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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 04:29:55 No.47645737 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>47645743 >>47645753 >>47645755 >>47645761 >>47645775 >>47646596 >>47647179 >>47647852 >>47648067 >>47648157 >>47650234 >>47653020 >>47653586 >>47653696 >>47654727 >>47654733 >>47656300

>weak to so many things
>still powerful enough to be OU in smogon
HOW???

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 04:31:27 No.47645743 Report

Quoted By: >>47646513 >>47647847 >>47647914

>>47645737
Sandstorm.
It's feels like it's going to drop soon though, Sand is terrible in current OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 04:33:44 No.47645753 Report

Quoted By: >>47647251

>>47645737
Masuda forgot it was a Johtomon so they forgot to make it useless to make KANTOOO look better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 04:34:00 No.47645755 Report

Quoted By: >>47645761 >>47646733

>>47645737
last I played showdown, megas were still a thing in the current meta so I guess that. its surprisingly pathetic otherwise

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 04:34:37 No.47645761 Report

Quoted By: >>47645775 >>47653020

>>47645737
play the game

>>47645755
>its surprisingly pathetic otherwise
play the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 04:37:59 No.47645775 Report

Quoted By: >>47645778

>>47645737
On another note, what if its type is changed into Ground/Dark? Will it be better?
>>47645761
I am.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 04:38:36 No.47645778 Report

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>>47645775
no, because then it'd lose its giant special defense stat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 05:07:54 No.47645892 Report

Quoted By: >>47646713

600 BST
Massive movepool
Auto Weather

Retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 08:05:00 No.47646494 Report

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Rock still needs to be buffed regardless of how good Tyranitar is despite the seven weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 08:08:50 No.47646513 Report

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>>47645743
>Sand is terrible in current OU.
Just unban Dracovish lol

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 08:26:27 No.47646596 Report

Quoted By: >>47647099 >>47647221

>>47645737
A stat spread so good it can literally fill whatever niche you want. BASEtar is King of (Poke)Monsters for a reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 08:30:38 No.47646621 Report

Quoted By: >>47646672

How is he even ou with body press on everything bulky?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 08:39:57 No.47646672 Report

Quoted By: >>47647099

>>47646621

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 08:49:44 No.47646713 Report

Quoted By: >>47647162 >>47647547

>>47645892
>600

You mean 650 BST. Ironically, his peak was when he only had 600.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 08:54:24 No.47646733 Report

Quoted By: >>47646988 >>47647157 >>47652750

>>47645755
TTar is maybe one of three mons whos base form was more viable than their megas

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 09:49:40 No.47646988 Report

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>>47646733
Yeah. For TTar, its mega form is like an ancient power +1 boost + 5 more turns of sand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 10:21:47 No.47647099 Report

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>>47646596
>>47646672
Cringe. Both of you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 10:36:55 No.47647157 Report

Quoted By: >>47647166 >>47647188 >>47647216

>>47646733
Garchomp, TTar and Audino?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 10:38:16 No.47647162 Report

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>>47646713
>You mean 650 BST

No he means 600 BST

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 10:39:29 No.47647166 Report

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>>47647157
Audino was the worst mega.
But maybe just Audino was better? (Kinda sad)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 10:42:17 No.47647179 Report

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>>47645737
Stupidity. He's the worst Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 10:44:36 No.47647188 Report

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>>47647157
I was thinking TTar, chomp and latias

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 10:46:49 No.47647192 Report

Quoted By: >>47647200

Tyranitar losing pursuit fucked it hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 10:48:15 No.47647197 Report

Quoted By: >>47647204

What is it about based tard that makes soi bois and trannies seethe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 10:48:59 No.47647200 Report

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>>47647192
Not enough. Should get rid of Sand Stream too (And replace it by Battle Armor)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 10:50:01 No.47647204 Report

Quoted By: >>47647379 >>47648214

>>47647197
Cringey retards like you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 10:54:50 No.47647216 Report

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>>47647157
Garchomp only had a Mega Evolution despite not needing one just for the sake of marketing.

Do you want:

A Garchomp with a Choice Band, Choice Scarf, or a Yache Berry?

OR:

Mega Garchomp being OHKO by an Ice, Dragon, or Fairy-type Pokémon that's faster than it via Choice Scarf or its speed stat if high enough?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 10:56:07 No.47647221 Report

Quoted By: >>47647233 >>47647283

>>47646596
>stat spread so good
it's "slow frail mixed attacker" stat spread

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 10:59:13 No.47647233 Report

Quoted By: >>47647259 >>47647303 >>47647323

>>47647221
>100/110/100 spread
>effectively 100/110/150 most of the time
>frail

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 11:02:00 No.47647251 Report

Quoted By: >>47647299

>>47645753
But Tyranitar literally isn't a Johtomon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 11:03:02 No.47647259 Report

Quoted By: >>47647560

>>47647233
Yeah. That's pretty frail nowadays

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 11:06:42 No.47647283 Report

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>>47647221
Better than the Morimoto stats that most Rock-type Pokémon have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 11:08:55 No.47647299 Report

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>>47647251
Mount Silver is considered to be in Johto, it's just only accessible from Kanto because Idiocy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 11:10:01 No.47647303 Report

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>>47647233
learn to read

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 11:13:27 No.47647323 Report

Quoted By: >>47647338 >>47647437

>>47647233
+2 252 SpA Volcarona Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 216+ SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 300-354 (74.2 - 87.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 SpA Tapu Lele Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 216+ SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 260-308 (64.3 - 76.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 216+ SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 132-156 (32.6 - 38.6%) -- 2.6% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 SpA Tornadus Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 216+ SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 252-300 (62.3 - 74.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

TTar is not "frail", not even by modern standard, it's twice as bulky as pex on the special side

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 11:16:46 No.47647338 Report

Quoted By: >>47647370

>>47647323
But what if no Sand Stream?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 11:24:48 No.47647370 Report

Quoted By: >>47647377 >>47647431 >>47653573

>>47647338
252 SpA Choice Specs Charizard Overheat vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Tyranitar: 140-165 (34.6 - 40.8%) -- 56.4% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 SpA Choice Specs Charizard Overheat vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Toxapex: 103-122 (33.8 - 40.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Then it's "only" as resistant as one toxapex

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 11:27:26 No.47647377 Report

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>>47647370
Meh. Tyranitar's still Shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 11:27:48 No.47647379 Report

Quoted By: >>47647400

>>47647204
Seething from the sand stream. Cant handle the sand? Get out of the desert.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 11:34:22 No.47647400 Report

Quoted By: >>47647416

>>47647379
Nah. Sand's so Cool, Tyranitar don't deserve it. Makes no sense on him.
Hippowdon is the REAL Sand Stream Pokémon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 11:38:25 No.47647416 Report

Quoted By: >>47647565

>>47647400
>the REAL Sand Stream Pokémon
>doesn't even get the SpDef buff from Sandstorm
cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 11:43:26 No.47647431 Report

Quoted By: >>47647437

>>47647370
>fire-type move against pokémon that resist fire
Use a move that does neutral or super effective damage in your damage calculator next time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 11:45:31 No.47647437 Report

Quoted By: >>47647565

>>47647431
I chose fire because both TTar and pex resist it, it's supposed to make it easy to compare one to the other, if you want SE moves cals, there's
>>47647323

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 11:53:32 No.47647467 Report

Quoted By: >>47647558 >>47653105

Why is it that a ton of Gen 2 mons have remained exactly where they are for a long time almost being oblivious to any power creep or change of game mechanics?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 12:14:33 No.47647547 Report

Quoted By: >>47647570

>>47646713
What?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 12:16:24 No.47647558 Report

Quoted By: >>47647571 >>47653105 >>47653149

>>47647467
>Scizor, Espeon, Tyranitar, Blissey, the 3 legendary beasts, Lugia, Ho-Oh...
Holy shit, you're right. Each and every single one of them are solid ingame and on the fanmade tier.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 12:16:28 No.47647560 Report

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>>47647259
Bruh

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 12:17:53 No.47647565 Report

Quoted By: >>47653665

>>47647437
You're just make think Tyranitar is good when it Sucks, that's it.

>>47647416
Hippowdon has Sand in it's design. Tyranitar is just mediocre Kaiju,cno relation to Sand. That's what i say.
And having a buff with Sand doesn't make you the best. Also Cringe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 12:18:48 No.47647570 Report

Quoted By: >>47647576 >>47647577 >>47648042

>>47647547
Sand Stream made Tyranitar's SpDef 50% higher, it's like having 150 base special defence.
The peak being 600 is referring to its gen 2 days where abilities haven't existed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 12:19:07 No.47647571 Report

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>>47647558
>Remove Forcanitar
Now it's perfect

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 12:20:23 No.47647576 Report

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>>47647570
The 600 BST peak is in gen3, baka

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 12:20:29 No.47647577 Report

Quoted By: >>47647831

>>47647570
Still 600 at it's base. And even then, it's too much. 200 would be better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 13:32:41 No.47647831 Report

Quoted By: >>47647841

>>47647577
This. Tyranitar should have base 10 stats because i dont like him

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 13:34:25 No.47647841 Report

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>>47647831
Good idea XD

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 13:36:11 No.47647847 Report

Quoted By: >>47647857 >>47647863

>>47645743
Sand is the only weather that doesn't need a team around it, ttar will always be good, sometimes used more, sometimes less, it is a great mon that can dominate entire teams in the right hands since gen2 until this day. Even drops to UU it will get banned asap because it's just too good for UU, so it will always be OU or BL at worst, which doesn't matter since it makes it technically an OU and Smogon tier-lists are always flawed as fuck anyway.

- a dude who plays competitive since GS-simulator, (which 98% of this boar don't even know because they are too young), and always reaches top15 to top3 without trying too hard. Inb4 proof. I'M antonym, so a proof is pointless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 13:36:53 No.47647852 Report

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>>47645737
Because contrary to popular belief, weaknesses are not everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 13:37:36 No.47647857 Report

Quoted By:

>>47647847
>Even if it*

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 13:38:54 No.47647863 Report

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>>47647847
>antonym
So you're the opposite of what you said?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 13:58:39 No.47647914 Report

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>>47645743
>Sand is the only weather that needs a team around it, ttar will always be bad, sometimes used more, sometimes less, it is a terrible mon that can never dominate entire teams even in the right hands since gen2 until this day. Even drops to UU it will drop lower asap because it's just too trash for UU, so it will always be NU or RU at worst, which doesn't matter since it makes it technically an RU and Smogon tier-lists are always flawed as fuck anyway.

>- a dude who plays competitive since GS-simulator, (which 98% of this boar don't even know because they are too young), and always reaches top15 to top3 without trying too hard. Inb4 proof. I'M synonym, so a proof is pointless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 14:19:53 No.47648014 Report

Quoted By: >>47648107 >>47648120

What if Sandstorm provided an effect similar to Solid Rock and Filter, but only for Rock-type Pokémon? The effect wouldn't be able to be stacked with those two abilities, but it would still be busted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 14:24:49 No.47648042 Report

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>>47647570
it's actually like having base 159 to base 174, depending on investment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 14:30:08 No.47648067 Report

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>>47645737
I honestly don't get it this dude gets slapped by my ghost types the exact type of shit he is supposed to counter. So fucking slow as well he is guaranteed to eat shit first every single time. You gotta be lucky and get off some dragon dances to get a good sweep from him and his weankess are so common as coverage moves in the meta you just gotta hope who ever is hitting you has a shit stat or at least no stab that hits you for x4

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 14:36:37 No.47648107 Report

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>>47648014
Carracosta and Rhyperior did not like that.
These two should havethe cumulate of both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 14:39:08 No.47648120 Report

Quoted By: >>47649677

>>47648014
it already gives them a 50% spdef boost, do you REALLY need more?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 14:44:51 No.47648157 Report

Quoted By:

>>47645737
Because it also resists the other half of the type chart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 14:54:15 No.47648214 Report

Quoted By:

>>47647204
found the soi boi tranny

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 18:12:44 No.47649597 Report

Quoted By: >>47649794 >>47651757 >>47651767 >>47652709

opinion on the current OU survey, and King's Rock? Should it be removed from OU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 18:20:58 No.47649677 Report

Quoted By: >>47649727 >>47653162

>>47648120
>implying that a 50% boost to special defense will prevent a OHKO coming from an Earth Power, Flash Cannon, Hydro Pump, or a focus blast that somehow didn't miss

It's not like a Rock-type Pokémon not being OHKO by a Brick Break will ruin the VGC or anything when shit like Zacian exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 18:26:01 No.47649727 Report

Quoted By: >>47649774 >>47649776 >>47649864

>>47649677
>252 SpA Heatran Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 216+ SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 98-116 (24.2 - 28.7%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
>252 SpA Heatran Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 216+ SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 132-156 (32.6 - 38.6%) -- 1.7% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
>252 SpA Tapu Fini Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 216+ SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 144-170 (35.6 - 42%) -- 87.8% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
>252 SpA Tornadus-Therian Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 216+ SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 232-276 (57.4 - 68.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 18:31:43 No.47649774 Report

Quoted By: >>47649814 >>47649838

>>47649727
And now do the same calculations with any other slow and defensive Rock-type Pokémon, then you'd understand why Rock should be buffed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 18:31:48 No.47649776 Report

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>>47649727
Also this isn't even factoring in things like ttar running a more offensive spread with choice scarf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 18:34:29 No.47649794 Report

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>>47649597
no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 18:37:11 No.47649814 Report

Quoted By: >>47649838 >>47649864

>>47649774
Gigalith
>252 SpA Heatran Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Gigalith in Sand: 110-130 (29.4 - 34.7%) -- 99.9% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
>252 SpA Heatran Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Gigalith in Sand: 146-174 (39 - 46.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
>252 SpA Tapu Fini Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Gigalith in Sand: 162-192 (43.3 - 51.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
>252 SpA Tornadus-Therian Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Gigalith in Sand: 130-154 (34.7 - 41.1%) -- 65.9% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Rhyperior
>252 SpA Heatran Earth Power vs. 244 HP / 188 SpD Solid Rock Rhyperior in Sand: 120-142 (27.7 - 32.8%) -- 78.9% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
>252 SpA Heatran Flash Cannon vs. 244 HP / 188 SpD Solid Rock Rhyperior in Sand: 162-190 (37.5 - 43.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
>252 SpA Tapu Fini Hydro Pump vs. 244 HP / 188 SpD Solid Rock Rhyperior in Sand: 354-423 (81.9 - 97.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
>252 SpA Tornadus-Therian Focus Blast vs. 244 HP / 188 SpD Solid Rock Rhyperior in Sand: 144-169 (33.3 - 39.1%) -- 9.1% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 18:39:52 No.47649838 Report

Quoted By: >>47649872

>>47649774
>>47649814
But I do agree that Rock needs a bit of a defensive buff. Maybe make it resist Ice and Electric? BoltBeam might nt be a big thing anymore but resisting the combo would still be a nice buff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 18:44:03 No.47649864 Report

Quoted By: >>47652771 >>47652793

>>47649727
>>47649814
Posting damage calculations of Rock-type in a Sandstorm with maxed out HP and Special Defense doesn't magically remove its weaknesses or add any meta-relevant resistances.

>Rhyperior
Now try that without Solid Rock and what I mentioned above.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 18:44:18 No.47649872 Report

Quoted By: >>47649891

>>47649838
the last thing ice needs is an offensive nerf, thats the only thing that type has going for it. remove the ground weakness from rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 18:47:15 No.47649891 Report

Quoted By:

>>47649872
>the last thing ice needs is an offensive nerf, thats the only thing that type has going for it
Why not give Ice some resistances as well? That would offset Rock resisting Ice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 19:34:31 No.47650234 Report

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>>47645737
ttar ability used to be insane but now sand is not even an archetype anymore
regardless ttar has insane bulk especially on the special side thanks to being a rock type and sand boosting sp.def of rock type's by 1.5x
it also has an extremely wide movepool
it would be even better had it not lost pursuit because it would be able to pressure dragapult which is a top 3 OU pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 22:28:33 No.47651757 Report

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>>47649597
King's Rock shouldn't be removed from OU, and it's very clear that one of the OU councilors got butthurt over losing to some shitter using King's Rock Cloyster. It's too luck based to be broken and Pokemon that do frequently use King's Rock, like the aforementioned Cloyster, can easily be shut down by many threats and is most likely better off with Focus Sash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 22:29:55 No.47651767 Report

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Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 00:34:48 No.47652709 Report

Quoted By: >>47652939

>>47649597
>wahwahwahwah I can't beat cloyster!!1
>finchinator lost to it and that is NOT OK!
King's Rock should not be banned.
Hell, basically everything in this gen uses knock off.
Either way, fuck finchinator and every other tournament faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 00:39:30 No.47652750 Report

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>>47646733
Mega-Chomp is a sidegrade that gives Garchomp a different role without outclassing the older form (turning it from a fast sweeper/attacker to a raw-power wallbreaker)
Mega-Tyranitar is equally as good as normal T-Tar, and both are really fucking good
And Mega Latias these days is just better than default Latias

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 00:42:33 No.47652771 Report

Quoted By: >>47652820

>>47649864
>Ok just remove Rhyperior's better ability that everyone always uses it with and it'll be worse!
>Wow Rhyperior without Solid Rock gets killed faster?! Who'd have guessed?
You can't actually be this fucking stupid
I refuse to believe this is anything but poor man's bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 00:45:30 No.47652793 Report

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>>47649864
those are their smoggie ev spreads dumb dumb
in fact he's being generous because Rhyperoir usually runs more Sp.Def and some even run Careful these days because people are indeed smart enough to take advantage of Sandstorm

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 00:49:50 No.47652820 Report

Quoted By: >>47653005

>>47652771
Then, why not remove Sand Stream of Tyranitar?
And even without Solid Rock, Rhyperior's the tankier of the two Physically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 01:08:47 No.47652939 Report

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>>47652709
Can't stand this guy's voice. Where is that accent coming from?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 01:18:00 No.47653005 Report

Quoted By: >>47653032

>>47652820
Sand Stream lets Tyranitar support his teammates, deal chip damage to opponents (breaking sashes, negating leftovers and possibly even killing opponents who are low enough), and provides him with a 50% buff to his sp.def that makes him durably enough to eat a fucking Focus Blast if you're using the tank utility sets.

Why would you remove it? The ability was literally designed around him, as back in Gen 3 he was the only thing that had it, and it shows because of how well it supports him. There's no reason to remove it other than to fuck him over. I don't even like Tyranitar design wise honestly but he's not broken so there's no reason to """fix""" him. The man should have Pursuit back though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 01:19:50 No.47653020 Report

Quoted By: >>47653578

>>47645737
>fanfic meta
>>47645761
Based. Stats, movepool and abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 01:21:37 No.47653032 Report

Quoted By: >>47653429

>>47653005
>he's not broken so there's no reason to """fix"""
Well having seven weaknesses isn't exactly ideal you know. Tyranitar would be much better if Rock didn't have all the weaknesses it does as of right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 01:36:19 No.47653105 Report

Quoted By:

>>47647558
>>47647467
the johtomons that were given good stats were given good stats in exactly the right places, and then were given good abilities to keep them relevant through the power creep

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 01:45:44 No.47653149 Report

Quoted By: >>47653160

>>47647558
the 10 or so good Johtomons sapped the BST from the rest of the dex

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 01:48:17 No.47653160 Report

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>>47653149
And any possible form legitimate usability from Meganium, apparently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 01:48:24 No.47653162 Report

Quoted By: >>47653236

>>47649677
>>>implying that a 50% boost to special defense will prevent a OHKO coming from an Earth Power, Flash Cannon, Hydro Pump, or a focus blast that somehow didn't miss
It does. Play the game you fucktard.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 02:05:30 No.47653236 Report

Quoted By: >>47653271 >>47653280 >>47653460

>>47653162
Do you want the same calculations but with Stonjourner on the receiving end?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 02:10:21 No.47653271 Report

Quoted By: >>47653320

>>47653236
>tyrantrum
great job retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 02:11:56 No.47653280 Report

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>>47653236
>56% chance to OHKO
and without sand it would be a 100% chance to OHKO. Thanks for taking the time to disprove your own point.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 02:20:16 No.47653320 Report

Quoted By: >>47653456 >>47653471

>>47653271
And? I wanted to show everyone that a 50% boost to Special Defense doesn't always protect against OHKOs if the Pokémon being attack has a low enough Special Defense and doesn't have Solid Rock or a damage-reducing berry.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 02:28:25 No.47653373 Report

Quoted By: >>47653445

>itt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 02:37:37 No.47653429 Report

Quoted By:

>>47653032
Anon the point of the OP was that Tyranitar is extremely fucking good even in spite of his seven weaknesses, and even after losing Pursuit he's still a beast (and if you play NDOU he's just gotten better).

Tyranitar needs no buffs in regards to his type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 02:39:30 No.47653445 Report

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>>47653373
>heavy-duty boots and utility umbrella
Having two items at the same time is hax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 02:40:53 No.47653456 Report

Quoted By:

>>47653320
>I wanted to show everyone that a 50% boost to Special Defense doesn't always protect against OHKOs
Who the fuck was arguing that it -always- prevents OHKOs? A 50% boost is still a 50% boost you retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 02:41:32 No.47653460 Report

Quoted By: >>47653481

>>47653236
Discounting the fact you unintentionally murdered your own point by proving that Sand does, in fact, give Tyrantrum a chance to survive (and Tyrantrum isn't Tyranitar, who lives outright) it's worth pointing out Tyrantrum can just fucking OHKO Mega-Camerupt with Head Smash before it can even move because it's so fucking slow.

>252+ Atk Choice Band Tyrantrum Head Smash vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Camerupt-Mega: 381-448 (111 - 130.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 02:42:51 No.47653471 Report

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>>47653320
>using shitmon to try and prove a point
use geodude next that's sure to convince them you're right anon!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 02:44:55 No.47653481 Report

Quoted By:

>>47653460
>>252+ Atk Choice Band Tyrantrum Head Smash vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Camerupt-Mega: 381-448 (111 - 130.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
AKA why resistances are important, or alternatively Reflect/Light Screen/Aurora Veil/Intimidate/anything else to reduce attack or damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 03:01:30 No.47653573 Report

Quoted By: >>47653645

>>47647370
>pikachu uses brick break
>This kills the tard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 03:02:59 No.47653578 Report

Quoted By: >>47653673

>>47653020
Took you a while! Usually your virgin pasty ass is one of the first to post

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 03:04:23 No.47653586 Report

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>>47645737
That is what Team Coverage/Team Building is for retard. T-tar sets up and has various sets for support. Also T-tar gets massive coverage thanks to Slowbro/Slowking.

If Pursuit was in this gen, you can bet T-tar would be wrecking havoc even more.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 03:21:33 No.47653645 Report

Quoted By: >>47653717

>>47653573
What the fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 03:24:36 No.47653665 Report

Quoted By:

>>47647565
>Hippowdon has Sand in it's design
Nope. It has it on it's sprite, dumb retard.
>mediocre Kaiju
Shit tasted zoomer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 03:25:38 No.47653673 Report

Quoted By: >>47653679

>>47653578
Take your meds, schizo. You will never be official.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 03:26:41 No.47653679 Report

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>>47653673
it is official though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 03:29:01 No.47653689 Report

Quoted By: >>47653693 >>47653959

funnily enough i just caught a larvitar

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 03:29:40 No.47653693 Report

Quoted By: >>47653700

>>47653689
Congratulations

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 03:29:56 No.47653696 Report

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>>47645737
>Why the hell isn’t the Tyranatar line completely Dark/Ground or Dark/Rock typed?
They introduced a new type and designed an imposing looking lizard Pokémon based off of God-zilla or some other big fuck-you monster and didn’t make it Dark Type!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 03:30:06 No.47653699 Report

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I want to fuck her rocky cunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 03:30:06 No.47653700 Report

Quoted By:

>>47653693
thanks. I got it in a Poke Ball, right as it was about to succumb to Poison. I was relieved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 03:31:44 No.47653717 Report

Quoted By:

>>47653645
>0hp Tyranitar
you fucking deserve it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 04:11:02 No.47653959 Report

Quoted By:

>>47653689
Based. Larvitar are cute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 06:34:58 No.47654610 Report

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https://pokepast.es/d9c87bcccd5c3914
Ok retards, I stole this team from a wcop replay and I have no idea what corviknight and lando EV spread to use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 07:00:08 No.47654727 Report

Quoted By:

>>47645737
I just made this thread to bump a thread I hate off the board. It does really well, so that’s a bonus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 07:01:18 No.47654733 Report

Quoted By:

>>47645737
It isn't, it's usage is inflated by YouTubers are their retarded subs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 13:28:40 No.47656300 Report

Quoted By:

>>47645737
Too Based

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