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Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 13:33:24 No.47720423 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>47720637 >>47720922 >>47723272 >>47723302 >>47723364 >>47723395 >>47723557

>Kris being replaced
>The Legends of Thunder special not being marketed at all so one saw it
>Typhlosion and Meganium being worthless for 20+ years, not learning moves that every other Pokémon in their archetype can learn
>No Hidden abilities in gen 5
>Skipped for Megas in gen 6
>The Galar starters stealing the Johto's pure typing but being more versatile and useful in every way.
>Johto being targeted the worst in Dexit
>The only Johto starter that managed to avoid the curse of being completely useless (Feraligatr) won’t be in gen 8 at all
>Johto starters having almost no merch or Pokémon cards
>99% of Johto Master pairs are Horrible/ Useless
>The “legends” figure
>The only Johto mons currently in Unite are fodder that exist to be beaten up

Was Johto-schizo right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 14:12:11 No.47720637 Report

Quoted By: >>47720913 >>47723343

>>47720423
Johto-schizo was another part of the discord raid. Even if not directly, he was at least influenced by it. Johto fans are just delusional enough to fall for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 14:48:01 No.47720890 Report

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Theres a reason why digital clocks display 2 as a revered 5 after all...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 14:52:01 No.47720913 Report

Quoted By: >>47721042 >>47721077

>>47720637
I thought the discord raiders hated Johto and Unova though.

Anonymogus

Anonymogus Tue 27 Jul 2021 14:53:16 No.47720922 Report

Quoted By: >>47721565

>>47720423
>The “legends” figure
spoonfeed this one to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 15:11:12 No.47721042 Report

Quoted By: >>47721077 >>47721096

>>47720913
One of them admitted to creating the fake graphs Johto fans use all of the time because he wanted to counter what he thinks is a conspiracy against Johto

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 15:15:01 No.47721077 Report

Quoted By: >>47721091 >>47721354

>>47720913
>>47721042
I found the screenshots where he talked about it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 15:16:10 No.47721091 Report

Quoted By: >>47723320

>>47721077
And this one where he says someone is spamming Johto hate. If he wasn't the creator of tue conspiracy theory, he has definitely reposted/supported it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 15:16:41 No.47721096 Report

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>>47721042
> counter what he thinks is a conspiracy against Johto
Him calling it a "conspiracy" was retarded but there was a trend of shitposting against Johto around the time the graph was boosted.

33 Tue 27 Jul 2021 15:53:24 No.47721354 Report

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>>47721077
I didn't make them you fucking spastic. I just searched "Pokémon game ratings" on Google Images and picked the first three that were biased towards Johto. You can even reverse image search them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 16:22:16 No.47721565 Report

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>>47720922
There was some figure that had the other Legends Starters but replaced Cyndaquil with Scorbunny. Which vprettty much proves that the Johto hate isn't from Game Freak, its from TPC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 19:38:01 No.47723236 Report

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He was right

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 19:41:04 No.47723272 Report

Quoted By: >>47724036

>>47720423
Cyndaquil's line had Burn Up almost exclusively to itself in Gen 7, which is pretty neat. Only Moltres had access to that move otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 19:45:04 No.47723302 Report

Quoted By: >>47724036

>>47720423
Yes but that doesn’t make johto good. TPC can’t market fucking noctowl and jumploom. This is the equivalent of a obese man saying that he’s incel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 19:46:36 No.47723320 Report

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>>47721091
>Battle Tree trainers use legendaries, like basically every other Battle Tower clone
>Battle Agency is shit, even though he didn't call out the only problem with it
Wow, that dude is actually retarded.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 19:48:50 No.47723343 Report

Quoted By: >>47723403 >>47725297

>>47720637
First part of the post is correct.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 19:50:59 No.47723364 Report

Quoted By: >>47724036

>>47720423
>Johto starters having almost no merch

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 19:54:44 No.47723395 Report

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>>47720423
Don't forget Entei given to Evelyn instead of / before a Johto character

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 19:55:27 No.47723403 Report

Quoted By: >>47723588

>>47723343
I called it out in the first thread for not accounting either for the postgame (which when it comes to Johto is a legitimate question) or for random trainers. Like, when I did my analysis of Gen 1, even I thought to pick apart the random trainers, as that's what you'll be dealing with most. You don't understand how bad Gen 1's mid-lategame is if you don't do that part of the analysis, that's like 6 routes full of trainers with extremely similar teams that also repeat Pokemon on those teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 20:15:47 No.47723557 Report

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>>47720423
Blissey is confirmed for unite and it's a hard counter to the best (or second best) pokemon currently in the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 20:20:24 No.47723588 Report

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>>47723403
Not counting post-game was the right move. You shouldn't gave to sit through an entire 8 gyms and league to get to the good part, and even if the post-game was the focus you could easily do what other games did and have the main game scaled correctly while still leaving plenty of room for Kanto from level 60 to 80 before Red

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 21:09:47 No.47724036 Report

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>>47723302
>TPC can’t market fucking noctowl and jumploom.
They made a Bidoof day, literally can be marketable. If the Johto region and Pokemon are truly so awful, that's only because Game Freak refuses to revisit them.

>This is the equivalent of a obese man saying that he’s incel.
Ir Johto is the obese man, this would be like banning obese people from gyms and not allowing them to jog.

>>47723364
The key word was "almost"

>>47723272
>Cyndaquil's line had Burn Up almost exclusively to itself in Gen 7
What's funny THIS could have been a good thing and as actually a nice nod to Cyndaquil line having retractable flames. However they had to suck off Kanto and give it to Arcanine which can actually take advantage of being typeless because it has recovery and utilities move

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 23:52:04 No.47725297 Report

Quoted By: >>47725979

>>47723343
The first graph doesn'tt take in account relative difficulty. If the "last" boss is only level 50, then having earlier bosses be at a lower lower level makes sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 01:16:01 No.47725979 Report

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>>47725297
Your cope doesn't take into account literally everything other than the gyms almost completely flatlining after Morty, making "relative difficulty" just mean the game is easier when fighting npcs and harder when it finally remembers to add levels to Claire 3 gyms later.
That also doesn't take into account boosts limited by level such as evolution. You're stuck with lower stages of pokemon for longer in Johto because the game levels slower, and those pokemon will also have more limited movesets than their evolutions would, weakening them further compared to the gyms with mons like the Poliwrath, Steelix, and Kingdra faced in the later half of the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 01:21:32 No.47726025 Report

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just fucking nuzlocke it if you don't think it's difficult enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 02:45:27 No.47726613 Report

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Say it with me:
Johto killed pokemania.

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