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Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 21:05:08 No.47821323 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>47822096 >>47822698 >>47824922 >>47827327

These two types have the whiniest victim-complex faggot fanbase. Kill yourself if you're an icefag or a bugfag.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 21:06:20 No.47821335 Report

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Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 21:07:52 No.47821349 Report

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JUST

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Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 21:21:37 No.47821456 Report

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>tfw ghostfag
life good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 21:23:26 No.47821474 Report

Quoted By: >>47821730 >>47824279 >>47824918

Who the fuck whines about bug type? Sure on its own it blows but bug is a fantastic secondary typing. Now ice deserves to bitch, horrible type. Rock type fans should honestly bitch just as much

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Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 21:31:26 No.47821539 Report

Quoted By: >>47828120

>tfw steelfag

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Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 21:33:57 No.47821560 Report

Quoted By: >>47828120

>tfw waterfag

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Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 21:50:20 No.47821719 Report

Quoted By: >>47828120

>tfw groundfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 21:50:34 No.47821721 Report

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Waterchads, get in here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 21:51:23 No.47821730 Report

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>>47821474
my cock is smaller than yours

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 22:39:23 No.47822096 Report

Quoted By: >>47822334 >>47822363

>>47821323
are you serious? You sound like a dumb dyke, get off my board
t.bugman

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Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 23:11:27 No.47822334 Report

Quoted By: >>47822461

>>47822096
Seething bugfag
Stop whining about fairy types resisting your ass. Be grateful GF allowed you to hit rock and dragon types for normal damage.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 23:16:01 No.47822363 Report

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>>47822096
Based Bugbro

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Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 23:29:01 No.47822461 Report

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>>47822334
NTA but get the fuck over your. Bugs literally built this franchise, Without them Fairies wouldn't even exist to fuck up the game balance even worse than Dragons did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 23:54:17 No.47822698 Report

Quoted By: >>47824323 >>47828175

>>47821323
Maybe if gen1. Bugs after that started being pretty good
>gen1 sucked
>gen2 had fury cutter as well as heracross/scisor
>gen3 ninjask
>gen4 oh god op is right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 04:15:42 No.47824168 Report

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Is this what we're doing now?
We're gonna have typewars along with our genwars?

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Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 04:20:26 No.47824195 Report

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>tfw fightingfag

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Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 04:33:48 No.47824279 Report

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>>47821474
>Rock type fans should honestly bitch just as much
Rock good.
Rock never lose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 04:39:58 No.47824323 Report

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>>47822698
Gen 4 brought Vesp who was decent and maintained Scizor/Forretress, local gods of bug-types.
Then Gen 5 brought us Volcarona who has never stopped being OU since introduction and would probably be Ubers if the sneaky pebbles didn't exist.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 05:20:21 No.47824490 Report

Quoted By: >>47824632 >>47824685 >>47824705 >>47827420

Bug>Grass>Ice

And even that's only because Grass has more resistances, offensively it is the worst typing. No other typing gets cucked as hard by resists when combined with one coverage move, Grass type's least unresisted STAB combo (Grass+Rock) can't even hit steel types neutrally.

Grass is by far the worst offensive typing and has more weaknesses than both bug and ice. The two candidates for worst typing in the games are grass/bug and grass/ice. bug/ice is way better on account of not having 6-7 weaknesses.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 06:00:21 No.47824632 Report

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>>47824490
yeah I dunno what OP is smoking. Bug isn't great but it's not terrible and I barely hear complaints about it.
Ice gets a lot of complaints but deservedly so, it's awful.
Grass for some reason flies under the radar, despite having 5 weaknesses, one of them to Ice, which every water type on the history of the planet gets Ice Beam. Grass can't even counter the type it's supposed to dick on.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 06:13:08 No.47824685 Report

Quoted By: >>47824715 >>47824756

>>47824490
grass is not that bad offensively, it hits waters and grounds for super effective damage, 2 of some of the best types around. honestly grass just gets a bad rap all around.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 06:18:34 No.47824705 Report

Quoted By: >>47824751

>>47824490
>>47824632
Grass might get the short shift on the type chart, but people don't complain about Grass because its a good type, for reasons other than the chart.
If you're Grass-type, you have multiple recovery options guaranteed. multiple status options guaranteed, and can benefit from both Rain and Sun weathers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 06:20:40 No.47824715 Report

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>>47824685
>Water
the vast, vast majority of Grasses do not have the stats to OHKO bulky waters and Grass type moves have pretty terrible distribution outside of the typing. They then get countered with Ice Beam, which every Water-type and their mother gets. This combined with a lot of waters getting typings that make them neutral to Grass (Toxapex being the big example) only further worsens the position.
>Ground
Same problem with Ground hybrids getting neutral typing's (Lando, Chomp, Nidos). Has to compete against Water to deal with Grounds and Water wins out most of the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 06:22:26 No.47824726 Report

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I'll always be a bug boy. When gen 5 hit and GF actually didn't go out of their way to make shitty ones and made really good bugs like Durant and Volcarona.
>hah check it out we made a 4x rock weak bug type but this one's actually good and you'll want it in your team, also it learns hurricane and gigadrain so you won't worry too much about rain

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Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 06:29:21 No.47824751 Report

Quoted By: >>47828212

>>47824705
>you have multiple recovery options guaranteed
the only good Grass-types that abuse recovery are Ferrothorn (who is part-steel, steel covering most of Grass's weaknesses fairly well) and Tangrowth, and Tangrowth only counts due to having the most busted ability in the game. (Regenerator)
>multiple status options guaranteed
The only good grass-type that abuses status moves is Amoongus (who also abuses Regenerator). Most other grass-types aren't that good with status due to their being far, far, better and a lot more options for Toxic and Thunder Wave users. Their best status is sleep, of which Sleep Powder is trash, and Spore is usable by one singular pokemon in Gen 8 (technically two, but nobody fucking uses Shiinotic.)
>Sun
this used to be a point in Grass's favor but since the removal of megas, dynamax, z-moves etc. Sun has been trash and barely usable.
>Rain
There is zero good place for grass-types on a Rain team usually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 06:30:15 No.47824756 Report

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>>47824685
Grass/Ghost is resisted by 57 pokemon
Grass/Rock is resisted by 51 pokemon
Bug/Ghost is resisted by 38 pokemon
Psychic/Ground is resisted by 28 pokemon
Steel/Ghost is resisted by 20 pokemon
Poison/Ghost is resisted by 13 pokemon
Electric/Ice is resisted by 9 pokemon
Water/Flying is resisted by 9 pokemon
Fire/Dragon is resisted by 8 pokemon
Flying/Ground is resisted by 8 pokemon
Ice/Ground is resisted by 8 pokemon
Dark/Fairy is resisted by 6 pokemon
Rock/Ground is resisted by 4 pokemon
Normal/Ghost is resisted by 4 pokemon
Fairy/Ghost is resisted by 2 pokemon
Fighting/Ghost is resisted by 0 pokemon

No other typing is so thoroughly checkmated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 07:11:44 No.47824918 Report

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>>47821474
>but bug is a fantastic secondary typing
It's hardly fantastic, but it does actually have some perks, unlike Ice which is universally a negative in type combos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 07:12:18 No.47824922 Report

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>>47821323
Found the Grassfag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 16:35:28 No.47827327 Report

Quoted By: >>47827336

>>47821323
That would be Ghost. Bugfags and Icefags actually have reasons to be whiny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 16:36:43 No.47827336 Report

Quoted By: >>47827350

>>47827327
Found the Bug/Icefag.
Ghostfags never complain because their type is actually good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 16:39:05 No.47827350 Report

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>>47827336
I'm actually a Steelchad, but nice try.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 16:43:56 No.47827384 Report

Quoted By: >>47827410

>bug
Its not even a bad type why is OP being a faggot over bug of all things
>ice
Okay yes I seethe about ice being fragile yet good offensively but most ice type Pokémon have average or shit speed excluding only fucking 2 Pokémon. You can't stop me.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 16:44:38 No.47827393 Report

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>>47827350
>steelfag talking shit about ghostfags because his type no longer resists it
checks out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 16:47:10 No.47827407 Report

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>>47827393
Oh no, whatever will I do about my *checks notes* 11 resists, instead of 12?! Truly a tragedy. How will us Steelfags recover from having the most resistances, even after the nerf?!

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Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 16:47:28 No.47827410 Report

Quoted By: >>47827452 >>47827488

>>47827384
>Its not even a bad type
bug is the worst type in the game and anyone who actually plays the game call tell you this.

shit max move, horrible offensively, no utility, and weak to very common types defensively. The only good things about it are STAB U-Turn and fighting/ground resist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 16:48:28 No.47827420 Report

Quoted By: >>47828106

>>47824490
Grass is one of the most well balanced types in the game. There's more to types than just their matchup chart. Grass is a utility type.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 16:52:05 No.47827452 Report

Quoted By: >>47827491 >>47827499 >>47828106

>>47827410
>thinking I care what an eceleb thinks
This doesn't help your point.
>horrible offensively
stopped reading there, bug's offensive abilities are what prevent it from being a god awful type and there's actually a decent handful of bug type Pokémon who are above average or very fast making them excel as sweepers. With bug only being resisted by ghost, fire and fairy there is literally no excuse for you to say bug is the worst offensively. I'm not even a comp or bugfag but I can actually see merit in using them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 16:56:26 No.47827488 Report

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>>47827410
Bug defenders are the ones in denial. Bug is 100% entitled to a victim complex. It's awful. It's absolutely worse than Ice. It was nerfed by Fairy because it dared to have a fucking widespread utility move with U-Turn with many of its best users not even getting STAB from it. If you had a Bug type G-Darm people would actually be able to manage that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 16:56:53 No.47827491 Report

Quoted By: >>47827530

>>47827452
>>thinking I care what an eceleb thinks
yeah, why would we care about what someone who actually plays the game thinks? We should listen to /vp/ shitters who only play singleplayer instead.

>With bug only being resisted by ghost, fire and fairy
And flying? And steel? And fighting? And poison?
Are you ok anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 16:57:58 No.47827499 Report

Quoted By: >>47827546

>>47827452
>eceleb
I don't know whether you're pretending to be stupid or just trying your hardest to be an edgy contrarian but trust me, your strategy isn't even half as effective as you think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 17:01:47 No.47827530 Report

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>>47827491
>yeah, why would we care about what someone who actually plays the game thinks? We should listen to /vp/ shitters who only play singleplayer instead.
My point wasn't that I listen to retards here, my point was that ecelebs don't play the games anymore as much as the shitposters here and competitive tier lists are made to determine how someone/something would matchup against others. Mind you Pokémon can learn more than their own type.
>And flying? And steel? And fighting? And poison?
Are you ok anon?
I honestly forgot to mention those and I'm not ok; I like ice type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 17:03:30 No.47827538 Report

Quoted By: >>47827544

>>47827407
bitch about it apparently
never seen a steelfag so whiny lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 17:04:20 No.47827544 Report

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>>47827538
What the fuck am I whining about exactly? Retarded Ghostschizo.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 17:04:38 No.47827546 Report

Quoted By: >>47827601

>>47827499
I'm not? There's plenty of people that say that bug-type is not that bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 17:11:29 No.47827601 Report

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>>47827546
Wolfey Glick is arguably one of the top 5 competitive players in the world. Dude is a VGC winner, 3x US national champion and 6x regional champion. I don't know about you but I trust this guy's analysis on the type chart considering he probably has more experience about successful competitive battling than any other person on this planet. Sure, you can find "plenty of people" aka a bunch of literal whos online saying that Bug-type is the GOAT because they really like Scizor and Volcarona but those people probably have fuck-all competitive experience. Bug is objectively a bad typing. That doesn't mean you can't like it but that doesn't make it better. You can try to find experienced players saying that Bug is a great typing but you won't find any because they all know that's not the case and there's probably a good reason for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 18:19:01 No.47828106 Report

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>>47827452
>Best 2-move coverage combo is Bug/Ghost
>Bug/Ghost is resisted by 38 pokemon
>Second worst offensive typing behind Grass

>>47827420
Celesteela gets leech seed, Synthesis is worse than Recover/Softboiled/Roost, and the best user of sleep powder are the compoundeyes bugs that use it to set up quiver dance. Patterns should not be used to judge unrelated factors, typings are, by definition, just the matchup chart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 18:20:18 No.47828120 Report

Quoted By: >>47828341

>>47821539
>>47821560
>>47821719
This thread has given me a suddenly weird kink where want a superior Type specialist to dominate and instant loss me for choosing shitty types like bug

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 18:27:42 No.47828175 Report

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>>47822698
X-scissor and Signal Beam changed everything. And the the Leech Life buff happened, and bugs are great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 18:31:57 No.47828212 Report

Quoted By: >>47828305

>>47824751
Judging pokemon only by Smogon/Meta shit is stupid as all fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 18:40:55 No.47828305 Report

Quoted By: >>47828336

>>47828212
The only other standard is VGC, in which only Rillaboom and sometimes Amoongus are usable, both for reasons almost entirely unrelated to their typing.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 18:44:11 No.47828336 Report

Quoted By: >>47828379 >>47828388

>>47828305
KNEEL

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Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 18:44:43 No.47828341 Report

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>>47828120
i have a kink where a steelfag and a bugfag have a loving consensual relationship and make scizor

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Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 18:47:50 No.47828379 Report

Quoted By: >>47828393

>>47828336
>meme squirrel

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Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 18:48:40 No.47828388 Report

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>>47828336
>A pokemon in a different typing, in a completely different meta, in a completely different generation, somehow disproves my point about the current state of VGC Grass types.
Unless some retard wins Worlds with Shiinotic or some other Grass shitmon my point stands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 18:49:09 No.47828393 Report

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>>47828379
How many VGC's have you topped?

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