>>47726249>literally nobody remarkable pushing a HDB ban >HDB ban was literally brought up months ago because Cinderace was busted and happened to use it>HDB ban would hurt Stall/Defensive teams more than any other archetype in general>>47726315King's Rock is a legitimately useless item from the competitive point of view and also pretty much the reason which Cloyster just wins matches it shouldn't because it got a little lucky, also it's still not even banned from SS OU
Also this Smogon adoring Stall meme is such bs, like holy shit only awful /vp/ level players keep spouting this shit. Stall is at its lowest point this gen and it's especially bad rn, still a legitimate playstyle but easily the worst and least common type of teams you'll ever face, it's only good against actual scrubs that run meme mons/gimmicks because they have no hopes of breaking it with bs strategies and their usual lack of skill/game planning
>>47726450actual retard