you pick charmander like most people lead to the idea catching on that the bulbasaur line is the forgotten, unloved, weird pick for weird people. It's really a product of its time, even guys like Torterra, which was also the least popular of its own trio, still had a lot of fans right away and wasn't disrespected like that (at least, outside the anime).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 14:08:18 No.47557673 Report

Quoted By: >>47557721

>>47557591
>no one ends up using bulbasaur in-game if you pick charmander
there are two NPCs that use Bulbasaur and Ivysaur, and Erika gym's girls use Bulbasaur and Ivysaur too, zoom zoom

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 14:14:45 No.47557721 Report

Quoted By: >>47557733

>>47557673
Oh come on, you know what I meant. No major character picks the guy up, he's left on the table to rot. It's not like these days when there's usually some third character that takes on the last guy.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 14:16:19 No.47557733 Report

Quoted By: >>47557747

>>47557721
>zoomer found 9gag memes
Bulbasaur is canonically the picked starter now fuck off back to discord

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 14:17:57 No.47557747 Report

Quoted By: >>47557761

>>47557733
Bulbasaur is literally my favorite of the three, I was just explaining why it was shat on in the west in the past. Relax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 14:19:40 No.47557761 Report

Quoted By: >>47557955

>>47557747
alright.
that thing happened because Green version never released outside Japan so every kid picked what was on the cover.
When LeafGreen happened, the newer players liked Bulbasaur more than Squirtle.
it was an awful marketing psychology

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 14:20:08 No.47557766 Report

Quoted By: >>47557791

>>47557591
What was I thinking while picking my first starter Pokemon:
>Hmm fire not really something nice
>Water OK however its cold and stuff
>Flower I like flowers and summer and spring I take that one.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 14:24:36 No.47557791 Report

Quoted By: >>47557955

>>47557766
>>47557766
Fuck forgot the picture !
>>47557591
What was I thinking while picking my first starter Pokemon:
>Hmm fire not really something nice
>Water OK however its cold and stuff
>Flower I like flowers and summer and spring I take that one.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 14:47:01 No.47557955 Report

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>>47557761
Yeah there's more to it of course, Venusaur not appearing on the box art or getting as much attention in the anime also contributed. I wonder if LeafGreen might have also helped the second wave of pokefans come around on the guy.
>>47557791
Yeah I was thinking similarly. There's a lot to like about a flowering plant monster, its G-max form treating it like a pollen volcano is really interesting, for instance. And the idea of solar beam is a lot cooler than "big fire blast" or "big water blast" like the other two do for their best moves. Also, I loved the adventures manga as a kid, and Red's Venusaur was awesome. Pic related was insanity.

But most people didn't think that way, and that's just how mass appeal works.

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